Any feedback on these stallions.

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Ooh, Horsegroupie, I could just bite him he's so cute..
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Looks like he needs to grow into those long, elegant legs!
 
I dont mean to barge in on this post but just wanted to borrow some of horsegroupies knowledge!

I really like alot of the coloured stallions you have mentioned (we have just had a foal by Masterpiece) We are thinking about putting our mare back in foal next year but would want a smaller horse, she is 16hh and we would like to foal to mature around 15.2 are there are decent smaller coloured stallions you could recommend? The mare is 1/2tb 1/2 ID (by stetson) so a smaller TBx would be ideal

Thanks
 
What a great mare! She is super and wow does she produce super babies! I don't think mares get enough credit - everyone always raves about the sires and forgets the dams.
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Mind you, sires tend to get all the blame for their offsprings' faults as well.
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But why on earth are you choosing a stallion for his colour rather than opening up your choice to non coloured. A lot of us don't like coloured horses. Surely ability is so much more important than 'decoration'!
 
Hi AC
Ideally you would want a 15h stallion IMO but as the mare is the bigger half of the equation I personally would go for 14.2-15h, I will do a little digging on that height group for you, no one spring to mind immediately other than my pony but he's WBxPintoxArab, so not TB. I will get back to you shortly (well probably this eve!)

I never really took much notice of Masterpiece, just his breeding lines didn't appeal until I saw him in the flesh at the vets and thought wow what a stunner!
 
Totally agree to breed a great horse you need a great mare, this mare is one of our favourites
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I think there should be far more attention paid to the mare side as well because half of the foals genes come from there, you can't expect a stallion to work miracles!
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But why on earth are you choosing a stallion for his colour rather than opening up your choice to non coloured. A lot of us don't like coloured horses. Surely ability is so much more important than 'decoration'!

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Not sure who you were aiming this at, it looked like ht but she hasnt said anything about breeding for colour as far as I can see, but if it was me (may have not been) you will see from my comments I don't breed for colour this is my first ever coloured foal and I would have used the sire if he was bay, pink, purple or tangerine - I liked him that much! The other coloured foal I put up I did not breed my friend bought and I put the picture up to show an offspring of a stallion mentioned. I like a nice coloured and I have absolutely no problem with people breeding coloureds as long as they don't breed just for the sake of the colour and use horses that would still be worthy if they were bay! The OP imo suggested stallions that imo weren't great and I have put some suggestions of better stallions, if they are going to breed for colour at least make sure they know there are stallions out there that would still be worthy as bays if they weren't coloured.
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Ditto HG.

Aimee. I would seriously look at DayDream owned by Lostock stud, he is extremely elegant and refined and a lovely modern sports pony (small riding horse) He has superb bloodlines, lovely movement and some world class jumping bloodlines in there too.

http://www.lostockstud.co.uk/stallions.htm

Again as HG has said it wouldn't matter if he was grey bay black or chestnut he is a very smart stallion.

There is another much smaller pony I think 13.2hh By Neron, who has sired many great sport, jumping and dressage ponies on the continent mainly Holland, he stood at stud in Scotland I think last year but think he may now be sold not quite sure. Saw an advert for him recently will try to track him down.
 
Why such a downer on coloureds?.Are you saying that coloureds have no ability?.Yes i would like to produce a coloured foal.Why,because i'm a big fan of coloureds.Yes there are some lovely Bay stallions out the and some complete donkeys.What you may like as a stallion someone else may not like your choice.If i put my mare to a coloured stallion and it comes out pink with blue spots so be it aslong as it's healthy.Not all coloureds belong in shafts.If you dont like coloureds that is your choice.I am not breeding a foal to sell it will be a keeper.
 
I agree and I havent got a 'downer' on coloureds (although I am not kean on them ) but I would breed for quality first and I have yet to see a coloured stallion I would put a mare to - for eventing that is - maybe OK for a CHAPS class. Each to his own but IMO colour should be at the bottom of anyone's list when looking for a quality stallion that suits a particular mare.
 
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Thank you, We did look for a smaller stallion when we put her in foal last year but i just couldnt find anything that I liked. It seems alot more coloured pony stallions have emerged recently so maybe there is more choice now?

Masterpiece definatly has the wow factor, I have competed against him many times at county shows and he always won! I bought a 5yr old coloured gelding by him from the trade it and he and I are now novice eventing, He (frankie) is the nicest natured horse you could ever wish to own and so willing so that is why we chose masterpiece, we are delighted with the foal and plan to keep him. Ideally we would like to breed another Frankie!

Frankie -
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Our Masterpiece foal
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Any info you find out would be of great use, I love the coloured foal you have bred!

Thanks again
 
He is very smart, thank you for pointing him out, I have emailed them for more info on him!

If you could I wouls be interested to see what he is like. Thank you
 
here is a picture of the Mare as this may help select/rule out some stallions, she is 16hh 1/2 tb 1/2 ID by stetson, she novice evented when she was younger and her full sister is intermidiate eventing at 6 (injury forced my mare to retire) she has a fantastic jump very technically correct and clean.

Woody -
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woody 10 months pregnant!
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Thanks
 
I know Dances with Wolves, a very big Blanket Spotted Stallion, He is probably one of the more athletic type appaloosas around.
 
Hi AimeeC,
I have come to a conclusion! There is a severe lack of coloured stallions at the 14.2-15h mark (well ones that I would put my name too anyway!
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The only one that caught my eye was Acado http://www.lostockstud.co.uk but he only measures in at a measly 14h
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There was one called Dutch Puzzle 14.2 but I couldn't find his pedigree which leads me to believe he might not have one
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and there was Razzle Dazzle royale at 15.1
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I was hopin to find you a nice 15h mini Vincent or Umenno or Utah but apparently they do not exist!

Now if you want an American Paint there is loads of them
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Love your mare and your little masterpiece is soooo cute!
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Hi HG

Thank you for looking, at least im not the only one who cant find what I'm looking for! Acado does look nice tho, would 14hh and 16hh make 15hh plus? As i am only 5'2 15hh wouldnt be a problem for me but would ideally like about 15.2.

Not too keen on razzle dazzle Royal, theres nothing worng with his, he just isnt my type of horse, and I have seen Dutch puzzle and like the look of him but his lack of breeding is a worry and he doesnt seem to have actually "done" anything outstanding.

We are going to get woody tested to see if she is homozygous as her spots may indicate this and I know both of her parents are coloured (will get foal done too as he is spotty!, not sure why because he is def being gelded!) if she is then this will open up our choices. Have you heard of/seen Winchester D (15hh), I liked the look of him he is by Ed king hill, what do you think of him? I also quite like Druncross spurs (15.2) but he and my mare are quite closely related.

The search will continue! Not really thought about paints dont know alot about them and their breeding to be honest!

Thanks for your time, dont you feel there is a niche market there!?
 
I didn't like RDR either and wouldn't touch DP with no pedigree, you'd have absolutely no idea what genes could throw through.

I did look at Obsessed to Boogie when I was looking but I liked Pawnee Express, now feel free to slap me as I know nothing about this type of breeding and I am in completely new territory but I just liked the look of him (but he was too tall).

http://www.springmeadowsstud.co.uk

If I was breeding from ACs mare and was looking for a coloured stallion to use, i'd pick Vinent II

http://www.millfieldstud.co.uk

I think they would have a stunning foal together but unfortunately he's too tall.

One I am keeping my eye on is Multicolor, he is 5 this year I think he looks stunning but I am waiting to see if he can perform.

http://www.horsedeals.co.uk/bigjump2.aspx?horseid=6264
 
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Oops I want not recommending them, just using them as an example of what is classed as a paint.

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Well I bit my tongue because I didn't like OTB! The only one when I was looking for a stallion for AC was Pawnee but I have to admit I was going through the stallion directory and it was full of Paints and I was like, yuck, yuck, yuck, pawnee express mmm he looks nice, yuck yuck! But then people who are into Paints probably think the same looking through Sport Horse Stallions
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Yes I do like the looks of some of the paints but would look to refine my mare and she is stocky enough so need some TB adding to her.

I do Like the look of Vincent II very smart horse with alot of scope, and 15.3 would i be likely to get a 15.3 or could the foal reach bigger than 16hh?

I Like Multicolor II alot, I also liked his full brother Multicolor but after seeing Multicolor II i think i prefer him, like you say just need to wait and see if he performs!

There are alot of nice coloured stallions at 16hh plus but very few 14.2/15hh Goss green Mirage was one I was watching (15hh) but his performance (BE) hasnt persuaded me to use him!

I have to say that my fave coloured stallion at the moment is Utah, such a shame he is so big!

The search continues!
 
Drumcross spurs is throwing some LOVELY foals. I really like him as he has got the most goregeous temperament and a nice looking animal to boot.
Friend of mine sent her 10 generation grey WB x ISH mare to him, fully expecting to get a grey foal and she had a piebald!!! A stunning piebald to boot and at a year she is stil nice!
He is closely related to the Country horses as grandsire is Stetson but I much prefer him
 
Another nice one IMO is Alderfarn II - he is my 2 yr old's sire and if he is anything to go by then Aldi is certainly throwing some nice stock. If he wasn't so far away I would have used him on my mare this year, esp as is so reasonably priced.
 
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Glenhill Gold I'd never heard of him either, but I rather like the pictures..

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He looks yummy! Far more my sort of coloured as he looks quality rather than just coloured.
 
I've got a yearling by Masterpiece and I really like his breeding. He is a super stamp and one which in the flesh does catch your eye, even if he wasnt coloured I think he would too!

My chap was out of my Int Event Mare, was her first time in foal and I now have a super dark bay colt. Have spoken to loads of people and there seem to be quite a few coming through now. He also seems to be super fertile, which is great to know.

Am really pleased to see another one out eventing and doing well!
 
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