anyone not totally sick of looking at hooves?

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I'd appreciate your thoughts. Shoes off ten days ago. Hope the sizes aren't crazy, I only have photobucket on my phone.
 
Well its early days and they will change a lot, the hinds are very bullnosed, I will leave the more experienced to comment further!
Lucy P will come along and advise you, she loves hoof pics they are like "porn" to her! lol
 
Ha ha I can see how that happens - poor deans must think I've lost all interest in him as a person, so busy staring at his feet on our walk tonight that I hardly even chatted to the poor soul!
Thanks :)
 
ooh lots of changes will occur I vote ;)

the first set of frogs were nice :) guessing hinds?

All four feet look quite flat rather than concave which would go with his diagnosis (think he had reverse pedal bone rotation)? and also be partly why he will be a bit sore for longer. DW though Frank's were flat and are now concave.

In front I think you will probably start to get a steeper angle of growth that matches the pastern more closely and will also bring the heel back.

Re the hinds, ditto they are very bullnosed (probably because the pedal bone is pushing the horn out in the wrong direction because of where it is). I know that CPtrayes thinks that lots of bull nosing is metabolic but Frank's did seem to resolve normally.
 
Yes the happy looking frogs are the hind feet. Don't know why they've come out in a weird order! Thanks.

He had xrays at christmas oberon, not since then... why?
 
It could be my screen, but it appears that there are wildly differing heel heights from one side to the other? Forgive me for not knowing the horses history and what you're doing with him but, looking at the head on shot and the way the weight falls through the outside of the foot (drop a straight line down through the fetlock joint) I would want this addressed to prevent further strain on the collateral ligament.
 
Hi thanks sally. How would you address something like this? I have a very highly recommended trimmer coming in june - is that too late? or is it a vet job rather than a trimming issue?
 
Emilieu said:
Hi thanks sally. How would you address something like this? I have a very highly recommended trimmer coming in june - is that too late? or is it a vet job rather than a trimming issue?
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Get the horse walking over surfaces that he is happy on and wait for the trimmer to look at him. If you try to make everything 'perfect' too quickly, you can make the horse foot sore.
 
It is a question of getting a farrier or trimmer who has a thorough understanding of skeletal alignment to assess the horse as a whole and trim the feet accordingly. If the horses limbs are naturally straight, but the differing heels heights are causing twists and distortions then the medial / lateral balance needs to be addressed a.s.a.p. As I say, I don't know your horses history but if he has been barefoot for a while and this is the foot balance he has worn for himself and is comfortable with because of wonky confirmation then problems could be caused if you tried to "straighten him up".
 
Thanks faracat :) he is now happily stomping out on tarmac in his boots and belting round the field bare. We are doing an inhand hack / long reining in the school as often as we can. He seems happy :)
 
Hi sally - less than two weeks bare and he hasn't seen a trimmer yet. I'll make sure to ask about this. The remedial farrier said his front feet are unlikely to ever match due to his conformation
 
Wow! The back of the foot in the hinds is eye-wateringly weak. Looks like you also have both true bullnosing and a dumped toe where the farrier's rasped the bottom of the hoof wall. Looks like it's already starting to respond to the new stimulation however, so keep it up :).

The fronts are also very weak, and that's an extreme new angle they're trying to grow at! Has the horse had laminitis at all?

I also agree that there are some medio-lateral imbalances, but as Faracat said, it's probably best to get the horse moving and see what he wants to do with the hooves before making any dramatic changes.

Keep up the good work!
 
That doesn't look like bullnosing on the hind hooves to me, it looks like the farrier has been overhandy with his rasp and taken away a large amount of the front wall of the hind hooves. You can see at the lower edge of the hooves where the paler colour is showing through from the water line just how much has been removed. He was probably trying to stop the horse forging or pulling off his front shoes by setting back the hind shoes. It will grow out.
 
Hi Gloi that would sound right, he is a renowned shoe pulled and farrier warned me he'd never keep the shoes that the remedial farrier wanted on him.
 
Emilieu said:
Hi Gloi that would sound right, he is a renowned shoe pulled and farrier warned me he'd never keep the shoes that the remedial farrier wanted on him.
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Did anyone mention that the reason he pulled shoes all the time, was because his fore hooves were so badly balanced?
 
But they're *so* bullnosed that I don't think it can be just a dumped toe - my guess would be that there's true bullnosing at play as well, but it is just a guess. True bullnosing often accompanies a very weak caudal hoof ime.
 
Emilieu said:
Thanks faracat :) he is now happily stomping out on tarmac in his boots and belting round the field bare. We are doing an inhand hack / long reining in the school as often as we can. He seems happy :)
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This is excellent news :D If nothing else, he has no shoes on and is coping fine - so think back to a few weeks ago when vet and farrier were saying he wouldn't cope at all? You've found a way of making it work!

Agreed they have a long way to go, but what you're doing with him will be helping :) And he has better frogs at the back than my lad does ;) They'll certainly help!
 
I'm pretty chuffed brightbay :)

He galloped over to me right onto the stoney hard standing at the gate the other day without breaking stride :D gave him into trouble for that tho! I was shouting 'not without your boots!!!' He ignored me. Early days but getting better every day.
 
Lol just seen your post on the vets discuss barefoot thread faracat. I had to work hard not to roll my eyes at this phrase on several occasions!
So far so good mj... hooves crossed :D
 
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