helbe
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I am looking for information about cockapoo`s ,where a standard poodle bitch is used,does anyone know about this?
anyone got a cockapoo?
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s4sugar
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Bred by puppy farmers and purchased by idiots. What else do you need to know?
Oberon
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Wow.
Jake10
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No real help but I think it's a bit hit and miss with size and fur type. I wouldn't buy one personally but that's just me.
EAST KENT
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Why not rehome a needy mongrel? Much the same thing and you won`t be funding a puppy farmer`s lifestyle.
skint1
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My mum had one in the 1970s and 80s, it cost her $10 from a pet store in a bad part of town, we have no idea if she came from a puppy mill or anything, she heard about the puppy because her cousin worked there and felt bad for the puppies that came through there in those days. Her name was Daisy, she had black curly fur and she was very intelligent, very loyal, playful and a great family dog-but nowadays, knowing what I know, I wouldn't get one because it encourages A**holes to breed more
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ibot
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hi my best mate got one and loves it too bits, she did lots of research and made sure where it came from who were the parents. they say only get first litter of cockapoos but im happy with my jack russell cross ???? lol
Cinnamontoast
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Never heard of a standard poodle being used. Would the cocker need to stand on a box?! 
horsies4coursies
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friends of mine have a cockapoo - very loving easily trained and great fun from what i haved seen...... hope this helps
xxMozlarxx
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Oh the irony!! No I won't bother, it will be wasted!
Actually bred for people with allergies who don't want a poodle. Absolutely beautiful dogs. Ours was bought from a lovely private home, we still keep in touch. The most lovely spaniel bitch, put to a minature poodle, fantastic temperament. Our boy is the most loving soft intelligent animal, obedient and easy to train. Everyone loves him and comments on his lovely curly coat. He is very healthy due to the known cross breed vitality. There is really nothing bad I could say. as a true dog lover I would never say negative things about
another type, these are people's loved pets
Oh..and I am a professional graduate, not an idiot.
Ps standard poodles are usually put to labs?
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s4sugar
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And most are not non-allergenic. The ones in the UK are not the same as the ones in the USA which are an American cocker cross poodle instead of a cocker cross poodle. There are quite a few breeds with a curly coat without cross breeding for a chance of a curly coat.
"Cross breeding vitality"? I suggest you do some research as this is a myth and in fact most of these crosses are bred from substandard and untested parents and more likely to have health problems than a well bred purebred.
Being a graduate doesn't preclude someone being an idiot!
All dogs (apart from very rare exceptions) are lovely but no dog should be bred purely for sale. These crosses are only produced to make money for their breeders thus their production is abhorrent to any canine enthusiast.
By paying money for one and by calling them a silly name made up for a different cross the purchaser demonstrates a lack of research into dog breeds.
No problem with someone adopting one - there are plenty in rescues.
mymare
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I've never quite understood the whole non-moulting dog for those with allergies idea. I'm allergic to all fur and feathers, so unless the dog is bald...
s4sugar
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Its a marketing ploy - all dogs have danders and it is usually these which set off allergies.
All dogs apart from very few hairless (most hairless dogs have hairy bits) have hair of some kind.
With any dog you have to take the hair off the dog, off the carpet or out of the sugar bowl depending on coat type.
People often believe what they want to believe - hence so many designer crosses in rescues as they don't live up to the buyers expectations.
They are just as likely to get all the characteristics of either breed that someone dislikes as the ones they are told they will get.
Kaylum
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Yep all dogs shred hair, even my Scottie does and she needs clipping. What people don't realise also is that dogs harbour dust mites in their fur, which is why they need a good wash regularly, and many people are actually allergic not to dog hair but to dust mites that are in the dogs coat. Hence they think they are allergic to dog hair.
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That is interesting. My brother is allergic to dogs at least that's always been the story. He could tolerate my old dog in the house as long as she wasn't in the same room. It would seem from this I could make things even easier for him if I bathed the dog before visiting.
MurphysMinder
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I would imagine it would be very unusual to find a cockapoo using a standard poodle bitch, as CT says the dog might struggle to reach!
Regarding the whole "doodle" thing, there is a piece in this weeks Dog World quoting Willy Conron who "invented" the labradoodle as a guide dog. A couple of interesting quotes from him
" I quickly realised that I'd opened a Pandoras Box when our next litter of ten labradoodles produced only 3 allergy free dogs"
and
"Today I am internationally credited as the first person to breed the labradoodle, but I wonder, in my retirement, whether we bred a designer dog - or a disaster!"
Says it all really.
Regarding the whole "doodle" thing, there is a piece in this weeks Dog World quoting Willy Conron who "invented" the labradoodle as a guide dog. A couple of interesting quotes from him
" I quickly realised that I'd opened a Pandoras Box when our next litter of ten labradoodles produced only 3 allergy free dogs"
and
"Today I am internationally credited as the first person to breed the labradoodle, but I wonder, in my retirement, whether we bred a designer dog - or a disaster!"
Says it all really.
Kaylum
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It's worth a try!
rowy
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We have one! She is a lovely dog! Very energetic and loves to play and sticks but is such a lap dog inside, loves to lie on you all the time lol.
Since we have got her, my dad's boss met her and fell in love with her and bought one as well and also my auntie absolutely loves her and fell in love with her temperment and they have just purchased one ready in a few weeks time.
Would just say, check to make sure both mum and dad have been health checked, even if they are a little more money.Oh and always buy first generation crosses.
Oh and if you get one which doesn't shed, prepare to have them clipped every 6-8 weeks, especially if they go in water lots/ wet grass as otherwise their fur turns to dreadlocks and they smell a bit
Our girl:
Since we have got her, my dad's boss met her and fell in love with her and bought one as well and also my auntie absolutely loves her and fell in love with her temperment and they have just purchased one ready in a few weeks time.
Would just say, check to make sure both mum and dad have been health checked, even if they are a little more money.Oh and always buy first generation crosses.
Oh and if you get one which doesn't shed, prepare to have them clipped every 6-8 weeks, especially if they go in water lots/ wet grass as otherwise their fur turns to dreadlocks and they smell a bit
Our girl:
GeeGeeboy
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I have nothing against the dogs themselves but why do people continue to purchase mongrels (sorry, cockatoo or whatever poos!) for more money than a pedigree dog when there are thousands of unwanted cross breeds and mongrels in rescue centres?!?!!?
Cinnamontoast
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Tosh, sorry, both bits. Bred for the latest fashion as there are no guarantees of the dog being non-allergenic. The cross breed vitality bit absolutely incenses me. Beyond stupid to perpetrate that myth. Where's your proof? This particular cross, apart from accidental litters, is relatively recent, I'd say so recent that the first wave of them can't be much older than 6 or so. Prove what you say or don't post. This is not some idle part of the forum where regular posters don't know what they're talking about. There are very experienced people who will give you the correct info if you're willing to learn.
Thanks for that, was about to go off and find a decent quote re ratios of allergy free dogs from him!
Because its still the latest must have fashion accessory, like the Qashqai or suchlike.
Irrespective of type or breed, I would urge the OP to source a health tested (not vet checked!) set of parents, highly unlikely with designer cross breeds.
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helbe
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Thankyou for some positive feedback,pictures are good! sorry my question upset a few of the more uptight people on here!!
Had heard there could be some very rude and bitchy comments on most enquiries/questions.
Had heard there could be some very rude and bitchy comments on most enquiries/questions.
Cinnamontoast
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Always a good idea to get a feel of the forum before asking much. People on here get very inflamed about designer crosses, possibly because some of them work in rescues/vets and see the results of non health tested puppies.
The myth of allergy free dogs being invariably produced is, I hope, gradually dissipating, as per the William Conron quote.
If you're fixed on having this cross, please have a good look for health tested parents and keep a sharp eye out for puppy farmers and those purely out for profit.
The myth of allergy free dogs being invariably produced is, I hope, gradually dissipating, as per the William Conron quote.
If you're fixed on having this cross, please have a good look for health tested parents and keep a sharp eye out for puppy farmers and those purely out for profit.
xxMozlarxx
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Cinnamontoast
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Don't accuse me of bullying just because what you wrote is false. That is ridiculous!
The dander and hair shedding of a non allergenic cockerpoo is no lower than any other type that is not allergy free. Where on earth did you get your 'info' and why are you passing it on when you have no study with which to back up erroneous details?
Even the originator of the labradoodles said he only got 3/10 allergy free dogs in one litter. I suppose he was 'bullying' too?
The dander and hair shedding of a non allergenic cockerpoo is no lower than any other type that is not allergy free. Where on earth did you get your 'info' and why are you passing it on when you have no study with which to back up erroneous details?
Even the originator of the labradoodles said he only got 3/10 allergy free dogs in one litter. I suppose he was 'bullying' too? 
CAYLA
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I do love it when the old bullying is branded about when someone/anyone has an opionion other than, they look cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! get one!! thats because it is all anyone wants to hear!
Surely when you post asking for advice on a certain dog/breed, you would want to be educated on all aspects of that particular breed or x breed
If we all where to say, it has a cutesy name and looks cutesy (what good would that be)
apart from more dogs would be bought on a whim and more puppy mills would be racking it in
Imo, I ask, why? do you want it, then basically would advise going for a well bred poodle or a well bred cocker? as a cross they serve little to no purpose, esp given the ridiculous price tag and that is where the concern comes in from my point, in the mass production of them to satisfy joe publics need to have a dog with a kidified made up name thats hairy as hell
It does also horrify me that people purchase them then proceed to tell others........
"they are perfect for people with allergies" or "because they are X, they are healthier" or "they are pedigrees really" and this indeed is what a dog forum is for, for those with common sense and experience to better educate folk.
We have a puppy labradoodle handed in today £800 worth of dog and only 7 months old......matted and stinking to hell, originated from a puppy farm, has not been walked because she is too hyper and unmaneagable also bought as non shedding
I will post some pics after she has been shaved
Ps there are many variables in what people are allergic to in dogs, inc their saliva.
To the OP, we have had many a lab x poodle or cocker x poodle in our rescue and some have been lovely and just bought by idiots and sold by idiots and ending up in rescue through no fault of their own other than their name sake, the majority have been handed in because of their high energy levels, and I have to say we have had some with some crippling hip problems esp in the standard x's. So indeed make sure health tests (not checks) have been done, but still imo when breeding 2 completely different breeds like this then health tests are not going to be the same as 2 compatible breeds.
thats because it is all anyone wants to hear!Surely when you post asking for advice on a certain dog/breed, you would want to be educated on all aspects of that particular breed or x breed
If we all where to say, it has a cutesy name and looks cutesy (what good would that be)
apart from more dogs would be bought on a whim and more puppy mills would be racking it inImo, I ask, why? do you want it, then basically would advise going for a well bred poodle or a well bred cocker? as a cross they serve little to no purpose, esp given the ridiculous price tag and that is where the concern comes in from my point, in the mass production of them to satisfy joe publics need to have a dog with a kidified made up name thats hairy as hell
It does also horrify me that people purchase them then proceed to tell others........
"they are perfect for people with allergies" or "because they are X, they are healthier" or "they are pedigrees really"
and this indeed is what a dog forum is for, for those with common sense and experience to better educate folk.We have a puppy labradoodle handed in today £800 worth of dog and only 7 months old......matted and stinking to hell
, originated from a puppy farm, has not been walked because she is too hyper and unmaneagable also bought as non sheddingI will post some pics after she has been shaved
Ps there are many variables in what people are allergic to in dogs, inc their saliva.
To the OP, we have had many a lab x poodle or cocker x poodle in our rescue and some have been lovely and just bought by idiots and sold by idiots and ending up in rescue through no fault of their own other than their name sake, the majority have been handed in because of their high energy levels, and I have to say we have had some with some crippling hip problems esp in the standard x's. So indeed make sure health tests (not checks) have been done, but still imo when breeding 2 completely different breeds like this then health tests are not going to be the same as 2 compatible breeds.
Cinnamontoast
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Like ^^
Someone who works in a vet's AND a rescue! Score!
Someone who works in a vet's AND a rescue! Score!
Jake10
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It never ceases to amaze me when some people think that just because one dog is low dander/low shedding then all other dogs of the same cross must be too. Gene selection rarely works that way without human interference. I would never assume that all collie/springer crosses are very laid back/incredibly thick at times just because mine is. Though I often long for a slightly more intelligent model
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CAYLA
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Everyone who meets my akita loves her and comments on her beautiful coat and bear like appearance and her outstanding manners and fabulous nature. I to am a dog lover! would I be irrisponsible enough to never give a negative = (educational) comment about a breed of dog weather I own one or not (not on your life) the only thing that will suffer as a result (is the dog) who was/may not suitable for the purchaser based on my biased recommendations of my or anyone elses precious dog.