any ideas on a stallion?

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hi, ive made the big decision to put my maiden mare in foal next spring. she is a 12 year old, 14:2h , of unknown breeding but i suspect has some TB & welsh somewhere along the line. Ive owned her since she was 5 and will have her forever. She has done BSJA and very scopey. Was hoping to get something bigger from her poss around 16hh to eventually event on myself. Im in yorkshire.
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any ideas on a stallion, or type to put her to?
 
Personally i would put a bit more TB blood in there myself in order to ideally get something taht will be a bit more 'sporty/athletic' for the eventing side of things,
 
yep was thinking along the TB lines, but any ideas welcome?wud just love to have some foals off her as she is v special 2 me, wud jump a house and is a v big mover with a heart of gold (except wen tracters r involved!)
 
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Personally i would put a bit more TB blood in there myself in order to ideally get something taht will be a bit more 'sporty/athletic' for the eventing side of things,

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Yes but you are a rational person, I am just plain obsessed
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I wouldn't put a stallion as substantial as a CB, or ID, Hanoverian etc for that matter, on a 14.2 maiden mare.

Depending on what you want I'd also look to be lightening her up and add in athleticism to complement what she already has.
 
I agree that hoping to produce a foal that would make over 16hh from this mare is unrealistic, there would be such a dramatic difference between dam and sire you would have to be very lucky to end up with something that is a smooth composite of all the best of each of them and could be breeding a bag of mismatched bits.
More realistic to aim for something to add a little height and quality, TB or small warmblood type
 
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Personally i would put a bit more TB blood in there myself in order to ideally get something taht will be a bit more 'sporty/athletic' for the eventing side of things,

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Yes but you are a rational person, I am just plain obsessed
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Yes - I think we have all realised that you're a bit obsessed with the CB's!
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Don't get me wrong - I think they're a fab breed - used to ride a fab CB mare that was one of the lead carriage horses in Pride and Prejudice (Colin Firth one) - just not my cup of tea generally...don't shoot me!
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so id be best putting her to something around the 15;2 mark for adding some height without getting a missmatch foal?have spoken to a couple of breeders with larger stallions who all seemed to think putting her in with a bigger stallion (16hh ish) wud b great, but i wasnt too sure tbh and thort it wud b a bit much for her been a maiden as well
 
I also think trying to get a 16h out of a 14.2h maiden is unrealistic, you'd have to be looking at stallion around the 17.2 mark and thats too big IMO on a maiden 14.2, also ther is still no guarantees on the average height they can lean towards either parent and the you have to factor in first-foalitis as I call it, which is that alot of first foals in my experience come out under the average height between the parents. I think and this is just my opinion that you should use something around 16h - 16.2h very tops if its light, to add some height and quality. I wouldn't use a ID or CB on this mare (sorry! I do love ID and CBs! really!) but a nice light warmblood or Tb would be my preference!
 
ok - horsegroupie - do u hav a pic handy of the stallion the watcher had i mind?just so i can what i should be aiming around in other ppls opinions?nice to know wat lots of ppl think before any decisions get made
 
wow horsegroupie, he is gorgeous, somethings telling me i couldnt afford the stud fee, lol!! *dreams*!!! does anyone have any big objections to breeding from my mare - i realise she isnt particularly high quality, but the foal is intended to keep as my own , just wondering, ie conformation etc
 
In general I am not in favour 'just because' you happen to have a mare handy and my only hesitation in your case would be that you don't know the breeding background of your mare - having said that if she has showjumped affiliated and has a nice nature, and is straight and correct in her movement, then why not?
Breeding has risks, and you need to be aware of the potential risks to the mare as well as any foals you produce and realistically if you wanted a potential eventer it could be cheaper and quicker to simply buy a quality youngster so you can see what you are getting. There is a very special feeling about breeding your own though
 
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wow horsegroupie, he is gorgeous, somethings telling me i couldnt afford the stud fee, lol!! *dreams*!!!

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Thank you
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, he's actually very reasonable because he's only 4 years old
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He was £250 nffr this year because we want to get his stock on the ground!
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There are quite a few FEI Eventing Ponies that are in foal or had foals by my stallion Weston Justice as he is near TB not too big himself but often throws bigger as he has quite big bloodlines. You cannot alsways influence size with a mare, i had a 17hh mare I swore if I put a shetland on her it would come out 17hh still, but if it has quality and jump it will do a good job. Remember this year small is GOOD!
 
I hate to say this but none of my maiden mares ever had small first foals. From my own experiences it is an old wives tale. It probably came out about as people were careful not to put a maiden mare to, too large a stallion, so compared to later foals, that first foal had the genetic potential to be smaller.

That aside I would be looking at a 16hhish TB or Trak type, not overally substantial. Without knowing your mares genetic makeup you dont know if she is big or small for her own breeding, so you might get a surprise in the foal.

Actually maestro's suggestion of Weston Justice is one worth considering, as a proven stallion you will have a good idea of what he produces, and he has done the business under saddle. (Taking nothing away from HG's stallion, I just dont know much about him).

Another little eventing stallion that I like the bloodlines of is Primitive Faerie Tale. Very neat little compact stallion but may have a fraction too much bone for your mare. He is advanced as well. Upton Deli Circus is only 15.2hh so probably too small, and again not sure he has enough blood for your mare.

Brendon Hill Stud have 2 small TB stallions who produce eventers. Ben's Affaere has superb expressive movement for a TB, but I dont love his hind leg. Future Role has produced some very smart youngsters, all the ones I have seen have inherited his quality, but he wouldn't have as much movement for my own taste. But well worth a look http://www.brendonhill-stallions.co.uk/
 
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