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Hi all,

I have a caverchon puppy called Cariad that my daughter and I both love dearly. She is so good and now toilet trained, very sociable and is a delight to own. I am now considering getting another one from the same breeder in August. I am worried though she may get jealous or feel left out. Is there anything that I can do to help Cariad accept her? Thanks.
 
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Have you considered that it may be better to get two additional puppies? That way if you have to take one out, for what ever reason, then there won't be one left on its own, to pine and be lonely. I think that yet another one/two, would be an excellent idea! Don't listen to this lot, they're all idiots, as you've obviously worked out for yourself! :)

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
Have you considered that it may be better to get two additional puppies? That way if you have to take one out, for what ever reason, then there won't be one left on its own, to pine and be lonely. I think that yet another one/two, would be an excellent idea! Don't listen to this lot, they're all idiots, as you've obviously worked out for yourself! :)

Alec.
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lol no I think another one will be plenty thanks!
 
I am still trying to get my head around people intentionally breeding x breeds, giving them a fancy name and selling them for exorbitant prices when there are so many unwanted pups looking for homes, as for the OP getting another one or two, why are you asking on here when you know what the reaction will be.
 
It's all about the money be positive and then people like the OP can have the same as what their friend has :D and then come back for another :D =£££
 
ester said:
It's all about the money be positive and then people like the OP can have the same as what their friend has :D and then come back for another :D =£££
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No not about the money and Cariad has a first class home I just was considering getting another one she loves other dogs and I have the room so why not? alternatively I would like at some point to breed from her next year so exciting times!
 
hihosilver said:
No not about the money and Cariad has a first class home I just was considering getting another one she loves other dogs and I have the room so why not? alternatively I would like at some point to breed from her next year so exciting times!
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I was saying it was about money for breeders not you.
 
ester said:
I was saying it was about money for breeders not you.[/QUOT

Well yes I am sure a lot of breeders of designer dogs do it for the money but I don't think that breeders of pedigree dogs do it for peanuts either! so what is the difference? as long as breeder looks after puppies I cant see the problem! I am still in touch with Cariads and we even went back for a visit!
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Well the difference is that good pedigree breeders are keen to improve their breed, - hence the health testing which I think we ascertained the parents of yours had not been subject to.

I think when Viszlak did the breakdown of the cost of her litter breeding and raising most puppies properly is not a money making enterprise!
 
https://www.facebook.com/GraziaUK?fref=ts



I know the OP is a troll but unfortunately people like her are very real, read the above link, Grazia had asked for people to write in with their extra money making schemes and some woman wrote in that she bred her pet bitch and ragdoll cat for extra income, no mention of health testing either. Well as you can imagine the world of rescue went mad at this as rescues are choc a block with dogs and not enough good homes for them and people like Puppylove/Cariad trying to educate people about the reality of puppy farms and backyard breeders. Grazia printed a half hearted disclaimer which was instantly rejected with the result their fb page has been inundated with people telling them they have dealt a terrible blow to rescues and can be seen as promoting backyard breeders.
 
hihosilver said:
No not about the money and Cariad has a first class home I just was considering getting another one she loves other dogs and I have the room so why not? alternatively I would like at some point to breed from her next year so exciting times!
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Well make sure your next pup is a male and you will have a ready made father for the pups. Ideally perhaps a half sibling to Cariad to really get you troll points!
 
hihosilver said:
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Yes, and as you say 'Exciting'! :):)

Have you considered what (sorry 'who') you'll put your little darling to, yet? If you're quick, you may be able to find from the breeder of your wee pooch, who has the dog pups (her siblings). One of those would be an ideal mating, I'd say. Mind, you could always look outside the box as it were, and use say a Dalmatian, now that would be serious hybrid-vigour.

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
Yes, and as you say 'Exciting'! :):)

Have you considered what (sorry 'who') you'll put your little darling to, yet? If you're quick, you may be able to find from the breeder of your wee pooch, who has the dog pups (her siblings). One of those would be an ideal mating, I'd say. Mind, you could always look outside the box as it were, and use say a Dalmatian, now that would be serious hybrid-vigour.

Alec.
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Snicker!
 
I have an almost 2 year old male Hungarian Vizsla if you want to use him as your stud.
I've heard that cavvizslachons are the new black and will be the essential must have designer dog for next year!!! His stud fee is only £2k so you'd be quids in ;)
 
hihosilver said:
No not about the money and Cariad has a first class home I just was considering getting another one she loves other dogs and I have the room so why not? alternatively I would like at some point to breed from her next year so exciting times!
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You prove yourself an idiot time after time. No way should you be breeding before the dog is two.

No doubt you will carry out the extensive and extremely expensive requisite health tests requisite for both breeds and then use an equally stringently tested stud, having checked both sets of breeding co-efficient to ensure the most healthy offspring possible. Oh, duh, silly me, I thought I was talking to someone who actually gives a s h I t, not yet another byb who thinks having puppies will be cute, a good experience for your child and of course, will earn you loads of money. Silly me. :rolleyes3: Hope you've got a spare £3000 in case the dog needs a c-section.

https://positively.com/contributors/why-most-families-should-not-breed-dogs/
 
Taken from a breeding section elsewhere:

The main reason to breed a litter is if you are into showing and want to establish your own line. If you just want to have a puppy to keep your present bitch company why not just buy another puppy? The idea that it is good for a bitch to have a litter is just an old wife’s tale.

If you are really considering breeding from your favourite bitch here are a few of the hurdles which need to be overcome. First, is your bitch good enough to breed from; is she a good example of the breed and doesn’t have any obvious faults like a bad mouth? Next you have to decide on the stud dog. It is not a good idea to go to the dog down the road. One should choose a dog which complements the good points of your bitch and doesn’t have any of the faults. If you are really determined then consult the breeder of your bitch or go to a few Border Terrier shows. It may be that the stud dog you choose lives many miles away, which will involve a long journey. Do you know how to decide when the bitch is ready to mate? If not, this may involve a fruitless journey or several return journeys. Also is the owner of the stud dog willing to service your bitch? One should arrange this several months before hand. Border Terriers are not always easy to mate. Even a well tried stud dog may fail to mate, or be put off by an uncooperative bitch, particularly a maiden bitch. What if the bitch comes into season unexpectedly, upsetting holiday plans, or the puppies would be born at an inconvenient time. Remember from time of mating until the puppies go to their new homes is seventeen weeks.

Once you have mated your bitch, you have to look after her for the nine weeks of her pregnancy. It can be quite traumatic waiting to see whether she is pregnant. When the time comes for her to give birth, do you understand the signs of labour and what to expect? Border Terriers have a nasty habit of whelping in the middle of the night. If something goes wrong, or a caesarean operation is necessary, do you have a vet who you can trust? Once the puppies are born, you will have to keep an eye on both them and the bitch. Some bitches will reject their puppies; others may not produce enough milk. If the worst should happen and the bitch die in labour, and it does happen, then you will have several weeks of hand rearing the offspring. Weaning starts at about three weeks, at which time the puppies become very messy, and a litter of puppies between five weeks and eight weeks running around loose is a real handful. At eight weeks, you will have presumably chosen the puppy you are going to keep, you will then have to find homes for the remainder of the litter. Do you have prospective owners, and if so are they ready to take a puppy at this time? To keep several puppies over eight weeks old, because you haven’t found homes for them, is not recommended.

To all this one has to consider the costs involved, such as the stud fee, any veterinary fees, such as for an ultra scan, and particularly if a caesarean operation should prove necessary. Weaning food for the puppies followed by puppy food, extra food for the bitch, extra heating to keep the room warm enough. The list goes on and on.

Bitches do not always conceive, or may reabsorb the foetuses, so no puppies, or the puppies may not survive. And remember pregnancy and labour are not without dangers to the bitch.

If after all this you still decide to breed from your bitch, then read as much as you can beforehand. There is a good chapter in Anne Roslin -William’s book ‘The Border Terrier’, and there are many books just devoted to breeding
 
cinnamontoast said:
Taken from a breeding section elsewhere:

The main reason to breed a litter is if you are into showing and want to establish your own line. If you just want to have a puppy to keep your present bitch company why not just buy another puppy? The idea that it is good for a bitch to have a litter is just an old wife’s tale.

I will breed from her but obviously not now as realise she is too young. I am looking for another dog or puppy I have been to some rescue centres and the dogs all have been too big for me and my daughter. I have the room and it would be nice for Cariad to have a friend.

If you are really considering breeding from your favourite bitch here are a few of the hurdles which need to be overcome. First, is your bitch good enough to breed from; is she a good example of the breed and doesn’t have any obvious faults like a bad mouth? Next you have to decide on the stud dog. It is not a good idea to go to the dog down the road. One should choose a dog which complements the good points of your bitch and doesn’t have any of the faults. If you are really determined then consult the breeder of your bitch or go to a few Border Terrier shows. It may be that the stud dog you choose lives many miles away, which will involve a long journey. Do you know how to decide when the bitch is ready to mate? If not, this may involve a fruitless journey or several return journeys. Also is the owner of the stud dog willing to service your bitch? One should arrange this several months before hand. Border Terriers are not always easy to mate. Even a well tried stud dog may fail to mate, or be put off by an uncooperative bitch, particularly a maiden bitch. What if the bitch comes into season unexpectedly, upsetting holiday plans, or the puppies would be born at an inconvenient time. Remember from time of mating until the puppies go to their new homes is seventeen weeks.

Once you have mated your bitch, you have to look after her for the nine weeks of her pregnancy. It can be quite traumatic waiting to see whether she is pregnant. When the time comes for her to give birth, do you understand the signs of labour and what to expect? Border Terriers have a nasty habit of whelping in the middle of the night. If something goes wrong, or a caesarean operation is necessary, do you have a vet who you can trust? Once the puppies are born, you will have to keep an eye on both them and the bitch. Some bitches will reject their puppies; others may not produce enough milk. If the worst should happen and the bitch die in labour, and it does happen, then you will have several weeks of hand rearing the offspring. Weaning starts at about three weeks, at which time the puppies become very messy, and a litter of puppies between five weeks and eight weeks running around loose is a real handful. At eight weeks, you will have presumably chosen the puppy you are going to keep, you will then have to find homes for the remainder of the litter. Do you have prospective owners, and if so are they ready to take a puppy at this time? To keep several puppies over eight weeks old, because you haven’t found homes for them, is not recommended.

To all this one has to consider the costs involved, such as the stud fee, any veterinary fees, such as for an ultra scan, and particularly if a caesarean operation should prove necessary. Weaning food for the puppies followed by puppy food, extra food for the bitch, extra heating to keep the room warm enough. The list goes on and on.

Bitches do not always conceive, or may reabsorb the foetuses, so no puppies, or the puppies may not survive. And remember pregnancy and labour are not without dangers to the bitch.

If after all this you still decide to breed from your bitch, then read as much as you can beforehand. There is a good chapter in Anne Roslin -William’s book ‘The Border Terrier’, and there are many books just devoted to breeding
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I will breed from her but obviously not now as realise she is too young. I am looking for another dog or puppy I have been to some rescue centres and the dogs all have been too big for me and my daughter. I have the room and it would be nice for Cariad to have a friend.
 
cinnamontoast said:
You prove yourself an idiot time after time. No way should you be breeding before the dog is two.

No doubt you will carry out the extensive and extremely expensive requisite health tests requisite for both breeds and then use an equally stringently tested stud, having checked both sets of breeding co-efficient to ensure the most healthy offspring possible. Oh, duh, silly me, I thought I was talking to someone who actually gives a s h I t, not yet another byb who thinks having puppies will be cute, a good experience for your child and of course, will earn you loads of money. Silly me. :rolleyes3: Hope you've got a spare £3000 in case the dog needs a c-section.

https://positively.com/contributors/why-most-families-should-not-breed-dogs/
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yes I can afford a C-section! Money is not the issue.
 
Sadly money does not solve all issues......are you prepared for Cariad to die giving birth or shortly after? If you are, what about your daughter?? Are you prepared to hand rear the litter of six or more pups that will need feeding every hour/two hours, so that once you have finished with pup number six it is time to start with pup number one again? Are you prepared to stay with the litter 24/7 for the first 4-5 weeks....assuming Cariad survives of course....to ensure that she doesn't lie on top of any of them or kill them? (Pig rails can only do soooo much.) Oh, you work as a teacher don 't you if my memory serves me, so no you won't.

Good breeders do all of the above. They also health test....but hey! You won't know what to health test for as yours is a mongrel, not a pedigree with decades of documented results behind it.

Do you have people lined up wanting one of your pups? What if you end up with five surplus pups at 10 or 12 weeks of age....what will you do with them? Are you prepared to PTS? Or are you going to add to the burden of rescue just so that you can selfishly satisfy your own ends?

I despise people like you.
 
gunnergundog said:
Sadly money does not solve all issues......are you prepared for Cariad to die giving birth or shortly after? If you are, what about your daughter?? Are you prepared to hand rear the litter of six or more pups that will need feeding every hour/two hours, so that once you have finished with pup number six it is time to start with pup number one again? Are you prepared to stay with the litter 24/7 for the first 4-5 weeks....assuming Cariad survives of course....to ensure that she doesn't lie on top of any of them or kill them? (Pig rails can only do soooo much.) Oh, you work as a teacher don 't you if my memory serves me, so no you won't.

Good breeders do all of the above. They also health test....but hey! You won't know what to health test for as yours is a mongrel, not a pedigree with decades of documented results behind it.

Do you have people lined up wanting one of your pups? What if you end up with five surplus pups at 10 or 12 weeks of age....what will you do with them? Are you prepared to PTS? Or are you going to add to the burden of rescue just so that you can selfishly satisfy your own ends?

I despise people like you.
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goodness! who rattled your cage. Years ago I had 9 puppies for my GSD I certainly didn't encounter her dying! and all 9 puppies got super home. You are very dramatic. This is just a thought and yes I have seen a good pedigree Bichon dog that I like and he is in my village. I am looking to re home or get another dog/puppy for Cariad. I am a Teacher but in 2 years time will be cutting down hours so this is when I would plan for.
 
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