Any bright ideas please....

Dazed'n'confused

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So for those of you fortunate enough not to have come across one of my previous rants, I have a rising 5yr old Irish x WB mare who I bought last year at this time, backed at a friends professional yard & the took to a livery yard for some summer fun & education. What sold her to me was the fact that as an unbroken 3yr old they could stick her in a trailer, take her down what I can only describe as an off road mountain to a school, loose school her to show me, pop her back in & whizz her home, no fuss, no panic!! We picked her up & brought her to Yorkshire in a Trailer & she travelled a few times over the summer in a wagon with my friend's horse, she was a saint (despite her horse pawing & being a cretin)!! I then brought her home at the beginning of November to live with my fat pony & home bred 2yr old. She travelled from the yard to home on her own in a trailer with no fuss!!
So we've had separation issues but she will now wait in her stable until I have turned the others out/got them in & whilst she's not overjoyed, she stays still & will eat carrots till I return. I can take her out hacking across the main road with no problem, however she is a pain in the backside jogging & wanting to get back when I go round the farm - it's as if she too near the others to resist their pull!! The others are generally not bothered till they see her when they whinney (understandably).
Anyway, (are any of you still awake at this point, sorry), my problem is that, after years of saving up I've finally managed to buy a 3.5t box. It's made really well, we went through every safety feature we could think of as I usually deal with uber ridiculous warmbloods who like maiming themselves!! I didn't think that the mare would be a problem having been so good previously, I thought travelling backwards might take her time to get used to but I didn't expect her to have a full blown tantrum!!
I went for a lesson & before I even set off she climbed on the tack locker... She sat down, fought her headcollar, bit the partition & climbed on & off the locker most of the way. Thankfully I have a camera so I could see if she was stuck or not! She was calm when I arrived, stood whilst I went to find my instructor & went really well! On the way home she sat down as we set off but then was perfect all the way home until she heard the others whinney & then she went for it & got a hoof stuck on the locker lip. Thankfully she waited as I jumped out & free'd her!
Took her out again the next morning, just a short journey & back & she was stroppy but didn't try any antics...
Five days later, I try again - 4 times I had to stop to get her down (it's quite a good party trick but it's a good job I was on the lane to the Castle & not the main road) & in the end my husband drove home & I travelled with her as she was going to end up flipping herself over backwards..... I know it's not right to do this (legally or safety wise) but I knew it was separation temper! She stood like a soldier, never moved.....
So, those of you that haven't lost the will already, any bright ideas??!!
Am going to take her out on a short trip every day whilst my husband is off if necessary, but I'm not sure that if I don't keep doing it every day she won't revert to being naughty every time I give her a few days not doing it!! ! I've ordered her a mirror as I have one in her stable which I do think helped settle her there. I've even considered getting a little pony but then I have 4 equines, a lot of work & cost just to ride one horse!! Surely it shouldn't be this difficult!!
Short of tying her to the floor or hobbling her (which I think would result in her throwing herself on the floor) I can't think of anything else other than shooting the damn thing (which I'd have gladly done today if I had a gun & could shoot)!!
 
I am sad to say I think that the answer will be to take the tack locker out.

You could try making the partition wider, checking the ventilation, cross tying so it is harder to get up there, putting a slope on the top of the locker......but IMO once they have learned to climb a locker you are on to a loser.

It would be a shame if being unsettled when travelling were to become habitual.

Sorry.
 
Yep, I agree!!! I too have never come across one that 'un-learns' to climb!!!
I hate horses!!!
There's loads of ventilation & loads of room in the partition, in fact I narrowed it to more like trailer proportions which I think she preferred.... Am so frustrated!!
The only other thing I thought of was a weaving grill (which I don't like in a lorry but would solve the problem)!
 
My pony used to try and rear up over the low bulkhead in the box I hired. I now tie him lower (nose height) and also tie him quite short which has solved the problem, he never tries to go down on the floor

I'd try adjusting the partition first though
 
My pony used to try and rear up over the low bulkhead in the box I hired. I now tie him lower (nose height) and also tie him quite short which has solved the problem, he never tries to go down on the floor

I'd try adjusting the partition first though

Thanks, damn horses hey!! I've adjusted the partition to a bit narrower as watching her she seemed to prefer leaning rather than spreading her legs!! It's so annoying when I know how well she's travelled in anything before & also that she was perfectly ok when I was with her - no unbalanced moving about, stood like a 15yr old jumper that's travelled the world....
She's tied at nose level as short as I can!! Need a tie ring on the floor!! She doesn't particularly jump upwards, more lean back, crouch & carefully slams each foot on top of the locker..... Maybe the circus wants her...???
 
I have always looked at boxes with tack lockers like that and thought they are asking for trouble. I would probably sell the box and buy a 7.5 ton box, which could travel 2 of your horses together and would be much safer.
 
I have always looked at boxes with tack lockers like that and thought they are asking for trouble. I would probably sell the box and buy a 7.5 ton box, which could travel 2 of your horses together and would be much safer.
I'd love a 7.5t again but I just got sick of having an old wagon that was either breaking down or I was worrying about breaking down!! If I had a husband or dad who was mechanically minded then it wouldn't be so bad but it's just me that deals with horse-related things (husband only with me today coz last time I struggled to lift her off alone) & I've enough on without that worry! I will never need to take two horses together - the home bred will hopefully be backed next year & then I will sell one or the other, preferably the current ridden one as she's just a fun horse (I say just, it's not a slight on her abilities, it's simply that the other one has world class breeding & should jump, although I'm more than aware she could be useless too!!)!

I also know that if I took her back to the livery yard she would settle again & more than likely travel ok .... She'd also get limited turn out & a smaller stable - at home she has a stable & a pen to go in & out of & she has 6 hours of turnout..... If only we could tell them!!
 
For sound related issues (whinnying and answering), one idea is to record the sound and play a loop -- over and over again. Eventually, she'll get to ignore it.

Never tried that with horses but it works for dogs. (Thunder, gunshots, cattle grids, etc).

Don't know nuffin' about tack lockers though….:(
 
For sound related issues (whinnying and answering), one idea is to record the sound and play a loop -- over and over again. Eventually, she'll get to ignore it.

Never tried that with horses but it works for dogs. (Thunder, gunshots, cattle grids, etc).

Don't know nuffin' about tack lockers though….:(

Ooo now that's one I hadn't thought of, thank you!!!
I could also record me swearing at her all the time as she appears to like that...!! :-D
 
For sound related issues (whinnying and answering), one idea is to record the sound and play a loop -- over and over again. Eventually, she'll get to ignore it.

Never tried that with horses but it works for dogs. (Thunder, gunshots, cattle grids, etc).

Don't know nuffin' about tack lockers though….:(

That has made me smile - when I take our GSD Talos out in the car he makes a noise, so I phone OH on hands free, and OH shots at Talos, and Talos lies down and shuts up! If I stay chatting on the phone Talos stays down.

Easy to see who is the boss, and it is obviously not me where Talos is concerned.
 
That has made me smile - when I take our GSD Talos out in the car he makes a noise, so I phone OH on hands free, and OH shots at Talos, and Talos lies down and shuts up! If I stay chatting on the phone Talos stays down.

Easy to see who is the boss, and it is obviously not me where Talos is concerned.

^^^ :D
 
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