Anxiety turning to occasional agression. What do I do?

chrissie1

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Our two year old is most probably a Working CS x JRT, the bitch was certainly a JRT, his father was supposed to be another JRT but it transpires that they were probably a split litter. J is a fabulous dog, he loves to be with you, can be trusted off his lead, has a fabulous life here with us at home 24/7. But, there had to be one, he has nearly always had a sort of worried look about him, but has never snapped or bitten, but if anyone bends down to fuss him he has always almost cowered then sidled up and allowed the fuss. Everyone who sees him loves him.

There had to be that but though didn't there? We've fed him on Skinners Duck and Rice once he was off Puppy food, but he had piled on weight so I decided to try the James Wellbeloved. At this time I took him to the vet as he had gone lame, and unbelievably became so anxious that she had to muzzle him, and indeed once muzzled he would have bitten her if he could have. She took him out of the consulting room, and walked him outside to get his confidence and examined him, couldn't find anything, he had a course of Anit-Inflammatories and within days he was fine. But still had this look about him. He took almost took on a different personality, looked very sad, and we had a couple of incidences of tummy tickling (at his instigation) where he growled and mildly snapped. He also growled at OH when he was fussing him and moved his hand away from his ears to under his chin. I ignored this as he immediately jumped up and away with his tail between his legs, knowing he'd done wrong.

Decided to revert to Skinners, and he has become a different dog, more playful and so on. He had to go to the vets for his annual vacc. last week and the vet came out to meet him and was making a fuss of him when he remembered her and growled. Once in the Consult room he was very hyper and she once again took him out for a walk, we of course mentioned the issues with snapping, She felt all round his tummy and he made no reaction, she didn't muzzle him as she didn't want him to associate vets with a muzzle. This morning though, again at his instigation, I was fussing him and ran my hand down his leg and he snapped at me. Now I know that I shouldn't have done it but I extended my hand and he had a very light 'tap' coupled with a NO! I walked away and left him, but he is seriously upset now. I took him to the tackshop, where he met 3 people who all bent down to fuss him, he was fine, but now we're home he will only come to me if I ask him to then lowers himself and runs away again.

I know it's going to take a time before he forgets that incident, but I need to know where to go from here? He's lying on the lawn in the sun, rolling and 'laughing' now, and will follow me to the stables and be fine, but I hate this look of anxiety in his eyes, he's never been hit, but has always tended to act as if he has been. I am minded of the day we bought him when we asked to see the bitch (already weaned) and without provocation she ran at me and bit me!

Sorry this is overlong.
 
I hate to say it but If I was looking for a pup and the mum bit me without provacation I would be out of the door. Health & temperment are vital and it seems what you have described as nervous behaviour is usualy inherited.

After ruling out pain issues which your vet has you now need to be very mindful of touching her and discourage other people from doing so.
 
Thank you, I know what you are saying, but for the last two years we have had the most friendly, loyal, cuddly companion. I am sure that the change in diet, which I thought was going to be for the better, was a wrong move. The vet mentioned behaviourists but said she didn't think we were there yet. When we had the first instance of aggression with the vet I sat with him in Reception afterwards for a while, and a Receptionist came out and loved him, and he her, for ages.

He sensed that once in the Consult room that 'something' was going to happen. Last year (same practice different vet) he was as good as gold, had his teeth checked and never a murmur. This vet said that it was possible that he had learnt this behaviour and needed to unlearn it.
 
TBH, I think you will be better off going to someone that can observe what is going on and advise accordingly. It's so hard to get a sense of what is happening from even the best worded post: it's not that you have not described the situation well, but you need to see the dog to really help IMO.

I would sooner see a behaviourist when the issues remain relatively minor than wait for them to turn into bigger ones, if I was really stumped. I wish I had gone to see my trainer much sooner than I did, it ended up costing me more as Henry needed more sessions to undo all the bad habits we had (although I did gain a good friend out of it in the shape of my trainer:)).
 
Chrissie I think if I was in your situation I would try to find out about your dogs siblings and certainly speak to the breeder. What made you chose him over the other puppies, what were the other puppies like?

Also you have nothing to lose by seeing a behaviourist who will try to establish a trigger for his behaviour, I realise a lot of dogs dont like the vets(who can blame them:D) and will try to bite. I think your vet has handled him in a kind sympathetic way the worrying thing for me is trying to bite you and your oh since. He could be a very nervous sensitive dog and this is where a good behavourist will be useful.
 
I don't think this has anything to do with feed, you have a cross between a dog which can have nippy tendencies and a terrier that certainly can!

This needs to be addressed in training terms now. You are quite right as well that a smack, no matter how quick and how light is not the way to go....aggression begets aggression.

From what you say, your dog was always wary - people bending over is actually quite an aggressive stance for a wary dog... and whilst they may accept it as puppies, as grown up dogs they learn pretty quickly that a growl gets what they want, i.e. the person backs off. That then extends to everything...."if I growl, then people go away....hey that works".

the next stage of course when that doesn't work is they bite....

So if you don't know the correct way to train your dog not to do this - and many people don't, I really recommend you go to a local dog trainer (reward based) to get help.
 
If you smack a dog like this, he is likely to defend himself.
Agree, I'd have been out of there if the mother behaved like that, indeed, if I had observed the mother of my older dog properly before I bought him and his sister, I probably would have bought neither of them - more problems come from the motherline and people are too quick to blame the stud :o

ANYHOO, agree with others, get to a training class or get a behaviourist out, not something that can be diagnosed over the interweb.
It could be a pain reaction too as well as a self-defence one, when you're his size and strangers are bending over him, if he is nervous or insecure, of course he will be a bit wary.

Please also make sure you are not transferring any nerves or insecurities onto him, it is so easily done, if you think 'Ohmigod, he is going to snarl and bite' he surely will....
 
Thank you all so much for your replies. The other puppies, as far as I can tell, are excellent little dogs, one is described as 'awesome'. I should add that he was castrated at 6 months, and that I/we have always been able to take toys from him, lift his food, touch him in his bed, move him along the sofa, all with no hint of a growl or resentment.

Since he'd improved with the change back to Skinners, I haven't approached him with any degree of caution ( we breed big WB's and I'm used to 17hh horses with their own views on life) so this morning was totally unexpected and I KNOW I did the wrong thing and punished him. This afternoon he has 'come round' and is happy about me and me touching him. Haven't pushed it but wanted to establish friendship with him.

I had a mare that was more than Alpha in her approach to life, you couldn't trust her an inch, yet all her foals have been happy well adjusted ones.

I think maybe a call to the vets is in order to find out more about behaviourists in the area.

Thanks again. :)
 
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