Anybody got a Welsh or a Welsh part bred?

My Thorneyside stallion Thorneyside The Marksman has a fantastic temperamant. I bought him as a yearling to put on all my Gwynfaes mares, I lead him everwhere in a head collar, he covers in hand and runs out with the mares all summer. He is used as a baby sitter by the mares who seem to dump the foals with him and just go off and do their own thing and he passes the temperament onto his off-spring. We can always go into the field and handle the foals practically from birth, we even haltered the foals in the field last year.
 
Tazhazzamoose said:
no interest in spending hours studying pedigrees or lines, whats good and what aint. I just have a well bred welsh-and thats not my words, its what breeders have told us.
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it's what a local welsh breeder told me once when his daughter came to view my lorry ,he saw the beast and asked about her and the passport was in the car so i showed him and that's what he said. doesn't interest me in the slightest!
 
the thorneyside lad i have the pleasure of knowing a total dream to handle, my 4yo leads him out to the field & he has taken everything in his stride that we have shown him, there are not many yearlings that just stand there whilst you drape chainmail & sheets over their backs & as a lightly backed 4yo he went into an arena with 20 fully armoured 14th century knights & stood stock still whilst they fought each other (well exept for knocking one over whilst having a scratch! :) )
 
Aoibhin said:
the thorneyside lad i have the pleasure of knowing a total dream to handle, my 4yo leads him out to the field & he has taken everything in his stride that we have shown him, there are not many yearlings that just stand there whilst you drape chainmail & sheets over their backs & as a lightly backed 4yo he went into an arena with 20 fully armoured 14th century knights & stood stock still whilst they fought each other (well exept for knocking one over whilst having a scratch! :) )
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i love it :D
 
I think we are into the territory of nature v nurture and we can't even sort that one out with people, let alone horses.
On the subject of bloodlines it all depends where you are coming from. If you want to buy one horse to have fun with whether that be showing, riding, driving or whatever you obvously look at conformation, type and fitness for purpose, but IMO if you are breeding then you will probably take into consideration the bloodlines for the type of cob you are trying to breed. I think part of the fascination of breeding cobs is the range of the type of cob that various people are trying to breed.
 
I lost my old man last summer, and miss him everyday.
This is him, at the age of 20, in a veteran class;
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Very cheeky, but a gentleman to handle. He retired not long after these pictures and had almost 2 years of being a thoroughly pampered pet. I had a sec d when I was a teenager but was really overhorsed as I just didn't have the maturity to deal with his exuberance. He took full advantage of me and I sware I'd never touch another Welsh with a bargepole!
Then, along came Ted and he really was the horse of a lifetime for me.
Ted was a serving stallion until the age of eight and I scour for sale ads looking for his relatives as I would love another of his lineage.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/penpontbren+superted
 
superted1989 said:
I lost my old man last summer, and miss him everyday.
This is him, at the age of 20, in a veteran class;
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Very cheeky, but a gentleman to handle. He retired not long after these pictures and had almost 2 years of being a thoroughly pampered pet. I had a sec d when I was a teenager but was really overhorsed as I just didn't have the maturity to deal with his exuberance. He took full advantage of me and I sware I'd never touch another Welsh with a bargepole!
Then, along came Ted and he really was the horse of a lifetime for me.
Ted was a serving stallion until the age of eight and I scour for sale ads looking for his relatives as I would love another of his lineage.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/penpontbren+superted
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real lovely chap :)
 
I had a Derwen section D that was a fruit loop but absloutley stunning and I know 2 Donys section D's (half brothers) one is so laid back you'd think he was stoned, and the other is the biggest wimp I have ever met!
 
I think the bloodlines are important, but they should never carry more weight than the actual horse standing in front of you. In your case, you know the horse standing in front of you is a decent mare, but if you are looking to breed from her it is worth researching her breeding for yourself so that you can work out if there is anything you should avoid in a potential husband for her, or if there are any conformational faults that have passed down the generations (even if your mare doesn't display them very much) where the stallion will need to be particularly strong.

It's difficult, though, as fashion has such a lot to answer for in breeding. What is popular at one point in time can flavour what is seen as 'good'. For every person who turns their nose up at at Thorneyside lines there will be another who turns their nose up at Derwen blood. Getting the opinion of someone who produces the sort of ponies that you personally like and who has done so over a number of years is invaluable - which is exactly what I did when I was thinking of bringing Wolf home, and it was my good friend telling me that Wolf's dam was indeed 'the real deal' that cemented my decision to bring him home. It turns out that Wolf's dam is quite closely related to her Ds, including the little advanced pony I used to ride for her. Heck, if Wolf ends up with even half the career of my friend's very versatile ponies I will be more than happy.

Anyhows another gratuitous Wolf pic from the other day. Just every once in a while you get glimpses of what he may grow into:
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pec said:
I think we are into the territory of nature v nurture and we can't even sort that one out with people, let alone horses.
On the subject of bloodlines it all depends where you are coming from. If you want to buy one horse to have fun with whether that be showing, riding, driving or whatever you obvously look at conformation, type and fitness for purpose, but IMO if you are breeding then you will probably take into consideration the bloodlines for the type of cob you are trying to breed. I think part of the fascination of breeding cobs is the range of the type of cob that various people are trying to breed.
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100% agree.I have a Thorneyside colt and he is the most even tempered chap I have come across. Bit stupid to dismiss all Thorneyside breeding as the same IMO :rolleyes:
 
I have a 21 year old Welsh Sec B x Arab who I've had since she was 6, she's amazing - very loyal to me, would never dream of selling her or giving her away as she would be unhappy.

I also had a young Welsh Sec D out of a TB mare who was far too much horse for me, she had serious issues that sadly I was too young and not experienced enough to deal with and luckily we eventually found her another lovely home. She was really strong and bargy, esp in hand, had separation anxiety and would nap, rear and bolt. It was such a shame as she was gorgeous, and when she was concentrating was the loveliest ride, loved jumping and schooling and was sooo clever. I just totally lost my confidence with her and as a result I've been totally put off Sec Ds.

I now also have a 5yo Connemara X TB who is just as clever, if not more so, but without the separation anxiety issues, and the strength, nappiness and bolshiness.
 
I've got a section d- my first one! I've nearly had him a year now. He is the cheekiest pony I've ever had- always into everything! He slings his food bucket over the door every night when he's done, you can rub his nose and he curls it up in the air and he's currently learnt to stick his tongue out at you on command (he even wiggles it a bit too!) He's so laid back to do but can have a handy back leg when washing them!

He's very clever with learning new things but can have a bit of an attitude- push him too far when teaching him something new and he can get annoyed and bronc (very rare though) He likes to buck in warm-up areas for fun but always knuckles down in the ring. He's got piles of personality and loves to show off in the showing classes but can sometimes do a bit of a flying leap in the extensions.

He's a snaffle mouth, go anywhere do anything kind of pony and not nutty with it! I honestly couldn't see myself having any other breed than a section D. :)
 
1/4 welsh B, 3/4 andalusian
This pic pretty much sums up his personality - firey and looking for things that might possibly try to kill him (to be fair here he had just been chased by an angry swan!), but very very sweet, curious and friendly.
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Definitely a quirky character!
 
welshstar said:
I've got a section d- my first one! I've nearly had him a year now. He is the cheekiest pony I've ever had- always into everything! He slings his food bucket over the door every night when he's done, you can rub his nose and he curls it up in the air and he's currently learnt to stick his tongue out at you on command (he even wiggles it a bit too!) He's so laid back to do but can have a handy back leg when washing them!

He's very clever with learning new things but can have a bit of an attitude- push him too far when teaching him something new and he can get annoyed and bronc (very rare though) He likes to buck in warm-up areas for fun but always knuckles down in the ring. He's got piles of personality and loves to show off in the showing classes but can sometimes do a bit of a flying leap in the extensions.

He's a snaffle mouth, go anywhere do anything kind of pony and not nutty with it! I honestly couldn't see myself having any other breed than a section D. :)
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awwh he sounds lovely :) i walked my mare around the green just outside my yard today next to my sister on her horse and on the second time my mare did a grunt/squeal and took off! didnt go very far but she thought she was hilarious and jogged back into the yard :p
 
ooohh wow another welsh x andalusian!! Ive got welsh cob x andalusian.. arent they fiery little things!!!
 
We have a welsh cross Hanoverian - he's 16.1hh and looks (and tbh acts) like an over grown welsh pony! He was an accident - his naughty 14hh mum jumped into a field with a lovely Hanoverian called Philip Pembroke.

Tom was hand reared as he had to have his stomach pumped aged 7 days after he ate something he shouldn't have, and him mum then rejected him. He now assumes that everybody is there for his own entertainment, and if he's not the centre of attention he'll throw something at you, or put his rugs/brushes/hay/poo into the water barrel.

oh yes, and he's a complete poser!!

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I have an 11 month old Welsh D x DWB and she is such a little sweetheart. She's so laid back that she is positively horizontal but very quick to learn and ultra cuddley! Absolutely adore her!
 
JenHunt said:
We have a welsh cross Hanoverian - he's 16.1hh and looks (and tbh acts) like an over grown welsh pony! He was an accident - his naughty 14hh mum jumped into a field with a lovely Hanoverian called Philip Pembroke.

Tom was hand reared as he had to have his stomach pumped aged 7 days after he ate something he shouldn't have, and him mum then rejected him. He now assumes that everybody is there for his own entertainment, and if he's not the centre of attention he'll throw something at you, or put his rugs/brushes/hay/poo into the water barrel.

oh yes, and he's a complete poser!!

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he is lovely!! must be a welsh thing to assume the world must revolve around them...once in a tantrum my pony stole my broom off me and promptly trod on it til it broke in half. did she look smug? yes, yes she did. :mad::rolleyes:
 
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