anyone had success with joinup?

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as title says really. am interested in doing it with my rebelleous gelding, and would like to know how effective it is, or if it is a load of "coswollop".
 
I suggest you watch it being done and judge for yourself
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I've heard it is good - we tried it with our Dales mare, who would pretend to submit then go mad. We decided it is easier to let her be in charge!!

Geldings would probably take to it best (although I'm no expert I hasten to add!)

Agree with jinglejoys - go along to a demonstration if you can - it's very interesting, even if you decide not to do it.
 
I always like to do these little "trust exercises with any new horse before I ride it .


Also started doing it with missy before the box rest and she really responded to it .


So yes I think its a good thing
 
never tried join-up, but my horse is totally attatched to me! he is totally unaffectionate, and is a moody sod, but he follows me EVERYWHERE! hes an oddball really!hes a sweety on his own, but pretends hes all hard the rest of the time - hes not!!! - today i let him out in the field, (after spending all afternoon with him, riding, grooming, washing and getting ready for HT tomorrow) and he stood around with me, i walked away, he followed, then jogged, he trotted, and he followed me over a log, and up a step onto a bank and off again!i must've looked like a right wally!!hes very trusting now!never used to be though - which is why we had such a hard time eventing last year i think!you thinking about trying it with tara??
 
We do it with all of them, but use the term 'join up' loosely as we do our own version really!
Only do it with horse who are unlikely to jump out!
 
I've done it with my own horse, but I don't have a round pen. I could only use an arena or small paddock. It does work and learning the body language of a horse really lets you get closer to them and it has also saved me a few times in the field - even horses you've never dealth with will understand the aggressive pose and will stay well clear!
 
Mares usually take longer to submit but geldings can be a handful too. Mine jumped out of the school yesterday when my trainer tried to do join up with him, even though I have done it sucessfully myself in a more secure environment. If your gelding is at all likely to jump out of the arena I suggest finding someone with a round pen or do join up in an indoor school at the very least.
 
I doubt I would get as far as I do with some the horses I work with without 'joining up' I start horses with this as to establish the pecking order, Once the horse has accepted you are in charge, things can really take off from there. I plan on breaking a little flighty checky mare like this soon, once they have submitted to you, happily standing with you, They will accept things like weight on there back, this way there not restricted and letting things on thier back out of free will. Half my troubles with Dermot were sorted once he clicked I was leader, because although he never tried to be boss nor did he accept me as boss which is a pig when your trying to give commands *Even picking up hoofs could resort in him tanking off pre joining up* Regards to where.... I put up a circle ring from electirc fenecing. If you are going to 'join up' it's counterproductive to then forget understanding his laungage.
 
thanks.
im thinking about doing it with Harry, my little pony thats a grumpy sod and bucks when ridden (no, hes not in pain, 101% sure of that as he has had every check possible!). Hes strange- if you go into the field and run he will follow you, but not in an affectionate way- just because he wants to play. so i think he may be the type who would do well with it. He doesnt jump out over the xcountry fences we have in the fence line so i dont think he would jump out. thanks for all the help.
 
I use this with my horse. Once I had the body language correct it was pretty instinctive for him to 'join up' with me. You need to believe and be confident in your body language though - An assertive stance to send the horse away. Passive, rounded shoulders looking away from the horse to encourage it to follow you.
In order to start doing this I recommend watching a video or getting someone to show you. Personally I do a lot of parelli work with my horse and I prefer that. (More variety/interest). Parelli also works on the principle that horses move away from pressure. Hence you can use the groundwork to help them understand ridden aids.
If your horse does not respect you and your body language that is when it is unlikely to work.
Good luck...It's a great thing to do.
 
I think its fantastic but some horses take to it better and quicker than others. My old coloured joined up nearly as quickly as he went away with me, literally about 3minutes. But my psycho nutter eventer i had still didnt after half an hour and i gave up, he was beyond help really and it took me 3attempts before he started to even show signs of responding - he really was detached from humans.
Rock is like my coloured, joins up before i even have time to do a circuit practically.

I think its really good to cement your relationship and gain trust and also in bolshy horses to remind them whose boss.

Just do it in an enclosed arena - i did it in an out door lunge pen and my horse jumped out! oops.
 
I have never done it but Bruce follows me around the yard I can untack him, hose him off and he will follow me back to his box....

?!?!!

Scared if I join up he will try and follow me home!
 
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