Anyone elses saddle give them a sore daisy??

OP here

You guys crack me up :) I honestly thought I'd get maybe one or 2 replies from people being too polite to ignore.

So the saddle fitter came out yesterday. I explained my daisy issue and she seemed like she'd never heard of the issue. She did have an idea on how to resolve it though.

Seems the saddle was out of balance and needed lifting at the front with a riser. He has quite a dip on either side of his wither (which may or may not fill out with work/when th grass comes through) which the saddle was settling down into.

So I get back on and all of a sudden my horse is freely swinging along dropping into an outline without me asking. He felt amazing, easier to turn and much more forward. Saddler said itl be a combo of more freedom in th shoulder and me now being more central and in balance. Funnily enough my instructor said my legs were too far back (which iv never had on another horse/saddle) so turns out th saddles been perching me forward.

I'm hoping that's the poor daisies days of torture over. Suppose I won't know till I give it a good go.

Thanks guys :-)
 
It is to do with the waist (twist) of the saddle.
The pelvis of women is a lot wider than that of men.
Saddles were designed by men for men so little alteration was made to the original shape of the waist.

The wider the waist the less likely it is to rub a ladies daisy!

Good article here and I love these saddles because they have never caused me problems!
http://www.westcountrybridlemakers.com/saddles-2/lady-rider-saddles/
 
1stclassalan said:
I'm half crazy - all for the love of you,
It won't be a fancy marriage - for havn't got a carriage -
but you'll look sweet - on theeeer back seat - of a bicylce made for two!
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Aye, until daisy gets all battered by the bicycle seat and they have to have her surgically altered! :D

misterjay said:
So is my Daisy, and very friendly too, always welcoming any friends who pop in, hiding behind the front hedge :D
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My daisy's more of a loner. Doesn't get a lot of visitors, y'see.

If daisies could be lighthouse keepers, mine would be up there polishing it's lamp :p
 
Foxhunter49 said:
It is to do with the waist (twist) of the saddle.
The pelvis of women is a lot wider than that of men.
Saddles were designed by men for men so little alteration was made to the original shape of the waist.

The wider the waist the less likely it is to rub a ladies daisy!

Good article here and I love these saddles because they have never caused me problems!
http://www.westcountrybridlemakers.com/saddles-2/lady-rider-saddles/
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I'm the opposite, I need a narrow waisted saddle, wide waisted ones are torture. My Stubben is quite narrow waisted but then again, I do usually ride side saddle with my legs ladylike unspread :D
 
Just read this whole thread and pmsl!!! Lots!!

In all serious though I get this daisy problem quite a bit. I've got tight hop flecked which I'm working on, but in the meantime has anyone got any recommendations for suitable pants or jods / breeches. All my jobs have big seams which make it worse and my pants, whilst big pants, (nit all but riding ones are) all tend to have a seam that sits just... Er... There!!!

Any ideas? Serious ideas though girls!! (And boys!!)
 
Kerrits jodhs are absolutely blissfully comfy, no seam there at all (and yes, i just checked, there's a sort of oval of fabric covering the, ahem, daisy area, with seams above and below it and to either side, but not near it at all) and tbh most knickers are fine, but Sloggi are the best imho.
 
tallyho! said:
:o

What's in the middle?
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Just read the whole thing and am so glad I put my coffee down! :D

Luckily the only problem I ever have when riding is achey bum bones after a long ride but I've not got a lot of meat on my derierre (sp?) :o

Tallyho - the middle is a "Gooch" that bit of skin that lies between your daisy/foof/frufru/ladybits/flower (delete as appropriate ;)) and your *ehem* bum ;):D
 
JFTD said:
My daisy's more of a loner. Doesn't get a lot of visitors, y'see.

If daisies could be lighthouse keepers, mine would be up there polishing it's lamp :p
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Polishing its own lamp hey *wink wink nudge nudge* what you do when you're not on H+H ......er you're NOT on H+H when you do that right :eek::p
 
I got some cycling (padded!! :)) undergarments at Lidls a while back when they were doing a "cycling" bit on their shelves. Fantastic, utterly fantastic, and they didn't break the bank. They've got padding in all the, ahem, right places.

I had a Thorowgood high-wither saddle for my last horse. Bought it brand new, and only had it a week before it starting affecting my, em "daisy" as OP has delicately tried to put it. Blimmin agony. Luckily the tack shop took the saddle back (but not totally happy about it), and I got another saddle which didn't give the problem.

Get rid of this particular saddle would be my advice and get something which fits both YOU and the horse. If you're not comfy when you're riding, then you'll be affecting the horse's way of going anyway. It just isn't worth being uncomfortable in the nether regions. Get rid!
 
TigerTail said:
Polishing its own lamp hey *wink wink nudge nudge* what you do when you're not on H+H ......er you're NOT on H+H when you do that right :eek::p
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Haha ;) :D

I'd forgotten those posts :o Really should be more careful what I post - it's amazing what can come back and bite you in the daisy at a later date :eek:
 
Thanks Kerilli. Off to research kerrits jods and sloggi pants. I don't have control over the saddle as horse is a share, do I need to be protected.

Just looked at my jods and the rely do have massive seams. My daisy doesn't stand a chance.
 
I have two children , no problems with the first but after the second, well! lets just say i know EXACTLY what you are talking about :p so im useless as i have no idea how to help but sympathize with you hugely......
 
actually i have just read through some more of this post and i wonder if the problem is caused more by the pelvis, like i said i didnt have any problems with first child but with the second one i had pubis symphis where you pelvis kinda falls apart and now i have, after riding since i was diddy, rubbing and pain ... i wonder if its the whole childbirth thing boll**ksing up your body in yet another way that no one tells you about when you get pregnant and so makeing you sit funny ...
well at least i look funny when a get off and try and walk with my 'pressed flower' regaining blood supply and sensation .

im takeing up driving!
 
I've resurrected this thread after searching on some fairly random terms to find info about chafing lady bits! Entertaining thread but, lets face it, chafed daisies are not very entertaining at all! It is full of very useful information, thank you all, but I have a few more questions, and wondering if any one has any more to add!

I've looked for Kerrit jods and can only find them on ebay imported from the US (postage about £25, I guess because of the tax) or from Three Lows, and I'm not so keen on ordering from them with the poor feedback on customer service. Has anyone found any good jods widely available in the UK without a gusset seam, or with some good padding?

Secondly, no one has mentioned issues with their own "anatomy" as causing this. Has anyone considered (or had) a labiaplasty to help with this issue? I did a quick google, and it would appear to be not an uncommon procedure anymore, and riding (bikes and horses) seems to be a common reason for having them.

I'm going to wish I'd posted this under an alter!
 
Holy crap, seriously? You'd consider chopping bits of your.....bits off in order to ride more comfortably?? Can't you just sort of....tuck them in?!
 
cinnamontoast said:
Holy crap, seriously? You'd consider chopping bits of your.....bits off in order to ride more comfortably?? Can't you just sort of....tuck them in?!
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Ha Ha Ha

I did have this problem but I took a deep breath and spoke to my saddler about it, he put a couple of bits of foam under the leather of the saddle just in front of the stirrup bars and it has made so much difference
 
Well, um, no, don't fancy the idea much!! But if you google it, there are some really shocking stories about the problems some people have before having it done - it is obviously a real problem for some. I haven't got it that bad. But tucking them in...... doesn't work!
 
cinnamontoast said:
Holy crap, seriously? You'd consider chopping bits of your.....bits off in order to ride more comfortably?? Can't you just sort of....tuck them in?!
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Oh MY!!!!

I don't know if my eyes are watering with laughter or watering with the thought of pain.

Erm, I did know someone who had this op after children, but it is because they had, er, changed in that department with a difficult birthing process (you can tell I have not got kids, as I don't know the correct terminology) and it was just to put everything back to how it was before.

I have not read all of the thread, but I am just now retiring (put the form in today) from a job where riding 6-7 hours a day was not uncommon. IMO it is down to the saddle a lot. The horse with a rolling action will not help, but I have gone from comfy to not comfy just with a saddle change.

I am not sure what it is about some saddles, it may be that they come up too soon, or are unbalanced, but it is defo the saddle that can be changed to ensure comfort.

I was amused to see that the Wow saddles incorporate the CC seat for just this issue. I am not sure what the CC stands for, maybe Comfort Channel, or Comfy ...Daisy as the thread says. I found that this saddle was not comfy for me at all as it threw me forwards, but interesting that they have designed a channel with a sculpted out part for this very issue.

I would have a saddler out with some secondhand saddles and see if they can't help. If you part ex yours in it may not even cost so much.

Better than an op anyway!
 
Yes, best to spend a couple of thousand on a saddle than on surgery!! I have had this problem with lots of saddles, but my GFS close contact was fine. Unfortunately I sold it this summer, and I bet it would have fitted my new horse, who came with his saddle, which is what I'm having a problem with. Lesson in life - DO NOT sell saddles you like, it will always fit something else in the future.
 
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