Anyone remember my post on RC team debacle??

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Quick overview - I was asked to represent the RC team at the area qualfiers - then, having made all the necessary arrangements, I was told that 'some one else' (a friend of the organiser) wanted to do it, and I had to stand down... I kicked up a fuss (don't mind not being selected, but it is bad etiquette to ask someone, then a few weeks later say 'we don't need you, someone else wants to do it and she is my friend so she is doing it') and spoke to the chairman etc, who apologised for the behaviour of the selector (yet she is still the selector...???).

So, get my copy of the RC newsletter today, and guess what... the person who it was so important to get on the team, was then disqualified because her horses vaccinations were not up to date!! Had she not been disqualified the team stood a bloody good chance of qualifying (the scores were pretty low for the test I would have done, and I have recently done the same test at another venue and scored a higher % than the winner). I am not saying it would have happened again, but it has made me angry that the selector did not even bother to check the vaccinations of the 'team' horses.

Well, I guess at least something good came out of it all in the end (our new local riding club :) ) but it just goes to show what a shambles our local club is!
 
Karma!!

Have to say that I am surprised about the vacc's, as I joined a club and put us forward for teams ( well you never know) and had a call to say my vacc's 3 years ago were out of sync and please could I restart them all!!
 
Well they deserved that!

Anyway when I *finally* get to Suffolk I'm so pleased that I will be able to join the new and better RC :-)
 
zoeshiloh said:
It has taken all my will power not to compose a slightly sarcastic, gloaty email... At least the person organising the team a few years ago made absolutely certain that everyone had up to date jabs!
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Lol, I'd write a very conciliatory note saying how sorry you were to hear of their unfortunate time with their new team member misdemeanour's but you hoped to see them at the next qualifiers with your new club team. It would hurt far more than a gloat! ;):rolleyes:
 
Apologies for bringing up an older post, but I found this earlier and had to comment.

I know which club you are talking about (your posts make it quite easily identifiable) and am frankly saddened that you have negative things to say about the riding club in question.

To set a few facts straight

~The rider who was chosen above you is a friend of the selector, as much as anyone who is a member of the RC are friends. You can't go to a friendlier club, where everyone is welcoming. I'm a non riding member but am equally welcomed. The member who was selected above you, and the selector are good acquaintences because of the RC and see each other when the member represents the club. They do NOT socialise together outside of RC issues as the term "friend" makes it seem.

~The horse chosen was up to date on flu and tet jabs, this was checked prior to leaving. Unfortunatley what happened was beyond control and not something that the rider or selector thought to check (who'd blame them, I wouldn't have).
The horse has an FEI passport and jabs every 6 months. As a result the passport had been filled. The remaining jab dates were on a seperate sheet. This was with the passport at the time. The admin error was that one of the headings at the top of this sheet had not been fully filled in. Thus on technicality the sheet could not be proven to be linked to the passport.
So whilst the horse was fully up to date on jabs, it could not be 100% proven that sheet linked to that horse so the organisers could not allow it.

The team in question may still be going to championships due to the size of the area we compete in, they are waiting to find out. What is definite though is that the rider who replaced you IS going to championships as she is representing the RC in the pairs competition.

I find it sad that you have left such an active, friendly RC. You could not find a better, more supportive chairman. The chairman is willing to support any teams that come together, regardless of competition potential, he is willing to travel miles and frequently stay away from home so he can watch his teams at Championships.
He was INCREDIBLY supportive when his RC qualified for Olympia in 2008 for the Quadrille at their first attempt, and attended all of the meetings, offered his ideas and helped make costumes.
They also offer so many events for people who may not want to compete: open schooling sessions etc.

I am saddened you have not found the support or wealth of help that so many others have found at this RC, and am disappointed that it may resultedly have a bad name on this forum. I however, wish you all the best in setting up your new RC ... who knows, maybe we'll see you at a few championships next year ;)
 
Trolt said:
Apologies for bringing up an older post, but I found this earlier and had to comment.

I know which club you are talking about (your posts make it quite easily identifiable) and am frankly saddened that you have negative things to say about the riding club in question.

To set a few facts straight

~The rider who was chosen above you is a friend of the selector, as much as anyone who is a member of the RC are friends. You can't go to a friendlier club, where everyone is welcoming. I'm a non riding member but am equally welcomed. The member who was selected above you, and the selector are good acquaintences because of the RC and see each other when the member represents the club. They do NOT socialise together outside of RC issues as the term "friend" makes it seem.

~The horse chosen was up to date on flu and tet jabs, this was checked prior to leaving. Unfortunatley what happened was beyond control and not something that the rider or selector thought to check (who'd blame them, I wouldn't have).
The horse has an FEI passport and jabs every 6 months. As a result the passport had been filled. The remaining jab dates were on a seperate sheet. This was with the passport at the time. The admin error was that one of the headings at the top of this sheet had not been fully filled in. Thus on technicality the sheet could not be proven to be linked to the passport.
So whilst the horse was fully up to date on jabs, it could not be 100% proven that sheet linked to that horse so the organisers could not allow it.

The team in question may still be going to championships due to the size of the area we compete in, they are waiting to find out. What is definite though is that the rider who replaced you IS going to championships as she is representing the RC in the pairs competition.

I find it sad that you have left such an active, friendly RC. You could not find a better, more supportive chairman. The chairman is willing to support any teams that come together, regardless of competition potential, he is willing to travel miles and frequently stay away from home so he can watch his teams at Championships.
He was INCREDIBLY supportive when his RC qualified for Olympia in 2008 for the Quadrille at their first attempt, and attended all of the meetings, offered his ideas and helped make costumes.
They also offer so many events for people who may not want to compete: open schooling sessions etc.

I am saddened you have not found the support or wealth of help that so many others have found at this RC, and am disappointed that it may resultedly have a bad name on this forum. I however, wish you all the best in setting up your new RC ... who knows, maybe we'll see you at a few championships next year ;)
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How very eloquent. I was a member of the club in mention for a number of years, and must say that I have always found it exceptionally welcomming and friendly. It has only been due to other commitments that I had to sadly relinquish my membership, but have still kept in contact with a number of members, have attended a number of events and have always been very warmly welcomed. I too find it sad that the name of the club has been sullied on a forum like this as I have many fond memories.
 
Not that this RC has anything to do with me, am I right in thinking the OP WAS selected to ride as part of a team for this RC, then was asked to stand down because 'someone who knew the chairperson and wanted to compete' was given the go-ahead to do so regardless of OP? If that is the case, then OP has every right to be peeved off - friendly RC or not. Thats the point in this surely as the vacination situation is another matter all together as far as I see it.
But as I say, this RC is nothing to do with me, so iam butting out now.
Happy Days!!
 
That said, Trolt, it doesn't seem very friendly to ask someone to be on a team, them bump them off later when a better offer comes along... Our RC would send her as an individual in that case, or tell her she was on the shortlist for the team, rather than get someone's hopes up...
 
Ruthnmeg said:
Not that this RC has anything to do with me, am I right in thinking the OP WAS selected to ride as part of a team for this RC, then was asked to stand down because 'someone who knew the chairperson and wanted to compete' was given the go-ahead to do so regardless of OP? If that is the case, then OP has every right to be peeved off - friendly RC or not. Thats the point in this surely as the vacination situation is another matter all together as far as I see it.
But as I say, this RC is nothing to do with me, so iam butting out now.
Happy Days!!
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Hehe, no worries. I personally dont know about the specifics of the situation. Just know that I was seconding the post that the RC is a very firendly place to be and not as cliquey or bi**hey as perhaps would be made out.... Just my opinion too!!
 
I don't know the specifics on what the selector said to the OP.
I do however know that other teams seem to be selected on the basis of "ask what members are free to compete" so they can be put forward for consideration.
The selector then considers all variables, confirms with the members of the team that were chosen and thanks those who were put forward but aren't on the team for that occassion.

So perhaps it's just a case of miscommunication between the OP and the selector? Like I said don't know the specifics so can only speculate on past experience of other team selections.

Am not so worried about specifics (although did want to defent the jab case as that was unfortunate error as oppose to serious neglect on part of the selector) ... more wanted to correct the reputation of the RC :)
 
It may also be that the person selected is a more active member of the club (No idea s don't know which club it is) and that membership of teams is seen as a bit of a reward for effort in organising other things. If that is the case, then I hope the OP soon realises just how much work there is involved with being a committee member of any RC. There has to be some incentive for helping, usually thanklessly at endless shows, social rides, social evening, meetings (I could go on but will stop now :D)
 
Hiya,

First off I'm a member who had taken a lapse from this board due to well... real life and university getting in the way as it does. I'm saddened that it has taken to hearing about this to bring me back to posting.

I'd like to set some facts straight as to people in the area and people who are aware of the club will/could easily work out that this is me that the OP has pointed the topic at.

I am an active member of the club this is correct.... helping whenever possible and yes I am known to the members of the committee more than say some other members due to my role and involvement in the club successful Quadrille team, which keeps close relations with the committee and other members. We also make sure we play an active role within the club due to the great amount of support we receive.

This said, I would hate for the teams to be picked on favoritism and I doubt that is what took place. Secondly I'm not sure how the OP knows that it was myself that 'stole' her place.... especially as my willingness to take part in the open team was spoken of some time before 2 weeks prior to the event itself. (Two weeks prior I was approached and asked to take part in the riding test and took the spot of a horse that had sadly gone lame in the team of pairs.)

The flu/tet issue was not one which was out of date, it was an admin error as stated by a member previous. Something now raised with my vet and sorted in time for my involvement in the national champs at Lincoln in Sept :D.

Best of luck to the OP with their new club.... will be great to have another competitive club in the area. But I am saddened that it came to ill thoughts spoken about a club I hold dear and that is one of the most friendly I have found.
 
I have been following this from afar, and from what I read there were no names actually mentioned, and what the OP was "ranting" about was the behaviour surrounding the requests to take part then the reasons for the change. At no point did names get mentioned. It was purely a "grrr would you belive it post"

The only reason that I can think that this non post (because that is what it is) got dug back up is to create mischeif.

It is done, dead, gone....... people have moved on ... get over it......It really doesn't matter anymore.
 
agreed

its neither here nor there, happens all the time, what suits one does not necessarily suit another and it is normally how new clubs come about and the formation of new clubs is never a bad thing :)
 
Angua2 said:
I have been following this from afar, and from what I read there were no names actually mentioned, and what the OP was "ranting" about was the behaviour surrounding the requests to take part then the reasons for the change. At no point did names get mentioned. It was purely a "grrr would you belive it post"

The only reason that I can think that this non post (because that is what it is) got dug back up is to create mischeif.

It is done, dead, gone....... people have moved on ... get over it......It really doesn't matter anymore.
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I remember the original post and have been lurking on this thread.
I Know the RC in question and was saddened to read that it had all been dragged up again.
The RC in question is very reputable and I have always found members helpful and friendly.
Thank you Eventergirl87 and Trolt for setting the record straight.
I agree that no names were mentioned, but for those in this area, it was apparent which RC the OP was talking about.
I do hope the OP can now move on with her new RC and that no one complains about her selections on a public forum.
 
I am also very pleased that the record has been put straight. The OP does have a habit of running others down and then when they get a reaction or are corrected goes to ground.
 
cougar said:
I am also very pleased that the record has been put straight. The OP does have a habit of running others down and then when they get a reaction or are corrected goes to ground.
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The op has been like that for a long time on this and other boards.
 
Oh for goodness sake.

Get over it. This thread gets buried and then somebody insists on digging it up... dogs with rotten bones springs to mind.

MOVE ON..... for gods sake, everyone else has.

JUST LEAVE IT ALONE NOW..... it is very old and very boring
 
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