Anyone recognise this brand? (pony)

Lucky Snowball said:
A DHP must be sired by a registered stallion running on the moor. These stallions have to be inspected by the DHP Association for type and size. The dam must also belong to a registered Commoner and be of suitable type to live on the moor. The DHP foal must be born on the moor.
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Do Commoners have to be members of the DHP Association? If they have commoners rights they can run what they like on Dartmoor and sell it as a Dartmoor Hill Pony, can't they?

I can't see anything on the DHP Association website about stallion inspection or size requirements.
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Commoners do not have to belong to the DHP Association. Stallions must be inspected. Any breeds or crosses and any colour are acceptable but ponies must not exceed 12.2hh. The established herds can be traced back many generations. As with anything horsey there are those who bend the rules, however unsuitable animals are rounded up and impounded.
 
Lucky Snowball said:
Commoners do not have to belong to the DHP Association. Stallions must be inspected. Any breeds or crosses and any colour are acceptable but ponies must not exceed 12.2hh. The established herds can be traced back many generations. As with anything horsey there are those who bend the rules, however unsuitable animals are rounded up and impounded.
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So if a Commoner doesn't belong to the DHP who's going to inspect the stallion and check the heights of those ponies? Who has the right to round up another commoner's ponies if that Commoner doesn't belong to the DHP? Is it illegal for a commoner to run ponies on Dartmoor unless they are a member of the DHP?

I'm very confused, I always thought Dartmoor hill ponies could be any old mongrel. Even the DHP website doesn't mention height limits or stallion licencing, as far as I can see.
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I don't think I'm any clearer about whether mongrel ponies can be bred by commoners on Dartmoor and I can't find anything online that makes it any clearer. I can't find any reference anywhere to licencing DHP stallions but there are suggestions that as well as ponies registered as pure bred Dartmoor and ponies registered as DHP there are both Dartmoor Hill Ponies which are unregistered mongrels and some pure Shetland herds.

If anyone from Dartmoor knows what the actual situation is, it would be great to know!
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Not a Dartmoor person, but an Exmoor pony person, and from my knowledge there are 3 types of Dartmoor Pony.
1 - the Purebred. From registered parents &registered in the main studbook.
2 - the Heritage. From non registered, but clearly Dartmoor type. Fits the breed standard aside from registration & noted with a passport from the Dartmoor Pony Society, but in Section X (that's what we call it for Exmoors)
3 - the Hill Pony. From parantage not regulated, no studbook. Historically can be from any random breed / stock run on.
 
We’ve been rewatching “The Edwardian Farm” (now on Amazon) and they got a DHP off Dartmoor, branded with a T and the credits definitely thanks Dartmoor Hill Pony Society rather than DPS (despite all those rounded up being bay).

DH asked about who controls/owns them but I had to admit my knowledge is New Forest based so I had no idea!
 
ycbm said:
I don't think I'm any clearer about whether mongrel ponies can be bred by commoners on Dartmoor and I can't find anything online that makes it any clearer. I can't find any reference anywhere to licencing DHP stallions but there are suggestions that as well as ponies registered as pure bred Dartmoor and ponies registered as DHP there are both Dartmoor Hill Ponies which are unregistered mongrels and some pure Shetland herds.

If anyone from Dartmoor knows what the actual situation is, it would be great to know!
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I’ve brought moor born ponies off the drift sales and had them go up to 14hh. Definitely moor born, from the breeders who run a few stallions out there. The bigger ones used to make more money.

The DHP is basically anything with four legs that won’t die out there, I’ve seen ones with a Welsh trot, little tiny Shetland types, whacking great ponies that must have some Welsh C or NF in for the size, and people get really antsy if you start asking where the spotted patterns come from.

Nice ponies, but absolute mongrels.
 
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