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im having trouble with my geldings frog, he had quite nasty thrush a month or so ago and it cleared well. but one of his hind frogs is very soft and is skanky in the middle but i cant get it clean as i cant get to it. i have washed it and sprayed it but i can get right to where it looks nasty. the farrier has recently trimmed it away but it hasnt taken long to go rank again. the farrier is out thursday so il get him to look at it again.
here is the soft manky frog (its sore if you prod it to much)
from the top
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his other hind
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Your horse still appears to have thrush in that frog. You need to get what ever you are using to treat the thrush into the cleft. You may need to use a hoof pick to open it up slightly to get treatment in there (be careful not to hurt the horse, just enough to widen the gap)

Once the thrush clears the split should mend from the top of the heels down. (from the inside out)
 
hi, this happened to my horse last winter and we couldn't get the thrush cleared up but then the farrier recommended some green stuff with tea tree in it. it took a month and we kept his feet dry and on shavings. it does appear that as his feet are small it can be a problem, so i'm hoping it doesn't happen again this winter.
 
Similar comments from me too.

I'd say there's still ongoing thrush and would try and pare out that frog a bit more aggressively - I'm sure your farrier can remove the excess tissue that's not helping and widen the lateral sulci (grooves) a bit more.

The central sulcus is narrow and deep - you can see it disappearing off into the distance where the coronet is. I tend to advise the cleaning thoroughly with very dilute hibi solution or even salt water is fine, using a small syringe tip or catheter to poke into the groove to flush out thoroughly, DRY with ktichen towel to get rid of any moisture and then use hydrogen peroxide to flush. It will all fizz up but that's ok.

Hope that helps.
Imogen:)
 
its dried up out this way now and we have new winter paddocks which means no more wet muddy slush thank god so hopefully it will clear! i thought it had cleared before but ovb i didnt get all of it. the other foot cleared well just this one.
 
ImogenBurrows said:
Similar comments from me too.

I'd say there's still ongoing thrush and would try and pare out that frog a bit more aggressively - I'm sure your farrier can remove the excess tissue that's not helping and widen the lateral sulci (grooves) a bit more.

The central sulcus is narrow and deep - you can see it disappearing off into the distance where the coronet is. I tend to advise the cleaning thoroughly with very dilute hibi solution or even salt water is fine, using a small syringe tip or catheter to poke into the groove to flush out thoroughly, DRY with ktichen towel to get rid of any moisture and then use hydrogen peroxide to flush. It will all fizz up but that's ok.

Hope that helps.
Imogen:)
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ta very much, i have all these things in the tack room so il try that 2moro. il leave a message for my farrier to have a look thursday as hes only going down to do the fronts. my vet and farrier are meeting eachother down their to re access his lameness and shoeing but im working and we couldnt arange a time we were all free so im leaving them to it :-S hopefully hel be a good boy!!
 
if you've got a good syringe then 'force' the water into the area and hopefully it will flush out the nasty stuff and muck, that's what i've been doing with my gelding and it means it is nice and clean without pulling the frog about too much.
 
Those are quite contracted heels - maybe the farrier can set it out a bit wider at the heel -but to be honest the only way to really decontract is to get the shoes off and get ground contact with the structures at the back of the foot.

For the central suclcus - what I found worked well wiht my gelding, was to get some gauze, some hibiscrub and use it like dental floss in the sulcus. That works really well and is often a deeply pleasurable experience for them - they make lots of faces! You need to be careful though - if it is sore they may object - but I did this every day for a week and it sorted it out.

Just as a thought provoking moment - have a look at this - this is the hoof and the shoe that came off it 6 months before right where it would have been placed. 'nuff said I think!

I would still class this as contracted - but a lot better than it was

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What worked for my gelding is washing and syringing with Hibiscrub (it's the treatment of choice for patients that screen MRSA+).

Then smother some cotton swabs/small pieces of material with Sudocrem and pack them into the central sulcus with a hoofpick.

Change once a day.
 
Yeah i would vouch for sudocrem too, my gelding had a very deep central sulcus, i cleaned it originally with hydrogen peroxide, then every day wiped it through and put a good blob of sudocrem in.

What is really totally amazing too, is that he is barefoot and the contracted heel has now completely gone, the natural hoof has allowed it to widen, and the creme just has got rid of the bugs and allowed it to heal.
 
china said:
ta very much, i have all these things in the tack room so il try that 2moro. il leave a message for my farrier to have a look thursday as hes only going down to do the fronts. my vet and farrier are meeting eachother down their to re access his lameness and shoeing but im working and we couldnt arange a time we were all free so im leaving them to it :-S hopefully hel be a good boy!!
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I have posted recently re my horses frog/central sulcus infection. All I can say is that it made him very lame and if your hose also has deep infection then it could be expected that it will make him lame as well. Once the infection was cleared (hydrogen peroxide squirted into every crack and crevice I could find with a syringe) then it still took several weeks for the cracks to heal out and for the horse to become sound.

Hope all goes well for you.
 
its much better now, i used a syringe and hibiscub to flush the dirt out of the cracks, dried it with cotten wool and sprayed it with purple hoof master spray, he also stayed on gravel paddocks out of the mud. i used salt water aswell. it was just getting the cracks clean and the syringe worked really well!
 
soak a piece of cotton wool in stockholm tar and push it into the cleft of the frog ,paint the frog with stockholm tar,you will clear the problem up completely.
 
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