Anyone got a Irish Draft X thoroughbred????? Love to hear what they ar

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IDxTB?

Warmblood you mean???

Warmbloods were the best of ID's crossed with the best of TB's and then selectively bred by the Germans and Dutch to produce either great jumpers or great movers for dressage. I read a piece once by Paul Schokemohle who was laughing himself silly because of all the Brits flocking to pay megasums for horses that originated in Ireland and England by breeding. (I can copy it if anyone's interested, I still have it)

Can't beat the good old IDxTB as a great all-rounder. I have one as a hunter and he is fabulous (though also has a bit of shire, which I rate highly too). Idx's are currently also marketed as Irish Sports Horses, with a 50% uplift in the price!

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That isn't quite correct....

Warmblood just means a breed derived from a cross between a Hot blood (arab or TB normally) and a cold blood (draft breeds normally).

Therefore an IDxTB or CBxTB is a warmblood, but you could have a warmblood with no TB or ID in it!

ISH is a term for a horse entered in the ISH stud book, they are generally a cross between ID, TB, Connie or occasionally cob in varying quantities.

Dutch/danish/german warmbloods are Tbs crossed with the carriage and draft horses of those countries. Sometimes with other breeds like the ID added to help along the way.

Warmblood is a general term like cob and doesn't give you much clue about breeding, it is pretty meaningless on its own other than a description of type. Sport horse is similarly imprecise too, and ISH can be anything from about 14hh to 18hh and as heavy as a full ID or as light as a full TB.

They are both just fancy ways of saying cross breed so that you pay more money for them really
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not that there is anything wrong with warmbloods or sport horses.

So for the record an IDxTB can be both a warmblood and a sport horse, but IDxTB is a more meaningful and accurate way of describing them and personally I think they are one of the nicest crosses out there!
 
Quote of a conversation in 1998:

Gert Van der Veen, KWPN studbook manager:

When you want to talk about horse breeding in this country (the Netherlands) you have to look back at the 19th century because that is when the change started. Before that there were Spanish horses and baroque horses, of which the Friesians and the Lippizaners are the last descendents. In the 19th centruy horses on the Eupropean continent were crossed with English horses nad that was the beginning of horse breeding as it is today. English horse breeding has changed all of West European horse breeding. The fact that the King of England was also King of Hanover played and important role. That is how English horses came to Hanover, and later to Holstein and Oldenburg. The cradle of today's breeding stood in England. However, English horses used for continental breedign purposes were mainly Yorkshire coach horses, not riding horses.
(edit, and what's the betting they were IDx??)

Werner Schokemohle (brother of Paul):

The purposeful breeding of sport horses started around 1965, not before. Not a single breeder dreamed of future sport performances. Sport horses came from Ireland. They were delightful super jumping horses, and pure crosses. Seven eighth thoroughbred and one eighth Draft horse.

Seems even the contintental carriage horses were originally from Yorkshire and the later sport horses from Ireland.
 
There isn't really a set stereotype for an ID x TB. My mare had very similiar breeding lines to that of my gelding but was poles apart in terms of character and ability. The theory is that you have a horse with the stamina and calmness of an ID mixed with the blood and spirit of a TB. Doesn't always quite work like that! As a general rule of thumb, the ISH would be my first choice although I am not a great fan of their actual warmblood crosses (although I accept that - theoretically at least, Id x TB is a warmblood).
 
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