anyone know of anyone wanting a tb stallion?

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hi guys, my friend has had no luck selling her little stallion and as a last resort is going to take him to reading sales on friday. i have ridden him and help look afer him so id love it if he could find a lovely home, bit worried about where he may end up through the sales but she has no choice
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Does anyone know of anyone looking for a horse like this? He's a 15.3 tb only 3 and bay roan. he is backed and was very quiet and has been turned away now. he has such a sweet temperament, i really wish i could have him!!!! Has anyone had experience of selling horses through reading, like the kind of people that are there buying? Is he likely to go for decent money?

On the plus side iv finally found the perfect loan home for bailey while i am away travelling - very local, lovely people looking for a PC allrounder. Such a massive weight off my mind, can just look forward to my trip now
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I am sure if she gelded him a lot more people would be interested. There are many yards who would not entertain having a stallion so already she is closing down numerous potential homes.

Try get her to hold onto him, get him castrated and I am sure she will find a suitable home.

Best wishes x
 
Reading......really?
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You need to tell her, he will end up in a low life dealer yard sold on as a quiet hack after a hefty dose of sedalin.
If she gives a damn, geld him and then sell him on! If not and she just wants shot of him, I know 3 seperate PROPER people that would take him on.
 
hiya, who are the people you know who may be interested? I know she doesnt want to give him away, but would let him go for as little as £1000. its not that she doesnt give a damn she wants a good home for him but just needs a quick sale and could do with a bit of money for him too
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TBH, unless he has amazing breeding and confirmation he needs to be gelded. She is highly unlikely to find anyone wanting to pay £1000 for an unproven TB, particularly at a sales like Reading. As others have said her best option would be to have him gelded which will open her market right up and she should then be able to find him a nice home if he's as sweet as you say.
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He has perfect confimation and is very well breed he has been kept a stallion as he is very easy to handle and is said to hold the coloured jean hence not wanting to wip them off. I think its a lack of proper horsey people out there! people hear 3year old tb and stallion and poo their pants. She broke him with no troubles at all and he was kept on a very busy livery yard with mares and geldings with daily turn out, he was kept like any other horse. She also has one of the other horse breed by the same people and he is now a 9year old working inter and a real super star hence the purchase of the little man but due to the sale of her yard and stuff she now has to get rid. it really is sad
 
There are lots of Coloured TBs now its a massive thing horse and hound did a massive spead on coloured tbs a few months ago - although he has not covered so it is not proven but this is said by the breeders and the research into coloured tbs says with his markings he should.
 
Sorry but he needs gelding, colour means nothing!! I bet he doesn't have a show performance record either.

No people aren't pooing their pants about a stallion - nobody wants them if they aren't really well bred and with a good show record. Common sense tells you that.

He will sell so much easier without his bits and if she really cares about him then that's what she would do.

And for the record yes I have handled stallions, my mare is kept on livery at a private stud
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I thought coloured genes like tobiano were dominant so if he carried it, it would show and he would be coloured.

Example here
http://www.angrovestud.com/stud-stallions.html

I suppose he could be Sabino which would cause white markings on the face and legs and possibly roaning but I don't that's especially rare or sought after.

Either way if there is something special about his colour genetics then your friend should have him tested and market him on that basis.

Otherwise geld him - it's what will happen as soon as someone buys him cheap.
 
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Sorry but he needs gelding, colour means nothing!! I bet he doesn't have a show performance record either.

No people aren't pooing their pants about a stallion - nobody wants them if they aren't really well bred and with a good show record. Common sense tells you that.

And for the record yes I have handled stallions, my m
are is kept on livery at a private stud
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Did you read??? he is 3 years old he has his whole life ahead of him, surley if thats how people thought nothing would be kept as a stallion as nothing is born with a show record????

If as Suzie says he has great conformation and is easy to handle why not keep him with his bits???

And I really think some poeple on here should wind it in maybe she does really care for him but it takes time and money to have somehting cut maybe there is more to it and she dose not have time or money but just wants a really nice home for him?????

Also I can agree on the whole stallion thing I have one and so many idiots wont have him in the field next to their horse be it a mare or gelding yet my boy is fine being turned out with geldings and next to mares with normal fencing.
 
Unfortunately well put together TB's are ten a penny at the moment so she will be lucky to get anything for him, we have just been GIVEN 3 WINNING TB broodmares who's foals have previosly made good money at the sales as there is just no market for them. I echo what others have said geld him and then try and sell him, sorry.
 
without going into a long and boring rant on genetics, it is possible to test whether a horse is homozygous ("pure"genes) or heterozygous for the coloured gene so this could be determined if it is a big thing for the horse to breed coloured foals??
 
I think if we go back to they orginal post it was more a case of does anyone know anyone who would like him to buy or has anyone had any experience with reading sales? not the ifs buts and maybes of colour, breed or genes, I think as always people jumped on the negative and rarrr rahhhh get him cut! tbs cant be coloured! lol............ education is second to non as always
 
Relevant surely as that's supposed to be the reason why he's been kept entire ? Why would anyone want a stallion unless to use for breeding ? Selling a unreg stallion at Reading sales is asking for him to end up in the wrong home - hence questions about his breeding and possible gelding
 
A tb that has 75% registered blood can race, so if the coloured gene is there in the 25% then in theory a coloured racehorse appears. Only it's all a gimmick, and the racing world values performance and proven history above a pretty colour.
Many won't touch one with lots of white anyway. Old bad luck theory!
Its a poor and brainless excuse to keep a horse entire and still unwanted IMO.
If she really believes the horse will be wanted among the racing world then enter him at Ascot. They have horses by the top stallions making minimum bids each month, Sadler's Wells mares too, his stud fee was well over 100k.
I get really annoyed about the 'lack of proper horsey people' comment. Perhaps there are more considerate,caring and responsible people about who think your friend is being thoughtless than you realise.
And he's a colt. He's three years old. Grrrrrr.
 
thanks guys but i think this is all straying a bit far from the original question! I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience of selling through reading, or if there was anyone who might like him. I did not want to start a debate on whether tb's can be coloured, or whether or not a stallion should be kept entire!

I only briefly mentioned the coloured thing, and not in the OP at all!! Basically his owner was told by an experienced breeder that due to his markings he should throw coloured foals. However as he's not covered yet this is unproven obviously. It is not the reason he is entire, nor is it his selling point.

He was brought as his owner had her own yard and the time to bring him on and make him into a lovely riding horse. He has been kept entire as there has been no reason for him not to be yet. He was quiet to break and his manners are impeccable. She never ruled out gelding him but as he's so quiet she was hoping to keep some of the presence and appearance of a stallion. Circummstances have changed and therefore he needs to go. She needs a quick sale as his field companion has been sold.
 
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I think if we go back to they orginal post it was more a case of does anyone know anyone who would like him to buy or has anyone had any experience with reading sales? not the ifs buts and maybes of colour, breed or genes, I think as always people jumped on the negative and rarrr rahhhh get him cut! tbs cant be coloured! lol............ education is second to non as always

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Ok, i'll reply to that. No, I don't know anyone who would want a 3 year old tb colt that isn't a racehorse. And i'll say as above, if she thinks he is worth keeping him entire take him to Ascot where people are more keyed up to tb colts. Not a general horse sale.
Asking for opinions on a forum means you may possibly get an opinion in return. Have a nice day!
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he's tb but that doesnt mean he is only of interest to racing people though surely? He was brought as his owner brought another TB off the same breeders who is now a lovely dressage horse, this one has never been intended for racing, just a nice ridden career, whether kept entire or not. And yes, he's 3 so technically a colt, but as he's backed and ready to bring on i referred to him as a stallion - my mistake
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yes i asked for opinions but not actually on the issue on which you are giving an opinion!! As i said, its not my horse at the end of the day i just want to see him go to a nice home.
 
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So how is he bred then ? If he's a reg tb capable of breeding coloured foals I'll eat my pc !

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You won't want to look at the thoroughbred stallion I Was Framed then as he is coloured and he is producing coloured thoroughbred foals which are all registered with Weatherbys and eligible to race?

Angrove will be able to tell you far more about coloured thoroughbreds than I can, you should ask them as I think you could be in for indigestion!
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To OP, perhaps Reading, like so many other places, is not the best place to sell him. If your friend can wait until the next Ascot or Malvern sales, I think they would be better. ATM though, I can't see her getting much for him as he is which is a shame if he is such a gent but I can understand the liability with where to keep him if the buyer needs livery, not so bad if it's your own place.
 
If a nice home is the priority then he wouldn't end up at Reading sales ...and he would be gelded, you've yet to convince anyone of a reason why he wouldn't be better off that way. I take it you're not going to tell us how he's bred ?
 
I was talking about this particular colt, I know people are trying to breed coloured racehorses although as far as I know none have raced to date ?
 
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yes i asked for opinions but not actually on the issue on which you are giving an opinion!! As i said, its not my horse at the end of the day i just want to see him go to a nice home.

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Having given an opinion on Reading, and why a tb colt may not be selling I'll leave it there.
You and the owner obviously have your own ideas so I fail to see what can be added. Good luck in selling him.
I hope he goes to a nice home too, and not one who puts him in another sale. Or is that another opinion that I shouldn't be giving!
 
it says a few threads ago who he is by, means nothing at all to me as i dont particularly know my tb's!i suggested to her myself it would be easier to sell him if he were gelded i happen to agree with everyone on that point
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however the situation is the way it is, he is the way he is and thats how he needs to be sold. Only reason for the rush is that his owner had her own livery yard which she sold so now he is turned away with another horse. the other horse is going off to a new home as shes sold him to a lovely lady, so now the colt/stallion whatever is going to be by himself - hence the idea of taking him to the sales. no time to geld obviously, and she cant afford to have him in livery really if she can avoid it.
 
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