Another irresponsible dog owner...

JFTD-WS said:
Indeed - one would think this would be the only conceivably mentality, but it doesn't seem to be. I get dogs straying in with my horses, in my field, from the bridlepath, with their owners standing wetly on the track, not even bothering to call them because they know they don't have recall :mad:
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That would make me cross!
 
SadKen said:
That's horrible OP.

I would have taken his money, reported him to NFU and the police so there is a record of the incident and told him I'd shoot it next time (and so would any other farmer). If he doesn't want a dead dog he needs to put it on a lead.

Oddly enough I have had this discussion with OH who is usually quite sensible. He said he would be very unhappy with a farmer who shot his dog. I said fine keep them on a lead and they won't be shot. And showed him graphic photos of ewes who had been savaged. He agrees with me now. Social media has a part to play along with the police to reiterate the right to shoot dogs harassing livestock.
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The police here usually do have a media campaign about sheep-worrying around this time of year. It can be a real problem, as there are a lot of sheep here, many of them on the moors where farmers can't see them or the dogs chasing them, unfortunately.
 
Well, it's good to know most people are sensible about dogs! Fwiw, I didn't take his money - though now I wish I had. Unlike my excellent equine vet, the small animal practices round here are a bit pants. Last time I had a chicken pts they charged me a tenner...today it was £44! £19 for a consultation, when I'd already told them she needed to be euthanised. Daft thing is we eat the surplus cockerels on a fairly regular basis - I have no idea why I ran to the vet!

Anyway he received a rather angry tirade and is in no doubt as to what will happen to that dog if it is seen around stock off the lead so hopefully he will take more care in future. What a day.
 
Nudibranch said:
Well, it's good to know most people are sensible about dogs! Fwiw, I didn't take his money - though now I wish I had. Unlike my excellent equine vet, the small animal practices round here are a bit pants. Last time I had a chicken pts they charged me a tenner...today it was £44! £19 for a consultation, when I'd already told them she needed to be euthanised. Daft thing is we eat the surplus cockerels on a fairly regular basis - I have no idea why I ran to the vet!

Anyway he received a rather angry tirade and is in no doubt as to what will happen to that dog if it is seen around stock off the lead so hopefully he will take more care in future. What a day.
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He should certainly pay your bill, do you know where he’s from ?
 
Not a clue sadly...I was too busy cradling my chewed up chicken and berating his stupidity to get details. This is Hadrian's Wall country so there are loads of walkers, although he sounded local.
 
When I was a teenager my mother bred fancy bantams. She had quite a few trios in arks around the back garden when a white boxer came a calling and killed a few birds. Dad and I went to visit the only person in the village with a white boxer who claimed that it was not his dog to blame.

The next day a white boxer came a visiting and was duly shot and dumped outside his house. The owner came shouting that we had shot his dog so Dads reply was it couldn't have been his dog, as his was not the one killing the chickens.

We lived at the side of the vicarage and the vicar took up the case and made the man buy my mother some new bantams at a very extortionate price. The mans next dog however was not put out to roam 8am to 6pm every workday.
 
This makes me angry too. My Spaniel was perfectly trustworthy around anything, I’d probably bet my last poind on her not chasing anything and she was perfect to recal, but i would still have put her on her lead in that situation ‘just in case’.
 
JFTD-WS said:
Indeed - one would think this would be the only conceivably mentality, but it doesn't seem to be. I get dogs straying in with my horses, in my field, from the bridlepath, with their owners standing wetly on the track, not even bothering to call them because they know they don't have recall :mad:
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May I suggest a Shetland? That sorted out my loose dog problem (I’m next to a footpath). He will chase anything out of the field, including dogs near his own size!
 
MotherOfChickens said:
or a Fell, or an Exmoor or a lusitano lol! all of mine chase loose dogs.
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I used to have a TBxWelsh who chased loose dogs out of the field, she was actually frightened of dogs having been bitten by a GSD as a youngster. The Westphalian would chase stray sheep out of the field, although she was fine with our own sheep.

It sounds as if telling Defra that these sheep are in danger of ingesting bute is the way forward, horses have to be taken out of the food chain, so I'm sure sheep shouldn't have access.
 
Nudibranch said:
This morning some walkers passed with two dogs; one collie on a lead and one spaniel off lead. Our lane leads onto a footpath and though fields full of grazing, pregnant sheep. As soon as I realised they were not putting the spaniel on the lead I decided to go over and ask them to, as obviously we are a month from lambing and the spaniel was running manically in circles. No sooner had I taken a step than the spaniel set off at a gallop into my neighbour's field - where my chickens were ranging. The damned thing would not recall and in a split second had grabbed my elderly barnevelder and was shaking it like a rat. Long story short but the barny was taken to the vet and pts as her injuries were obviously going to be lethal: lots of degloved parts and internal bleeding. What I can't understand is why the owner thought it was fine to have the dog off lead like that. I had a bit of a go to be honest, and did end up feeling slightly sorry for him as he did apologise and offer to pay for the hen. But he thought that "open countryside" was suitable for letting dogs run about and couldn't grasp the fact that it would be shot on sight if it were seen amongst sheep.

I know well trained, working spaniels are great but this is the third time I've encountered a spaniel with an owner who can't control it and on two of those occasions one of my animals has been hurt or killed (one attacked my puppy, leaving him with a lifelong fear of other dogs).
Rant over...I just wish people could manage their dogs properly.
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I would be horrified if my Cocker did that, he actually brought mer a live chicken once when sent for a phessie - christ knows what a chicken was doing in a hedge in the middle of nowwhere!! I hate dick heads who let their dogs use the countryside as a free for all behave how you like, spanners are fantastic dogs when trained, and I feel sorry for those that aren't, they are often badly behaved because of boredom and frustration, I'm sure some are bought as lifestyle accessories ....Had a total plonker the other day COMPLAINING that the farmer had the audacity to put sheep in the field where he normally lets his dog have a run, fancy that - a farmer putting sheep on his own land!!! Anyway at least silly plonker has now put it on a lead as he was told it would be shot if it worried sheep again...I did say that it should be on a short lead around the sheep and to trake it to the local dog run to let it off as he even admitted it had no recall......prat.

Luckily I can train my spanner among livestock, but when we are crossing a sheep field he's on a short slip lead at heel....
 
I’m so sorry about your chuck!

Dogs loose amongst livestock is a pain in the arse.

When it comes to horses I used to have one who would Chase, catch, pick up and throw any dog that dared go into HIS field.
It was a job and a half to get him used to my dogs so that they could come with me when poo picking. I did eventually get him to the point where if my dogs gave him a wide berth then he wouldnt chase them but any unfamiliar dag seemed to be fair game.

Unfamiliar dogs on leads were stalked until they left the field, he wouldnt have chased them on lead but he would have if they were let loose.

He was great for stopping random walkers from using our field (it was not a foot path, nor was there one anywhere close)

I did have the next door farmer once ask me if he could borrow my dog chasing horse and pop him in with the sheep for a while, to stop a walker problem he had, but unfortunately we found he chased and threw sheep as well.
 
Pinkvboots said:
And Arabs mine will chase strange loose dogs if they are in there field, they are fine with my own dog being in the field though.
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I couldn't trust either of my lusos, the first one was made like it due to other people's dogs over the years-he had zero tolerance of them by the end. The second would chase anything-dogs, ponies, ducks and sheep-he loved cows though, almost unnaturally so :eek: The natives are generally well-disposed towards them unless the dogs run around-I don't let my dogs in with my horses ever-just not worth the risk either way.
 
MotherOfChickens said:
I couldn't trust either of my lusos, the first one was made like it due to other people's dogs over the years-he had zero tolerance of them by the end. The second would chase anything-dogs, ponies, ducks and sheep-he loved cows though, almost unnaturally so :eek: The natives are generally well-disposed towards them unless the dogs run around-I don't let my dogs in with my horses ever-just not worth the risk either way.
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One of mine when he was a stallion was turned out alone and quite often a young calf would get into his field from next door, he quite happily grazed alongside her and I think he quite liked the company, he won't tolerate noisy boisterous dogs if they are around him but quiet his fine, he will actually allow my dog to eat from his feed bowl while he is eating, the other one doesn't like dogs at all his not keen on my dog even near his stable I wouldn't trust him he has been known to kick and lash out at strange dogs.

I don't really let my dog in the field that often and only if she is with me, it's not worth risking it you just never know.
 
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