Another opinions on this horse post! Sorry :)

nikicb said:
"Exciting project for experienced person."

Also, this website carries the same phone number as the ad:

http://www.allunsutherland.co.uk/#/contact/4539626240

The ad says it is a private sale, but the website looks like a dealer or certainly a pro.
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This would worry me. If the horse is an exciting prospect for an experienced person and the seller IS the person in the link then why arent they treating the horse as a prospect themselves and making good money on it? Something i would definitely ask if you decide to go there and find a professional yard

Personally there are too many question marks over the hind legs to me - even i being very inexperienced with conformation would be worried
 
Doesn't look like a pure bred to me, is standing poorly in the pic but you'd need to see him in the flesh to tell if it was a problem. What people are seeing as a "healed suture" on the right gaskin is a fairly common form of dapple marking in grey horses. That aside, I'd run a mile, screaming loudly: too cheap; unridden for 6 months FOR A REASON? probably crazy as a loon.

Ah, have just seen that he's Andalusian/TB, two hot breeds that often do not gell well. If a dealer can't ride him, what makes you think you'd enjoy doing so?
 
Feel a bit sad for the poor guy, there most likely is something going on with him which means he will most likely end up a horse who gets passed back and forth.

I quite like him but I agree that there's a reason he's not been ridden and not a novice ride.
 
Zero00000 said:
That is fair enough, I say go to see the horse, as I personally find it hard to 'judge' a horse by a photo, even a video, Id rather go and see the horse in action, if seller has nothing to hide then they will be happy to show horse in every aspect asked for, good luck OP in your horse search.
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I think the seller has everything to hide!
 
I would still go and view with eyes wide open!
The assumption here is the so call dealer is a crook , although looking at his Facebook he doesn't seem deal selling only 2 or so horses a year, and non lately, now he may well be dodgy or he may not.
The photo to sell the horse now is the same one used when it was 4k which means then but not necessarily now there was nothing obvious too wrong it was then stated to be going well and have a nice jump.
It may just be a case that the horse did not sell, not much has been done since and it has just sat in a field and they want shot before winter so it's sold from the field at a bargain price.
Without going to see you will never know!
 
EffyCorsten said:
He looks like a nicely put together horse but as already said if the add screams quirks I would be weary of him as they aren't giving anything away about him, his cheap and young tells me there are big issues. If you are experienced with difficult potentially dangerous horses then go take a look otherwise I'd look for something else.
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Which bit of him is nicely put together, it's a moose.
 
I dont quite like the way he is standing with his hind quarters underneath him like that, but that could be the poor angle of the photo and them not getting him to stand correctly. To be he looks slightly hollowed in his back, but again probably down to how he is standing. Can't read the description so cant comment on that. But would be interesting to see if they have any other photos of him.
 
MrsD123 said:
^^^this
If OP can't tell that, she sure don't need to go
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We all like different types and stamps of horses. Judging conformation has to be learnt and seeing a diamond in the rough is very much an art. There is a filly for sale on the right hand side of the forum pages at the moment, chestnut yearling with interesting conformation.
 
No helpful comments on conformation really as can never describe it very well. But looking at him, he doesn't look "right". His back legs sem ver far under him, and he seems to be lacking a bit of muscle on his haunches, especially in relation to the muscle on his "thighs" The wording in the ad seems odd as well. I'd call and have a chat to find out more before then having a think about whether I really want to go look. I'd also be getting a vetting as a hose doesn't drop from £4000 to £1000 with wording like that for no reason surely?
 
AdorableAlice said:
We all like different types and stamps of horses. Judging conformation has to be learnt and seeing a diamond in the rough is very much an art. There is a filly for sale on the right hand side of the forum pages at the moment, chestnut yearling with interesting conformation.
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I think that one will come right .
 
AdorableAlice said:
We all like different types and stamps of horses. Judging conformation has to be learnt and seeing a diamond in the rough is very much an art. There is a filly for sale on the right hand side of the forum pages at the moment, chestnut yearling with interesting conformation.
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:eek3: that is quite an angle on the fetlock, doubt that will improve much!
 
AdorableAlice said:
There is a filly for sale on the right hand side of the forum pages at the moment, chestnut yearling with interesting conformation.
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hmmm, interesting is right.

wrt the andy cross, its not difficult to blow their brains not always easy to get them back. saying that, for someone willing to think outside the box a bit (e.g. don't bit it to the eyeballs and feed it alfalfa) and who likes them sharp he might be alright. the original price was not realistic whatsoever.
 
Wow, all the conformation Nazis are out again! I would agree he doesn't have the prettiest back end- bit of a 'showjumper's rump' and it is a bit weak, probably due to 6 months off work?? But I would say it's a bad picture rather than a bad horse. The price also is a wee bit suspicious and I don't like it when dealers try to make out they're private sellers.
 
lannerch said:
I would still go and view with eyes wide open!
The assumption here is the so call dealer is a crook , although looking at his Facebook he doesn't seem deal selling only 2 or so horses a year, and non lately, now he may well be dodgy or he may not.
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I don't think there's anything dodgy. Just a tricky horse to sell by the looks of things.
 
Considering the picture is the same one used as when he was advertised back in march, I would wonder what he looks like now having not been in work for a few months.

The fact that he had a week hind end even when he was in work, along with the wording of the ad would ring alarm bells for me.

However, I would still go and have a look with eyes wide open.
 
CobsGalore said:
Considering the picture is the same one used as when he was advertised back in march, I would wonder what he looks like now having not been in work for a few months.

The fact that he had a week hind end even when he was in work, along with the wording of the ad would ring alarm bells for me.

However, I would still go and have a look with eyes wide open.
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Agree with this
 
Looks like a ok horse to me, doesn't need perfect confo to be good at a job, and good for experienced person probably just means its green and sharp. Not a crime being either of those if you are experienced IMHO!

No idea how people tell so much from one pic?!
 
No idea how people tell so much from one pic?!
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I think the fact that it's not sold from a pro riders yard, and has been reduced by £3k says an awful lot. That coupled with not great conformation and being a tricky ride doesn't really 'sell' it.
 
I can see the issues with the photo of the horse and reading between the lines, OP if you are not an experienced rider then forget it. I have to say though I'd be tempted to go and have a look and a ride for that money. I've bought some horses after looking at ghastly pictures of them, then I turn up and yep they may have some hiccups but I think I can see out the other side and have taken a gamble on horses like this before, all turned out great. TBH I'm sure I'm not alone in seeing photos of forum users horses and I see the 'faults' but say nothing as the posters think they are perfect and that's all that matters. The only thing which really makes me stop and think (for your benefit OP) is that the guy advertising the horse is an agent, fairly typical for agents to market horses over here (I agent for a lot of sellers) but not so much in the UK is it?
 
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