Anyone else pay £3.75 for turn out/bring in?

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The thread below on what you get for your DIY got me thinking...the above is the rate at our yard. As a result, very few people use it, we all arrange between ourselves for turn outs or bring ins.

Also, if less than 24 hours notice, it's double that!

Can anyone beat me?
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You're lucky you're allowed to help each other, one yard I was on wouldn't let you , you had to use the yard for services, and it was £1 to hang up a haynet left for your horse. ( This was 10 years ago) . My daughter and I weren't even allowed to help each other.
 
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I always price jobs I don't really want high too !! Perhaps that's what's happening here?

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Spot on!

Lol, it's per single turn out/bring in
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You're lucky you're allowed to help each other, one yard I was on wouldn't let you , you had to use the yard for services, and it was £1 to hang up a haynet left for your horse. ( This was 10 years ago) . My daughter and I weren't even allowed to help each other.

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Now that's beyond ridiculous
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So...I am right to be looking for another yard?

Also, during the snow, YM disappeared at lunchtime every day. So no matter how much snow you got stuck in, even if you were prepared to pay double, noone was there to get your (fully clipped) horse in.

Should I stay, or should I go?!
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Um..... Depends on if there are good points.

As a seasoned yard mover (always for the horses sakes
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. You have to decided what quirks you can/can't live with.

Our 'current' yard has quirks lol, but the horses seem happy, it's looked after, it's close to home so we can spend time with our neds instead of travelling. Definate quirks, but so far they are bearable
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MrsM I do see what you are saying. But perhaps what I didn't make clear, is that this price is indicative of ALL the livery services prices.

Would you still be happy? Yes, the yard has its strong points. Good all year turnout, good hacking, indoor (tiny though) and outdoor arena, xc course (which is not maintained and therefore I do not use it as it is dangerous).

I am off looking at yards tomoz
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am by no means desperate to leave where I am. But it could be so, so much better than it is!!
 
I thought ours was expensive. Its £2 to have them turned out and then another £2 to bring in. This doesn't include any rug changes and in the summer he needs a fly mask which they don't do either. I always do it myself unless I get stuck and usually then I just get up early in morn and do it and get them to bring in.
 
At the yard i am moving to at the weekend it is £1.25 for turn out including rug changes and £1.25 to bring in including picking out feet but i dont think they change rugs back. I thought this was very reasonable, so in my oppinion yes it is too much and there is no harm in looking for a new yard but the good points that you have pointed out about your current yard all seem to have a 'but'?!
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Even Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask as he robbed people!............... £3.75 turn out? & £3.75 bring in? that's obscene. I accept that YO/grooms need to earn a living but that is ridiculous. Our groom charges £1.50 turnout which is reasonable & due to this the sertvice is used, if it were the price of yours it wouldn't be.
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I think this is on our yard to. Tbh I hardly ever look at my bill I just pay it! Prob should pay more attention.

But last time I looked at my bill when she was put out most days and I was paying I think £86 a month in turn out in the mornings.
 
The yard I've just moved to is £2.50 for turnout or bring in with rug changes/stable bandages. Bit steep, but unfortunately I don't have a lot of choice!
 
I always remember a mate of mine (farrier) being asked to shoe for shires.

His reply way 'Yes, £250 a set' and the bloke said 'OK' my friend was mortified. he really didnt want to do them.

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Well you are on DIY which obviously means do it yourself, therefore the additional charges should have little impact on you as presumably you knew them before you moved to yard. I would assume if all the extra charges are high then the YO does not really want to do assisted/part livery and has priced it as such.

As for moving yards, if you are finding your needs have changed and you now require assisted livery then yes it would be sensible to shop around, otherwise if you and horse are happy at yard I'd look to share duties with another DIY'er.
 
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So...I am right to be looking for another yard?

Also, during the snow, YM disappeared at lunchtime every day. So no matter how much snow you got stuck in, even if you were prepared to pay double, noone was there to get your (fully clipped) horse in.

Should I stay, or should I go?!
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Not having a go here, you dont want to pay the prices, thats fine and perfectly understandable. However, why should the YO be "on standby" for when you DO want to use them? ie. in the snowy weather.
 
Our yard is £3 a day for t/o and b/i - this includes rug changes both times. I don't think this is unreasonable really. And we can ask them to do it as and when we need, including at short notice.
 
I think it depends on how long it will take for the person to get the horse in - eg how far the fields are from the stables.

I was at a yard once that charged £10 for brining in when the horses where in the far fields as it could take up to an hour to bring them in.
 
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So...I am right to be looking for another yard?

Also, during the snow, YM disappeared at lunchtime every day. So no matter how much snow you got stuck in, even if you were prepared to pay double, noone was there to get your (fully clipped) horse in.

Should I stay, or should I go?!
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Not having a go here, you dont want to pay the prices, thats fine and perfectly understandable. However, why should the YO be "on standby" for when you DO want to use them? ie. in the snowy weather.

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It's terrible isn't it. I mean YO's shouldn't be having a lunchbreak, they are lucky to be allowed to go to the toilet sometimes
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As a Yard Owner I turn out every horse in the morning as part of the DIY package. I ask for 24 hours notice if they want a full service day as I have a life too and at night I bring in my own four horses and the part/fulls. If I am turning out and bringing in and the livery is mucking out sometime in between then actually who is looking after the horse and checking it out? I charge £1 to bring in and am just about to increase my charges as what is £1 actually worth it would cost the livery far far far more than that in petrol to come and do it themselves? I have to go up to the fields - find the horse, catch it and bring it in and i can tell you in snow it takes forever. Also being 'on hand' to bring in is not feasible at short notice. if no one has told me in advance I don't know that I am needed and I make my own life happen. really think about how much you are paid - and how much your YO is paid and I think you will actually realise you are not having a bad deal.
 
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So...I am right to be looking for another yard?

Also, during the snow, YM disappeared at lunchtime every day. So no matter how much snow you got stuck in, even if you were prepared to pay double, noone was there to get your (fully clipped) horse in.

Should I stay, or should I go?!
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I only have one livery, so I'm not a YO in the way some are here.

I will happily see to my livery's horses for her when I'm out and about of a morning/evening. I'm here anyway. I will sometimes text when weather is bad etc and ask if she'd like me to bring hers in whilst I'm "at it" to save the trip. I don't charge for this, but I'm only talking about two horses (who lead together, so one trip). I guess I wouldn't be able to offer this if I had a yard of 20 horses or so.

I would, however, resent any assumption that my duty is to be here at all times just in case I might be called at a moment's notice to fetch someone's horse in (not talking about my livery here incase she's reading as she wouldn't do that
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... just in reference to the post I'm replying to). Why shouldn't the YO go out at lunchtimes if they want to? As a DIY livery (emphasis on DIY) surely your fully clipped horse is rugged up of a morning in accordance with the weather, or it's forecast? If the YO isn't rushing back to fetch her own horses in every time the heavens opens, why should she rush back to fetch a livery's in that is on a DIY contract? My own horse is fully clipped and she was out every day from 7.30am - 5pm when the we had the worst of the cold snap. She was just rugged up accordingly, to keep her snug.
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Yes, £3.75 probably sounds expensive on the balance of adding up how much a week's worth would cost....but then if you wanted it doing alot you'd surely thrash out an assisted livery contract to include those services?
 
Thats about right I would say, we charge £4 including rug changes, boots on/off/feet picked out/legs and feet washed.
It takes about 1/2 hour in total to do all of this- longer if the horses is wearing more than one rug, neck cover, hood and boots.
If its not charged for in that way then how do people think the staff they do it get paid???
 
£3.75 / £4 is totally ridiculous.

It takes me 15 mins maximum to bring one horse in each evening, wash feet, pick out feet and change rug. Plus the field is a 5 min walk up a track. Am I just ultra efficient??
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Cant understand how it could take 30 mins to do, unless grooming the horse too? I guess I dont faff around though and especially when cold, get the job done in a timely fashion!
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A friend of mine was telling me that she gets charged £20 - £25 per day if she needs to put her normal DIY horse on full livery???!
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Again, totally shocked, and day light robbery in my opinion. Takes me probably 40 mins max to fully do a horse, turn out, bring in, muck out / hay etc... To think that's nearly £30 per hour for yard duties - that's what I pay my instructor!!

I understand that there are overheads to pay in running a yard, but I cant imagine that people would get paid more than £10ph for basic yard duties?
 
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