Any advice? My smelly spangle

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As you all (probably!) know i rescued my spangle Jake last summer. He came from 2 (i think!) broken homes...

When got him you couldn't shout at all, make any fast movements around him at all, he even used to flinch when i coughed/sneezed! When i approached the kennel to let him out he would go round and round in circles really fast and then roll over and wee on himself
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He was obviously mistreated ... thankfully he is now a total mummies boy and is now a happy, fun, alert spangle ...

My query is... he is very messy in his kennel i.e. poo and wee LOADS literally every day and every night. Now he's obviously been told off for doing this, hence the rolling over and weeing when i approached kennel.

either myself or my dad (whoever is doing the dogs that day) has to clean out at least 2/3 poo's every morning and evening and wash his kennel out daily. I pressure wash his kennel every week with dairy bleach.

I've tried everything to try and stop this ... any ideas? Trouble is as they are down the kennels they are left to their own device, i.e not like being in a house with someone around. I've tried different foods/changing meal times/walking after eating - straight after, an hour, 2 hours etc. Have even resorted to giving him treats as soon as he poo's out on a walk - just to try and encourage pooing outside is a good thing.

I always have to bath him too as he constantly stinks of stale wee
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Any ideas? At all? Anything ....
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Sorry it's so long
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Sorry i didn't explain that bit very well!!!

If you look at this link .... scroll down to the bottom of the pics you will see my kennel set up. The have a run basically with a ledge at the back with their beds on ...

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5273842/an/0/page/6#5273842

He poo's in the run part, i thin he may have done it actually in his bed up on the ledge a few times, but not many.

He does wee on his bed though, i have to change it a couple times a week...
 
does he wee on the half of the ledge that does not have the bed in it?, or more in the bed it's self, can u see marks running doen the plastic bed where he is cocking his leg? is his bed very wet or just little bits of urine on the blanket and does he pooh in his bed or on the ledge?
Spanish inquisitian(sp)
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Well he won'rt sleep in a plastic bed like the rest, he would rather sleep on the concrete so i took that out and just put his square duvet type pillow thingy bed on the ledge, he's always moving it around the ledge from one end to the other so he just kind of pee's anywhere, sometimes on the wood sometimes bed ... same for poo ... lol what a lovely conversation btw
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Lol..fine with me Im up to my knees in piss and [****] every day
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As it's very hard when they are kenneled to get aroung toilet training as such, I personally would block of the majority of the ledge and make a small closed in box for him(like a tiny kennel, the smallest u can get away with.
IMO the rule of thumb with tackling passing motions in unwanted places is the minimise the space, hope this makes sense........so box the lot in, and make him a box with ply board, literally like a crate but a box made of wood as that would be easier with the set up, even if the plastic bed does not fit in any more, jsut lay vet bed on the floor space, if he removes it, he clearly wants to lie on the floor, he would be warm enough with that hair anyhow

Am I making sense.
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Or if easier, place a small crate there and cover it, and block the rest of the ledge off(possibly with a slanted bit of wood/ply/chipboard, and see if he stays clean in avery small enclosed space.(obs still leaving the crate door open.
 
Yea i get you .... I can get my fiance (lol got that's weird typing that) to make a box for him and try that.

I obviously guessed it was a insecurity issue when i got him but thought maybe with him coming out of his shell and having a decent routine might have bought him out of the habit ... but not so
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ETS: spelling terrible - it's late my brain is sleeping!!
 
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Or if easier, place a small crate there and cover it, and block the rest of the ledge off(possibly with a slanted bit of wood/ply/chipboard, and see if he stays clean in avery small enclosed space.(obs still leaving the crate door open.

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We've only got one crate and it's very small ... it was for Willow when she was at home when small (and lets face it she ain't exectly big now!!!) ... i'll get OH onto it this weekend
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Thanks btw
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Or if easier, place a small crate there and cover it, and block the rest of the ledge off(possibly with a slanted bit of wood/ply/chipboard, and see if he stays clean in avery small enclosed space.(obs still leaving the crate door open.

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We've only got one crate and it's very small ... it was for Willow when she was at home when small (and lets face it she ain't exectly big now!!!) ... i'll get OH onto it this weekend
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Thanks btw
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Sounds fine....the smaller the space the better, I never place dogs in crates any bigger than what they are....some people go for gigantic ones...I have cages of all sizes and even if I have to use a bigger than I would like one, I place a huge bed in to make it smaller, insecure dogs can gain a huge amount of security in a small space, they like to curl up snug.
Just make sure the rest of the ledge is ot of bounds too
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This crate really is tiny ... as in he stands higher than it!! Not really a crate, more of a travel/ carry box.

If this works you do realise i will have to respect your wishes and never post a spangle/lab pic ever again LOL
 
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This crate really is tiny ... as in he stands higher than it!! Not really a crate, more of a travel/ carry box.

If this works you do realise i will have to respect your wishes and never post a spangle/lab pic ever again LOL

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Remind me to upload the picci of our wirey pointer in the cats bed
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no Sh!t the bed is jsut big enough for the cat to get in and last night be caught bud curled up in it
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and none of him hanging out
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strange..and his big bed was right next to it.
Now he is currently in a rescue dogs crate, door is open and it's westi size and he is massive and he is curles right up in it
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And ... you can't deny it ... you said you liked a lab on here .. on a public forum!!!! mwaaaahahaaaa gundog mafia strikes again... another victim!! lol

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LMAO.....I always hope people never remember these posts when I admit to these things
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LOL you gotta post that pic!!! Our rottie manages to curl up in the smallest little balls when he's on the sofa!!!

And it's all been noted ... so you better watch your step lady!!! lol
 
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LOL you gotta post that pic!!! Our rottie manages to curl up in the smallest little balls when he's on the sofa!!!

And it's all been noted ... so you better watch your step lady!!! lol

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You have a rotti
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.........well where are the pics????....how dare u post spangle and lab pics and not your rotti
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*cayla stomps feet* get me those rotti pics right this minute....or asap
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or there will be bother in AAD.









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OKOK! Rocky ... who is my OH's .. softest thing i have every met!!
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Mozz
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Diesel
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Mozz & Diesel are rescue dogs ... they are with the MIL

oh and have you met Kensa?!?!

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Dear lord....why oh why have we waited so long for those pics.....he is a handsome dude
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I knew u would not beable to post without adding spangey or a lab
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was a cute pic though
But the rotti....is a dude
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ah but which rotti???? I've currently got Rockster on the sofa curled up next to me x

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LMAO....I was thinking ....am I pissed or does that look like atleast 2 different dogs????
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of course I am pissed but now I have took another look I saw the names..........I love them all......the first picci is fab.....so Im going with rocki...even though I love the huge heads on the others
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WHY.....have we not seen these b4??
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U spangle obsessed bint
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You have to love those rotti more than spangles they are the most lovable dogs ever
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oi wench!! spangles rock too!!! lol

i have posted a few pics b4, maybe you just missed them!!!

Rocky you can do anything with .. Diesel there is only 4 people in the entire world that can be in the same vicinity as him .... anyone other than me, OH, MIL and OH's brother he will attempt to eat alive!!!
 
QR my male will hold for hours rather than go in his run (I kinda understand, I wouldnn't go in my bedroom, either) but his sister will go for three and four hours walks - then come back and pee and poo in her run. We call her 'the muckspreader'
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Never!!
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Otto is due a bath at the moment, he is absolutely stinking, but I feel mean hosing him with cold water in this weather!

Tell Jakey he can come Pigeon Shooting on Saturday with Otto
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I am rather nervous, my Daddy is taking the 16 bore for me, Otto better behave...
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I doubt Otto will have very much to hoover up
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You know the cartoon 'Dog' in the back of the Shooting Times?? He generally spends his time mocking his owner's lack of ability with a shotgun... That is definately how my Dad's dogs pass the time
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