Another post on my difficult livery..just found out she got thrown out

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of her last yard for not looking after her pony.

What to do now?

Please help.

ets: Have just spoken to yard and apparently it got so bad they were going to call the RSPCA.
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So, give her a buzz tonight. Tell her you'd like to see her tomorrow evening when she comes up.

Tell her specifically what you expect from her. And that you must be told if she is going away - so that you can check the horse for her.

It's irrelevant at this stage what has happened in the past on previous yards - you need to tell her what will happen at your yard. You can't boot her off for something she did elsewhere......
 
Has she got a livery contract? If not, time for one - with a clause stating the horse must be checked at least once a day, and if you suspect it hasn't been done, you will do it and charge for it. If she has, time for an amendment with the above in it.

If she doesn't adhere to the written contract, you terminate it.
 
Don't your liveries have to sign some kind of contract to state that the horses are insured and vaccinated etc, if so can't you get her to sign something to say that her horse has to be checked daily otherwise you will charge for it etc....this may then act as a gentle reminder to care for her horse accordingly without you acutally having to bring up the past etc
 
Exactly as Crazymare says - you need to be really firm with her about the terms of the contract. I would rather see this happen than see her thrown out so that she can go to another yard with a YO who is not as concerned about her horse's welfare as you are!
 
Having read previous posts i would give her a 'verbal warning' arrange to speak to her take along a copy of her livery contract ( if you dont have them now would probably be a good time to introduce one) explain to her exactly what you expect of her in terms of looking after the pony ( remember to be objective ) explain you are not happy she is going away and not asking anyone to check pony, agree either she needs to abide by livery agreement ( same as everyone else on the yard) or look else where.
Edited to add - i wouldnt mention anything about knowing she thrown off her previous yard as it is in the past i would just speak about the current situation and how things have got to change for the future.
 
Have just read your previous post. I had a similar problem with a livery at my yard about this time last year. I would say it's probably only going to get worse as winter approaches. How old is the girl? Does she still live at home? If so you could maybe try speaking to her parents. I tried this route with mine and it turned out that her parents thought she was going to the yard twice a day as that's what she told them!
 
Firstly i think you are far far to kind and considerate and because of this you are you are being taken advantage of. I wish i could be on your yard !

You could call a general yard gathering and use a Christmas meal as an excuse to start discussing things. You could then mention about the yard owner being held responsible for abuse on yards and use this as a means of bringing up what you expect of you clients and will be dissapointed if your easy going rules are not adheared too.

I would then post the rules on a notice board - get everyone to sign to say they have read and agree to the rules and then if anyone does not adhear to the rules - you give them a week to leave.
 
Re Livery contracts. We just drew up something for people to sign, but I dont think it is enforceable actually if it came down to it ? Wouldnt be a legal document would it ?
 
I don't think they are, mores the pity. In my last yard the owner had a problem with a DIYer who basically never fed her horse - it took months to resolve it, YO ended up feeding the animal from her own pocket as she couldn't bear to watch it starve and the girl ended up doing a moonlight flit without paying her bill!
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. She did get liveries to sign contracts but its impossible to enforce. I think when problems do arise it becomes a civil matter (don't quote me on that). Apparently, she had form too - thought she was clever getting other people to pay for and feed her horse while she came up when she felt like it and paid DIY rates. Total scumbag.
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Provided the contract is drawn up and then checked out by an Equine Solicitor it becomes a legal document which can be enforced. You need to issue two copies to each owner for them and yourself to sign and date. You keep one copy and they keep the other copy.
 
Its never pleasant giving people notice, especially when in this business you trust their integrity to honour their contract and not take advantage of your good nature. IMO, its better to have 3 empty stables than one bad payer or neglectful owner.

Also be aware that with the introduction of the new Welfare Act, you as a YO are equally responsible for the welfare of that horse, therefore if a neglect case is proven, you must ask yourself if the hassle was worth it?

Save yourself any more hassle and give notice.
 
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