Anyone heard of this campsite? Banning certain breeds ect

[dogatemysalad]

Would you camp there if they banned a certain race? No? Same thing, banning entire breeds on looks alone. Total idiots.

How sensible. I'd certainly take the children to play with a couple of unknown pit bulls. Whether you like it or not, some breeds present a higher risk to the general public.

 

[bonny]

Just reading the Scottish news today and a man has been attacked by his own dog, a staffy x and at the bottom of the page were 3 other recent dog attack stories so I looked at them all. One was a child attacked by a pitbull, one a woman and child attacked by a staffy in a park and the last one was 3 women attacked by a staffy and a mastiff. See any connection ? Not very scientific I know but that was 4 stories on the one page. There are far too many people being attacked as well as dogs and if a campsite owner wants to ban certain breeds I would certainly support him all the way.

 

[lexiedhb]

How sensible. I'd certainly take the children to play with a couple of unknown pit bulls. Whether you like it or not, some breeds present a higher risk to the general public.

ummm no not imo. Terrorists tend to be a certain race and/or religion are you discriminatory against all? You can not judge an entire breed/ race purley on looks alone, that what is nonsensical.

 

[lastchancer]

Being realistic, how does a campsite owner find the time to work out if a Stafford is completely reliable ? I've had staffs, I love them, but once their jaw locks onto something,it's a bit more difficult to open than a border terrier. You choose the breed and you know it's characteristics. Temperament may be fab, but how should the public know ?

Exactly. Why should anyone have to use their kids to ascertain if someone else's dog is safe or not.
The people who get savaged by pitbulls and staffies are nearly always the owners or kids associated with the owners. They always, always say that the dog was previously of good temperament. Yes perhaps staffies are unfairly discriminated against, but there is a reason for that.

Lexiedhb - you obviously are a Staffie owner, have you ever had to try and prise one off another dog/child? Not yours, as presumably yours are sensible and well bought up - but I'm just wondering if you've ever had to deal with one that has turned nasty? Because even die hard Staffie people will readily admit that these dogs can be very dangerous due to the strength and determination that they demonstrate when they bite.

Comparing different breeds of dog to different races of human is ludicrous and only highlights your ignorance.

 

[lexiedhb]

Er staffies are not banned from this campsite so I have no idea what they have to do with this? And im the ignorant one?

 

[Moomin1]

It's a myth that Staffies and pits 'lock' their jaw.

 

[dogatemysalad]

It's a myth that Staffies and pits 'lock' their jaw.

So we're told, however that just not change the fact that certain breeds have been bred to fight or to guard and instictively hold on to their prey until it is dead. Other breeds are bred to hold prey softly so as to not break the skin.
Have you ever tried to get a Staffie's jaw off a dog ? My dog was nearly killed by one and it was the most horrific experience. In desperation, finally,my OH had to get some wooden step ladders and ram it down on the staffies head to save the dog. We could not get the Staff to open its jaw by any other method, it was so focused on hanging on. The Staffie was unhurt, the terrier was near death and the scene resembled an abbatoir.
Have you witnessed a Rotwelllier X bull dog kill 3 pregnant cows in minutes ? I have, throats ripped open and one had its stomach ripped open. The owners' screams got a group of workman running to help but they were powerless to stop the attack.
If people don't think some breeds of dog don't pose a higher risk to the public than other breeds then they're living in fantasy land and really shouldn't own such powerful dogs.

That's not to say that many of these dogs aren't wonderfully socialised and well trained, but only an idiot would deny the instincts of these types of dog. My father bred Mastiffs and German Shepherds and he'd never have sold one to someone who wasn't aware of the responsibility comes with owning certain types.

 

[Moomin1]

So we're told, however that just not change the fact that certain breeds have been bred to fight or to guard and instictively hold on to their prey until it is dead. Other breeds are bred to hold prey softly so as to not break the skin.
Have you ever tried to get a Staffie's jaw off a dog ? My dog was nearly killed by one and it was the most horrific experience. In desperation, finally,my OH had to get some wooden step ladders and ram it down on the staffies head to save the dog. We could not get the Staff to open its jaw by any other method, it was so focused on hanging on. The Staffie was unhurt, the terrier was near death and the scene resembled an abbatoir.
Have you witnessed a Rotwelllier X bull dog kill 3 pregnant cows in minutes ? I have, throats ripped open and one had its stomach ripped open. The owners' screams got a group of workman running to help but they were powerless to stop the attack.
If people don't think some breeds of dog don't pose a higher risk to the public than other breeds then they're living in fantasy land and really shouldn't own such powerful dogs.

That's not to say that many of these dogs aren't wonderfully socialised and well trained, but only an idiot would deny the instincts of these types of dog. My father bred Mastiffs and German Shepherds and he'd never have sold one to someone who wasn't aware of the responsibility comes with owning certain types.

I've witnessed many many incidents with different breeds of dogs.

I didn't say I didn't agree that certain breeds pose more risk should they attack, I was just pointing out that pits don't lock their jaw. ;-)

 

[lexiedhb]

Still this campsite does not ban staffies..........

 

[lastchancer]

Exactly. Why should anyone have to use their kids to ascertain if someone else's dog is safe or not.
The people who get savaged by pitbulls and staffies are nearly always the owners or kids associated with the owners. They always, always say that the dog was previously of good temperament. Yes perhaps staffies are unfairly discriminated against, but there is a reason for that.

Lexiedhb - you obviously are a Staffie owner, have you ever had to try and prise one off another dog/child? Not yours, as presumably yours are sensible and well bought up - but I'm just wondering if you've ever had to deal with one that has turned nasty? Because even die hard Staffie people will readily admit that these dogs can be very dangerous due to the strength and determination that they demonstrate when they bite.

Comparing different breeds of dog to different races of human is ludicrous and only highlights your ignorance.

Er staffies are not banned from this campsite so I have no idea what they have to do with this? And im the ignorant one?

Still this campsite does not ban staffies..........

I didn't say that Staffies are banned from this particular campsite - someone else mentioned staffies, and personally I wouldn't want one playing with my kids unless it was one we already knew well. The problem with staffies is often the deluded owners, a point which you are illustrating beautifully.

Are you going to answer the question or just post snide replies? Have you had to deal with a staffie/pitbull that is attacking someone or something?

 

[lexiedhb]

I didn't say that Staffies are banned from this particular campsite - someone else mentioned staffies, and personally I wouldn't want one playing with my kids unless it was one we already knew well. The problem with staffies is often the deluded owners, a point which you are illustrating beautifully.

Are you going to answer the question or just post snide replies? Have you had to deal with a staffie/pitbull that is attacking someone or something?

Are you just going to continue to be rude and name call?

Sorry what question? I was just saying all this about staffies is irrelevant to the OP, as they are not banned from this campsite, so its just another chance to bash the breed. Yes I have had to break up 1 dog fight in my time involving a staff- staff V's JRT and I can tell ya that JRT held on for dear life, in this case the staff came off worse, partly I think due to the jrt being tugged off, so tearing occurred. No it was not easy but then I would never expect a dog fight to be easy to split, if the two dogs meant it. Im not saying that staffs are not capable of causing damage, or that they are not tenacious. Dont lump staffies in with banned breeds.....

I wouldnt let my kids play with ANY breed of dog unless I knew that dog well- who would?

 

[TP123]

There will unfortunately always be bad irresponsible dog owners and these people will be drawn to the "fashionable" breed of the time.
We have been here with GSD's, Dobermans, Rotties and now bull breeds. It doesn't matter what breed of dog these people have they are likely to end up with confused, under socialised dogs with anti social tendancies.
Until something is done to make buying and owning a dog come with some responsibility there are always going to be problems.
I don't have the answer but am sick to death of staffords being bad mouthed and singled out for bad press.
I see plenty of bad behaviour from dogs while walking my very well behaved staffx but i am aware enough to know it is the inadequacies of the person holding the lead not the genetic make up of the one wearing the collar that has caused these problems.
I shall continue to walk my dog with pride and ignore the small minded folk who could do better than believe the junk they read in the red tops is the truth and the whole truth!