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Iv got a 1 yo Rottweiler male who wees everywhere in the house! He never does it when we're watching so unable to catch him in the act! He will also poo as well in the house. He was castrated in the summer which we thought would help but hasn't made any difference.

An example is this morning I popped upstairs for about 5 minutes, came down and there were a couple of presents!! He'd only just cone in from the garden! He does toilet outside too so it's not a case of just in the house!

We've bought all the sprays to clean up with after to remove his scent (supposedly)! Chucked all the furniture he's weed up! I just don't know what to do next!

He has regular walks, kongs to play with etc

He's a very obedient dog, very playful.

We also have another rotty who's 5 that we took in from a rescue centre and have had her for 3 years and she never toilets in the house so he's not copying her!

I just don't know what to do! Please help!
 
Ditto the vet visit just to be on the safe side.

If all is well health wise and he has the opportunity for regular breaks in the garden (may have to let him out every hour) there is only one thing I have found that works. I had to go through this with my bitch when she was young and I know it is a horrible nuissance but it does work. You need to take a longish lead and attach the dog to you so that he is never out of your sight (I have a small dog so I wore the lead round my waist, but be careful he does not pull you over). That way he never gets the opportunity to wee/poo in the house unobserved. You may find that if you are with him all the time he does not even try to go in the house. When you can't have him on the lead attached to you, pop him in a crate so again he cannot go wee/poo in the house.

I am afraid I had to do 4 months of this, but it did work in the end! (all other methods had failed!)

Good luck!
 
cavecanem, he has his feed divided into two meals a day, one at 7am and the other 7pm. He is fed James wellbeloved complete. He had free access to water all day and night but is never sat there drinking it in one go or anything.

Was going to take him to vets as diabetes did cross my mind. To me though it seems behavioural as he has the opportunity to go outside but as soon as he comes in, he soils! Also when he knows you've seen it he runs off with his head down so he knows he's done wrong.

Not sure if it is behavioural or medical but will book vet trip!
 
OK, regular enough then. What is the consistency like (nice I know) and how many jobbies would he do in a day?

Re weeing-
I would fill up one big bowl in the morning and at night time see how much he has drunk. My fella would drink about half to 3/4 of one of those big metal bowls, supplemented by a mouthful or five from the river when he is out walking, and the vet says that is about right for a large adult.
If you are having to fill it a couple of times a day or more, I think he is drinking too much

If behavioural, and if logistically possible, it would be worth literally tailing him, as BB mentions, and correcting and removing him each time he begins circling, sniffing around (if, like my fella, toileting involves lots of long-winded procedures and gestures before he actually flipping does anything
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My sister has a 2 year old JR bitch that does EXACTLY the same thing. She spoke to the vet who also does behaviour issues. She said the dog is doing this as a sign of dominance. She gave her some tips, like - the dog is not allowed on the furniture at all (previously it slept on their bed and the sofa all day), do not greet the dog when you first come into the house. Feed her after you eat etc. It stopped within a couple of days, like magic. She was also told to stop letting her dog have the rest of her tea and to change the food from the cheap brand they used, which apparently has too much salt in it.
 
booboos thanks for the advice, however I don't think it will work in my case! He's a large dog already and wouldn't be able to hold him on a lead all day and do my normal things! Plus would wind other dog up, then they'd play fight and I'd be in the middle lol! Also I don't allow them upstairs and am always up and down! Thanks though and yes will book vets app!
 
cavecanum, it's soft and occassionally loose and light brown. He does have a delicate tummy. It's hard to judge how much water as they both share a large terracota bowl but between them it gets filled up roughly at lunchtime and then about 9pm.

I'm pretty sure if I did tail him he wouldn't do anything! If never seen him go in the house, its always when I pop upstairs, even if I'm a minute or when I go out to the horses.

He had the run of downstairs and a couple of months ago ate the sofa whilst I'd popped out! He has the ability to push over baby gates which we used to use to contain him to one room, can open both ways doors! Although this side of things is easing up, it's the soiling that's the main problem!

Tracey01, this is something I am going to get very strict on from this week as we're moving house so a fresh start in a new house!
 
OK, well the vet could also help in telling you if he is absorbing the food properly - if he is passing lots and of a certain consistency then maybe is isn't and might benefit from a change of feed.

Also, how much each serving? As has been mentioned before, recommended amounts on packets are often far too much - my large dog gets two scoops (an empty tin can) in the morning and two in the evening, I feed by eye.
 
I would cut him down to 1 meal a day now and introduce a smaller space for him to be when u are out and only when u are in allow him out and keep him in the same room as you so if he does go to squat u can take him straight out bye the collar, basically start from scratch like he was a tiny puppy, dogs will try to stay clean in a smaller space so if you can teach him to hold in a smaller space then u can begin t increase the space, giving to much space means he can piddle or crap and walk off, in a smaller space he would have to sit in it and genrally dogs will not like this, hence he will lear to hold, if he still passes in the smaller space then have him/stool sample checked but for now think u need to introduce a tiht routine, everytime u come home from being out, dont speak or touch jsut release him from the crate/smaller area straight out watch him from the window to see if he does pass anything outside, if he does towrds the end of the motion go out and give him a good wee wee/poh pooh and throw him a treat, if he does not pass after a signifigant amount of time, place him back in the crate if u need to go back out or keep him with u whilst u are in, babay gate the stairs if not already done so and close all doors off to restrict his space unless u go into that room, again if u need to go up stairs place him in the restricted area/crate.............the less chance u give him the better chance u can get him into a routine.
Must say it's uncommon of rotts to suffer late toilet training they are usually early learners, but there will always be acceptions.

Ps if you choose the crate option and he has never been in one, come back for advice to introduce one positively
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