Firstly have either of you ridden in other treeless brands, and if so how did they compare? I have a HM Vogue and while I find it very comfortable and get on well with the position it puts me in, it slips a lot.
With the Quevis, do you need a much longer girth as the flaps are so short? I assume you need a dressage girth?
Do you feel the stirrup leathers? I used to have a Barefoot Cheyenne and always had to ride in long boots or the leathers rubbed my calves.
Do you have thigh blocks on yours, and do you feel them in trot?
I have tried Barefoot, Ghost, Dartmoor Treefree and I still have a Libra Hackabout-back in the day I've also ridden in a solution (over a decade ago though) and a Vogue. Out of all of the them I rated the Ghost and the Treefree best of all. The Ghost was pretty stable-way more stable than the Barefoot. The pony really hated the Ghost pad though so I used a polypad riser pod with it and a normal saddle cloth (he's very wide!) and an anotomical girth. Despite him taking a 17 inch treed with room to spare, the Ghost looked too big on him and a bit daft and yes, I found the thigh blocks annoying in trot so I sold it and found a treed for him. It was a nice saddle. If I were to go seriously treeless I would go for the Treefree Tor.
Hmm food for thought.
Can you remember how you felt position wise comparing the Vogue and Ghost? I have back problems which are exacerbated by most saddles except the Vogue.
I liked the Vogue but it wasnt the same pony and it was a fair while ago. The Ghost felt quite good-narrower twist than many treeless. you can trial them I think? I bought one secondhand-didnt lose any money on it.
Try and find a freedom holistic saddle, they are out there. Look just like a treed saddle, have detachable knee blocks and a narrow twist, which is much more back friendly than the barefoot. I am delighted with mine. Buffalo leather and very hard wearing. I have done everything in it including eventing.
I had a Vogue when I had my tank of a maxi cob. He loved it but because he was so wide it was a bit of a stretch for me. It also slipped a lot which was really annoying but this lad had no wither whatsoever. I felt really secure in it though. He was prone to a bit of a buck when he got excited and it was the only saddle he had that enabled me not care about that. I only sold it because it drowned my next horse - it was way too long for her. If they made a smaller size I would have seriously considered another one.
I also had a Torsion close contact and hated it (again because he was so flat and wide) but the horse loved it. It also slipped.
I rode my friends horse in a Sensation but the stirrup bars were so far back it crippled me and I couldn't get off.
I also had a HM Flexee which was a complete nightmare and slipped more than any other saddle I have had. It was also shimmed so much by the fitter I felt mile off the horse. I hated it.
Vogue and Ghost far more comfy than any of these.
The Quevis is a funny little thing but is very secure and comfortable. I tried it as it was recommended to me by a reputable chiropractor when my mare got too wide for her treed saddle. For the money it is a fabulous little saddle - very secure (my mare can be sharp for a cob) and comfortable. It has two positions for the leathers so you can sit correctly almost as you do in a vogue but I would prefer it if I could position them very slightly further back. Having said that I put in a pommel bolster and it is just about perfect now.
I use a professionals choice dressage girth with it and it is more stable that the Vogue but not as stable as a treed saddle on this cob. On her I have to make sure it is properly straight before I girth up. The girth is the same length I would use on any saddle with long girth straps but I could fit a longer one with no problem (maybe 28 rather than 26) but you don't want buckles under your legs. The thing I love is that you feel really close to the horse and I never got that with the Vogue. I also love that is so adjustable.
I haven't noticed the stirrup leathers rubbing so they are not a problem for me but the closed stirrup bars are a pain as I can't use my webbers.
The thigh blocks don't get in my way in rising trot but I don't rise high, if you do I think they will hit your thighs.
Position wise I think I would have preferred the Ghost on my big cob as it is a bit easier on the hips - it has more of a twist than the Vogue. Because my current horse is a bit narrower I prefer the Vogue but the problem with its size and it slipping all the time makes the ghost a better option for us. The vogue would slip on a spook but the Ghost doesn't if I have positioned it straight in the first place and I don't have to overtighten the girth.
The thing with the ghost saddles is that you can try them out for a small fee. I trialled it first but felt under no pressure to buy. Louise from Equine Whispers was very helpful with the fitting to the horse and adjustment for me. I made sure I did everything in it that I wanted to do and Equine Whispers gave me a bit more time as the weather was so awful.