Another riggy gelding, anyone tried RIGCALM and also sarcoid advice please??!!

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Hi Folks.

I posted last month with regards to my gelding and his riggy behaviour. He's now 5, was cut at 3 at a (i know realise dodgy dealer who i bought him from afrter he was cut) and he did cover as a 2 and 3 year old - there are some foals out of him doing the rounds i have seen them :-)

So last month he was out with my mare (they've only been out together since January) and the YO had to seperate them as they were 'doing the deed'. They've been split up now and he is out with another gelding, however my mare is back in season, there's a field between them and he is frantic to get to her to the point that he looks like he is going to go over the fence. YO brought him in yesterday as she was worried he was going to hurt himself which i totally agree with, however it's a blooming shame that he got himself into such a state and i don't want him to go through this every few weeks for the next few months as it's not fair on him. As a 3 and 4 year old he was in a field next to mares and when i thought about it i remembered that the yard moved him field at this time of year as he was running up and down the fence. I spoke ot the vet last month and he said to wait and see how we got on, whether the behavior continued which it has. He suggested doing a blood test to check if he is a rig. I would like to know as I'm worried that i could take him to a show and he tried to jump on something! He's only ever been to a couple of shows before and i would always keep him away from other horses anyway...but you never know.

At any other time he is a lovely wee horse, can be a bit cheeky and determined to get his way but they all do that!

Anyway the point of this post was to find out whether anyone can suggest anything to help. I was looking at a calmer called Rigcalm by Global Herbs - has anyone tried it?

Whether he is a rig or not he is still exhibiting this behaviour, if he's not a rig would the Rigcalm make a difference?

On another note he has a sarcoid next to his sheth which has been treated with two doses of exxtera cream, it is a bit smaller but now red, sore and weeping. I've asked the vet just to freeze it off which he is reluctent to do he just wants to keep trying the cream. Can anyone tell me if they have any experience of both this cream and freezing sarcoids?

Thank you for reading this story!!
 
Get the rig test done if I were you. I had a gelding who was very fruity around the mares, had the rig test done and it was negative (his behaviour was due to not being kept around mares untill I had him). I fed him rig calm with great success, also found that he was much happier and less self destructive being in the field with the mares.
 
My gelding has started behaving riggy lately through stress and i hav just bought rigcalm after reading lots of good reviews so will be watching this thread. we only started using it tonight but its supposed to take effect in 2 days so i will let u know how i get on
 
I bought a tub of rigcalm for a mini stallion I had, but didn't seem to be able to sell, (I still had his daughters so he really needed to move to pastures new) I gave him one dose which he refused to eat no matter how I hid it. Fortunately I found a buyer for him in a stud home two days later.
Pm me if you want me to send you some to try.
 
Rigcalm Is amazing stuff. Herbs was a stallion till he was 7 and they forgot to tell him when they gelded him ;) I had him on it for a while and it calmed him right down :D
 
Rigcalm definitely does work! We have one gelding who was a rig for a long time & still behaves in a very riggy way, he's always been a bit difficult to control around mares but became completely obsessed with my new mare - couldn't eat, just spent all day pacing up and down the fence, running at it and trying to jump over, neighing at her, stressing himself out because he couldn't get to her, and attempting to get fruity THROUGH the fence (they were in adjacent fields) - we popped him onto rigcalm and within three days he actually seemed to turn gay, and started to follow all the boys around instead :o Wasn't the slightest bit interested in her anymore! He did also become very wimpy and couldn't stand up for himself so we lowered the dose a bit and he's levelled out again - always been a bit of a sensitive chap ;)
Definitely recommend it, brilliant stuff.
 
Becca-84 - I would also be interested to know if it is working for your horse

I am thinking about using it on my gelding who was cut late and has been showing stallion like behaviour.
 
I used it on mine, and it worked well.

He also had sarcoids. I used Global Herbs Sarc Ex and also their Immuplus. They went and he had five in total. Touch wood they haven't returned.

I personally think that some sarcoids come through a low immune system - especially if you haven't had him very long and he is at sixes and sevens.

I didn't want to use creams etc., on mine because they seemed quite invasive. Happily this worked for us
 
Ditto other posts. Blood test and rig calm. We had blood test on young gelding which came back negative but we used Rigcalm for 18 months and it definitely helped (it can be used on Rigs and geldings that just display 'riggy' behaviour). thankfully he is gradually growing out of his stallion-like behaviour now but still has his moments. You could also try pure agnes castus which works out much cheaper but would most likely give the same result - Dodson and Horrel sell it in big tubs.
 
My daughters new horse was obsessive about any mares around him, he wasn't interested in getting to them, more keeping other geldings away! He was aggressive to my cob and ended up injuring my boy by chasing him through a stock fence. We had the blood test done to see if he was a rig (came back negative) but also put him on Rigcalm as recommended by the vet. It worked wonders (and we noticed a difference within a week), he's not obsessed with the mares anymore and is calm and happy, to the extent that we have re-introduced my cob into the paddock with him and they are fine together. I would certainly recommend giving the Rigcalm a go.
 
My horse isn't being aggressive towards other geldings, but I am sure that it is riggy behaviour. I have never seen him mount the mare, but he hates being away from her and calls to her when he is not in the field (it doesnt help that she calls back!)

He can also be a handful on the ground; some weeks he is a real sweetie, and others he is pawing the ground, biting, kicking, and not wanting to be away from the her.
 
just wondering, my friend suggested that my 2yr old gelding might be a rig today. not something i have thought about, just thought he was trying to put me in my place, so to speak!

he doesn't get too bothered when i take my mare away but does have a little neigh for a minute!

but he is trying to be very dominant over her, which is unusual for her as she's usually head mare! he keeps trying to bite her, she threatened him with her back feet earlier, which stopped him!

but also my new shetland mare has come into season, and she's more interested in him than the ex stallion gelding shetland that she's out with. She escaped into the field with my gelding today and was "winking" at him! they were then running about and he was trying to bite her and i think if he wasn't 15'3 he'd have tried to mount her, but she's far too small!

he also has an obscession with me when i have something in my hands, or have the wheel barrow, he wont let me passed him, he tries to bite whatever it is that i have and also he gets his willy out when he's doing it! we've had a couple of occassions where i've told him to "do one" and hes reared up vertical at me, now i have realised that shoeing him away or ignoring him doesn't really work, so to get away i have to let him bite whatever it is and walk up to the other end of the field with him! or let him follow the wheel barrow!

i have a controller halter for him but that doesnt seem to help, he chucks his head in the air when i go to do it up and sometimes when i go to undo it he starts trying to rear up! so i've reverted back to a normal head collar and he seems much happier?!
 
Im on day 4 of the rigcalm... as said in previous posts my new gelding was a complete randy bag of hormones, constantly pestering mares and acting very stallion like. Ive been up this morn to feed and amazingly he's chilled out, grazing happily away from the mares... Even when I took my mare out he carried on... amazing stuff!!
Hes currently on 4 scoops split between 2 feeds... Its worked a treat and i'm thrilled :)
 
fab thanks for the update!! i phined global herbs today as was wondering about sarc ex and rig calm. theyv advised me (which was the plan anyway) so getting the sarc ex first then the rig calm do will see how we go :-)
 
obv trying sarc ex for a good period of time, will just need to put up with him being riggy as i dont want to fill.him full of stuff!!
 
showaddy1 said:
Im on day 4 of the rigcalm... as said in previous posts my new gelding was a complete randy bag of hormones, constantly pestering mares and acting very stallion like. Ive been up this morn to feed and amazingly he's chilled out, grazing happily away from the mares... Even when I took my mare out he carried on... amazing stuff!!
Hes currently on 4 scoops split between 2 feeds... Its worked a treat and i'm thrilled :)
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this!! vinnie is on day 4 too and is so much better. good luck op
 
Hello,

My little pony had a sarcoid on his flank and it began to grow, I was considering Sarc Ex however it takes 6 months to work! And it is very pricey for what it is, personally I wanted my pony's sarcoid removed asap. I used the Xterra sarcoid cream (actually more like a brown liquid!) and after one treament the sarcoid dropped off! However the usual procedure is to use one treatment a day over 5 days and that should get rid of the sarcoid. However you need to bear in mind that the sarcoid will weep a bit and scab over, this MUST be left alone! Do not pick at it! Use the treatment for up to 5 days and make sure to leave the affected area well alone, then the sarcoid should vanish. After 5 days (or when the sarcoid drops off) leave the area until all scabbing has healed and then it should be fine.
I hope this helps, I personally swear by Xterra!
 
i have tried the xxtera cream it made one sarcoid drop off but the bigger ine has had two goes and it just looks minging now vet wants him to go in and have it frozen off but he wont load i just dont know what to do!!
 
Well if the vet wants it freezing off then have you considered giving him some Sedalin to help him load? Although my horse has been doped that much in the past that Sedalin doens't affect him haha! Or you could have him fully sedated? Does he have a preferance for a box/trailer? Because you could travel in either one of those if that helps?
Sadly other than being patient and persistant the only thing I can suggest is seeing if he has a preffered vehicle and using that or try sedation?
Best of luck!
 
For the sarcoids - we have a 3yr old who had several around his sheath and due to summer flies we could not use the liverpool cream etc for several months. We tried the SarcEx cream and feed but had no effect what so ever. He has now just had the biggest ones lasered and had cryosurgery on the smaller ones. I know the cryo (freezing) only works on the smaller/flatter type of sarcoid as it does not freeze to a great depth and so is pointless on the nodule type.
Another thing worth remembering is that due to the nature of sarcoids you have to be careful using creams such as SarcEx as although some people have had good results this can sometimes aggravate them and make them worse.
This is a good website for sarcoid advice....http://www.liv.ac.uk/sarcoids/
Hope that helps.
 
he doesnt load in anything bloody nightmare.

and sedalin makes no difference to him! the sarcoid is not a flat one ao maybe the freezing wont make a difference and the freackin vets such a pussy he wont inject him i have to sedate him (or try to) before the vet will inject him!!

i dont know what to blooming do i'm fed up with horses and their ailments! on top of that the poor wee bugger has been stuck in for days as yo not organised aummer fields so i am feeling vey sorry for myself and my beasties
 
Have you considered the Liverpool cream? It is very successful (more so than other creams being marketed) and it would mean you would not need to travel anywhere and I doubt he would need sedation for the application either. I have used it with great success and no re-appearance of the sarcoid in 2 years so far (fingers crossed)
 
Rigcalm does work, certainly more so than the HRT drug my horse was given, however the horse needs to be on it for at least a month or two before you really see the benefits.

The male hormone is not only produced in down stairs department, you also have to remember that there will be a strong brain pattern on later cut horses, specially if they have covered before, which will always be there.
 
It is provided by Dereck Knottenbelt from Liverpool (sarcoid specialist http://www.liv.ac.uk/sarcoids/introduction/). Basically your vet will send him pictures and then he will prescribe appropriate cream and treatment plan. Generally it involves around four applications 72hrs apart. It is better than other creams for getting a full depth although once it starts to work it can look horrible for a week or so as it is cytotoxic so kills off the cells and then the sarcoid will slowly shell out from surrounding 'normal' tissue.
Its one of those cases of if it is not affecting your boy you could leave it and see, or you could tackle it now and get rid of it. The Liverpool cream worked well on my mums gelding.
We have a 3yr old with a couple of large ones (just removed by laser) and some small ones which we are going to do with the Liverpool cream. Horrible things!
 
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