Another "what do you think of this horse?" thread - an ISH.

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I love this chap's face and on paper he is exactly what I'm after. Kind face and jump seems clean enough. However, I seem to be notoriously bad at going to see horses which are not at all as advertised, or I find a lovely looking horse and my YO then points out multiple glaring faults. So could you lovely folks please take a quick look at this ISH and let me know what you think?

http://www.eliteirishhorses.com/horseDetail.php?id=177

My only negative thought is that he's hunted for a season in Ireland despite only being 5. Am I being a bit precious here?

Any comments from ISH owners would also be helpful, as mine are Welshies and they're in their own little horse world... ;)
 
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Looks a lovely sort, some of the best horses around have hunted in Ireland, that would encourage me to see it, however the POA on the advert would not.
 
Looks nice, would not worry about the hunted part it appears to be quite normal for young Irish horses. Guess it all depends on what price he is.
 
My husband and I have a reg ISH (ISH x TB) He is a lovely chap, very kind clever & willing. Although as he is 3/4 TB he is that little bit more 'on his toes' than our other boy who is a laid back cob !

The one in the ad looks lovely, but aren't there photos of 2 different horses in this ad or am I being daft. The first three small photos under the main ad have different markings and I can't tell with the last one as it is the other side.

Have you enquired about the price?
 
LisaS said:
My husband and I have a reg ISH (ISH x TB) He is a lovely chap, very kind clever & willing. Although as he is 3/4 TB he is that little bit more 'on his toes' than our other boy who is a laid back cob !

The one in the ad looks lovely, but aren't there photos of 2 different horses in this ad or am I being daft. The first three small photos under the main ad have different markings and I can't tell with the last one as it is the other side.

Have you enquired about the price?
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no you're not being daft, i have just gone back and had another look and it seems there are!!
 
In the video it is the same horse as in the advert, eg with the markings shown in the pictures, but in the photos somehow they have I think rotated one photo so it seems he had one side with two different sets of markings. I don't think its suspicious, just a bit of a photo editing mix up. Strange but genuine i think! Nice horse, I like him. i'd go and see him.
 
Lovely! The only (slight) faults I can find conformation wise, and neither of which would worry me, is that he is slightly upright in the shoulder and his front feet have a very slight broken forward axis which is most likely due to shoeing.
 
I don't like his conformation tbh, he is very short in front with quite an upright shoulder and I really don't like his front legs I'm afraid- obviously could be a bad photo/angle but based on that, I wouldn't go and see him.
 
Also spotted the photos straight away, personally if they can't get photos right without the need to use photoshop or whatever .. what else are they not telling you or lieing about ?
 
He looks a lovely sort. What would you be wanting to do with him? It wouldn't worry me that he has hunted a season in Ireland as long as he is sound and capable of the doing the job required of him.
 
I know a couple of people who've bought from Elite Irish and been very pleased with what they have. Both young, green horses but both going well and with lots of potential. I don't think you'll get anything under £5k there though.
 
Hmm...I went to see this horse a few weeks ago. When he was advertised as a 7 year old. Others may PM you with info on the dealer.

He seemed a nice type, has nice markings and seems reasonably well put together but he was very young and very green in the school. I couldn't get a tune out of him at all but a better rider then me would do!! Gavin Reily did ride him well.

I'd say with a lot of horses like this, who are with English-based dealers (at the higher end of the price bracket for a green ISH), you will see something that is well turned out and has had a good few weeks of schooling etc., but will be young, green so you are buying potential not proven horses (unless you have concrete evidence of what they have done in the past). He will have done more work with him since I saw him so he could be coming along well.

Don't worry about him having done a season, that's normal for many Irish youngsters and that tends to make em good xc/hunt horses.

I'd say go see him if the price is right, have him vetted, try to get some info on his history and see if they will let you contact the owners. Be prepared to pay 'decent' price for what he is, but that is because you are getting him from a smart yard from someone who has spent some time on him, and getting him to look smart.

Suitable for a competent rider who wants to bring on a green horse.
 
Coming from Elite irish horses he will be expensive, but worth a look if your local- good trial facilities gavin is nice, yard was very busy when i went there we didnt buy as i wasnt fussy on how the horse jumped and for what he was asking i knew i could find better (and i did :) ) Horse seems a nice little chap, short necked, but our ISH is so not sure if there all the same? Everything coming from Ireland I would imagine has hunted. Good luck
 
LisaS said:
My husband and I have a reg ISH (ISH x TB) He is a lovely chap, very kind clever & willing. Although as he is 3/4 TB he is that little bit more 'on his toes' than our other boy who is a laid back cob !

The one in the ad looks lovely, but aren't there photos of 2 different horses in this ad or am I being daft. The first three small photos under the main ad have different markings and I can't tell with the last one as it is the other side.

Have you enquired about the price?
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No, it appears that one of the side on photos has been flipped/reversed, the first one I think, so same horse, just reversed image, although I admit I found that strange.
 
he looks a nice sort - tbh if they say he has hunted for a season and is 5, he has probably hunted for 2:rolleyes: Not saying it happens all the time but they are started so young over there, some end up with soundness issues/huge splints forming around 5/6.
 
Hunting should be a positive thing - it means he should be good with farm traffic, used to dogs running around him, and have jumped some natural obstacles. A lot of irish horses are hunted as youngsters and is deemed as good education.

Would be interested to know the price!
 
I think he's lovely :) not 100% but I think the xc schooling pics are at Boomerang, and if I'm right that white table fence isn't as small as it looks!!! I think he looks really sweet! Wary or POA however! Why do people do that!!
 
I like him :) Nice markings and he looks like he has a nice, positive working attitude.

I'm not the best at confo but he doesn't seem badly put together. Nice jump too.

Can't see a price?! :confused: But if I was horse hunting I'd probably go and view him.

Sorry - just looked at their other horses for sale too! Some rather nice one's and it seems POA is listed for them all anyway.
 
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milesjess said:
I like him :) Nice markings and he looks like he has a nice, positive working attitude.

I'm not the best at confo but he doesn't seem badly put together. Nice jump too.

Can't see a price?! :confused: But if I was horse hunting I'd probably go and view him.

Sorry - just looked at their other horses for sale too! Some rather nice one's and it seems POA is listed for them all anyway.
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Thread hi-jack (sorry) - but your horse has the cutest star, like a love heart. Awwwww
 
He's a nice sort. It's only the main picture that is different to the other pics/vid. But as others have said it's a bit worrying with the POA.

I have an ISH x DWB but he's quite fine and completely different build to this guy. Temp wise very sharp, very clever and talented with a good work ethic - not sure if this follows the ISH or DWB side :)
 
Wow, all these replies!!
The thread had dropped to about Page 5 within a very short time of posting so I had given up hope of anyone ever replying :o

Thank you so much guys for taking your time to reply.
I've done a bit of hunting around and he is also advertised (for £3,750k - perfectly within budget) in a different county and my local county by two other dealers. I'm assume they're agents (although just checked again and he's marked as sold on one of them, but not the others).

Re: the hunting, I don't know much about it to be honest, but remember that when my friend was looking for a horse she was advised (by more than one person) to steer clear of anything that had hunted in Ireland as it would have been hammered over hard ground as a youngster. Perhaps true in some places, I totally accept that it would not be true for all of them. Am surprised (but pleased!) to hear so many of you regard it as positive.

I've got such a soft spot for skewbalds and kind faces, I'm tempted to go and see him - although had made the decision yesterday to spend horse budget on a horsebox instead! I think if he's a bit green he's probably not what I'm after - I'd like to do BSJA and whilst I don't mind inexperience, I'd like to be able to go out fairly soon after buying and not need to spend a long time going over basics.

Thanks again for all your help everyone :):)
 
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Unlikely you'd be able to BSJA that early I think, unless he has had a lot of education lately or sj'd in Ireland and has points to show for it, but I don't think he had from what I remember when I saw him.

Hunting for a season or two I would see as a bonus, as long as they are sound, clean limbed and pass a vetting.
 
Ooh PS that's a price drop !! Cheaper than I would have thought, not sure if that is a reflection on the horse or the market but those kinds of hosses used to be advertised for a lot more.
 
I like him he looks quite a sweet chap and very smart. :) I would however be a bit warey the Irish tend to hunt their horses as 3 yr old's. One of my friends bought a 4 yr old Conny from the same dealer and was told he was hunted as a 3 yr old. It would put me off tbh but it certainly didn't put her off. In one way hunting is fab to get a good all rounder I just worry that they hunt them at such a young age. With the stress on their legs. My friend is very pleased with the horse she bought from this dealer he's only 4 but you certainly wouldn't think it he is very sensible and fab in traffic.
 
I looked at this horse when it was with Alex Bull and that was back in late August/early Septrember. He was up for £3750. When I spoke to Alex about him he was very honest but the horse was certainly not as advertised. He said he needed a lot of work, was very strong and at the time he had only been in the country about a week.
Elite Irish have agents in several counties so it doesn't surprise me that they would move horses around depending on where there was more interest. I am a fairly experienced rider and have brought on youngsters before but after talking about the horse it was not for me.
Don't be put off ISH's as most of them have hunted before coming over to England. There is no reason to believe that they are all 'hammered into the ground' any more or less than horses in this country. And don't necessarily be put off Rex. I don't know if he is still with Alex Bull but if you are interested then call. As I say he was very honest. Hope this helps.xxx
 
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