Anyone got a British Warmblood?

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I have a registered British Warmblood and after discussions with a lady about what breeds he has in him, she was really surprised. Dad is also BWB and has a mixture of Hannoverian, TB and Polish Warmblood in him. Mum was TBx.

What breeds do your BWBs consist of?

And any photos would be a bonus!! Thanks.
 
I've got a 2 year old by Catherston Dazzler (BWB) out of an ISH mare. See photo left of her as a yearling. She's absolutely gorgeous & very sweet.
 
I own a british born and bred warmblood, though she is AES registered and not in the BWS studbook. When you say British Warmblood, do you mean a british born warmblood, or one from the British Warmblood Society studbook?

Her sire is the Zangersheide stallion Cevin Z. Cevin Z's dam and sire were both Holsteiner, though his sire's sire Cor de la Bryere was selle francaise.

Her dam is a KWPN mare by Concorde. The dam's dam and sire were both KWPN, though on the dam side there is also Hanoverian (Voltaire) and Selle Francais (Pachat II).
 
Me!!I have a BWB youngster. He is TB x Trakhener from Fleetwater Opposition lines and is just the most wonderful sweet natured little lad. What I'm finding is that generally people don't know what a BWB is yet. They can rhyme off lots of warmblood breeds but not the BWB. He is well built and will be finely built but still solid and strong. I'm so excited about our future!

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Ok, so what exactly IS a British Warmblood? I am confused how a TB x Trakhener is classed as British? Wouldn't that be Dutch/German (where do Trakheners originate from - suddenly my mind is blank!)

I surely 'technically' have an Irish WB (connie x TB)!!! ;-)
 
Thanks for the pics guys, what stunning horses!

My boy's black so I have a soft spot for blacks too :)

My gelding is registered with the British Warmblood Society (dark blue passport)....so would he be in the studbook? I'm a little confused to say the least!
 
I have a BWB but he is british born and registered with AES. He is by Handel out of a Gino III mare. He has Selle Francais, Holsteiner, KWPN, ID and TB way back in his blood lines!
 
Our horse is a British Warmblood and is registered with the AES. His dam is Selle Francais (French warmblood) and his sire is a registered KWPN (Dutch Warmblood), although his sire was actually Selle Francais and his dam was TB x Gelderlander. So quite a mixture.

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Surely a British Warmblood is just a mix of any of the 'original' warmblood types, that is bred in Great Britain?

So, they are all crossbreeds really - nothing 'breed specific' about them.
 
arwenplusone said:
Surely a British Warmblood is just a mix of any of the 'original' warmblood types, that is bred in Great Britain?

So, they are all crossbreeds really - nothing 'breed specific' about them.
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But I think the same can be said of any of the foreign warmbloods that operate an 'open studbook'.
 
Charla said:
I have a registered British Warmblood and after discussions with a lady about what breeds he has in him, she was really surprised. Dad is also BWB and has a mixture of Hannoverian, TB and Polish Warmblood in him. Mum was TBx.

What breeds do your BWBs consist of?

And any photos would be a bonus!! Thanks.
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Warmblood is more of a type rather than a breed. The studbooks will grade TB and Anglo Arab stallions into them to add some refinement, etc. Generally the stud book a horse is registered in is indicative of where it is born.
 
Well, I am still confused and agree with the other poster who said they are no particular 'breed'. The mixes are certainly not breeds that originate from Britain are they?

My understanding of a warmblood was that it is a TB x with something, ie a trakhener etc and whatever native type it was crossed with is what determind what WB it was (ie Dutch, Belgian etc). Theoretically wouldn't a British WB be a TB crossed with say a Cleveland Bay? (they're British aren't they?), then you could have a Welsh WB (Welsh x TB and Irish WB (Connie x TB), the list goes on. I find it all a bit confusing!!!
 
I too have a British Warmblood who's AES registered. Sire was KWPN and Dam was BWB, he has a lot of KWPN in his lines as well as a lot of Selle Francais and even some Arab further down.
 
My boy is allegedly a WB x New Forest. He has the native good doer traits but a TB coat in the winter....... he has such a sweet nature.. does this mean he is a warmblood??
 
In my mind Charlotte125 yes a shire x TB should be a British WB!!! None of the other breeds that have been mentioned (x with TB) would seem to be British at all so how can they be a British WB?? Because they were bred in Britain? I really don't get it, I think someone's made up the whole Bristish WB label from when WBs were fashionable and everyone seemed to want one.
 
HELLO!!!! New Forest (british!!!) British warmblood? They are a type rather than a breed, same with a sports horse. It means a mongrel!!!!!!!
 
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Nigsha said:
HELLO!!!! New Forest (british!!!) British warmblood? They are a type rather than a breed, same with a sports horse. It means a mongrel!!!!!!!
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In your post above you said yours was a WB x New Forest - did you mean TB x New Forest? That would deffo be a British Warmblood then :D

I have both a Shire x TB and a Clydesdale x TB - so I have TWO British Warmbloods! :p
 
Warmbloods are a group of middle-weight horse types and breeds, primarily originating in Europe, registered with organizations that are characterized by open studbook policy, studbook selection, and the aim of breeding for equestrian sport. The term distinguishes these horses from both heavy draft horses ("cold bloods") and refined light saddle horses such as the Thoroughbred and Arabian ("hot bloods"). Though modern warmbloods are descended from heavier agricultural types systematically upgraded by hotblood influence, the term does not imply that Warmbloods are direct crosses of "cold" and "hot". It is thought that the warmblood type, which originated in continental Europe, descended from a landrace of wild, native proto-warmblood ancestors,[1] and possibly trace back to a wild prototype called the Forest Horse.

I think this means I have a true British WB, given its not direct crosses of cold and hot which is what you are implying by the Native TB cross
 
ladyt25 said:
None of the other breeds that have been mentioned (x with TB) would seem to be British at all so how can they be a British WB?? Because they were bred in Britain?
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By the same token, look at the pedigrees of continental warmbloods - I don't think you will find many of them are the product of one country only! Just look at the example of the Dutch warmblood sire I gave above who was actually half French!
 
A defining characteristic of a warmblood registry is studbook selection, though even some purebred breeds in Europe use this practice. Studbook selection is the use of external evaluation - critiquing conformation and movement - of potential breeding stock to cull out unsuitable breeding horses and direct the evolution towards a particular goal. Today, studbook selection usually entails a performance proof in addition to external evaluation, particularly for stallions.


Dont think any of ours meet this criteria :(:(...
 
Friend has 2 bwb babies for sale on big buckskin colt who is out of a pink papered brandenburger mare and his sire is a cremello czech wb.
The other is a bay filly out of a zangershied(sp) belgium warmblood mare and her sire is cavvys boy who is by cavalier royal and is a mix of selle francais and holstiner.
 
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