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My sec D yearling has this scabby growth/lump (have attached pics think they are sideways! cant seem to rotate them!) it is on that vein between his cannon bone and his tendon on the side if his front leg,
I saw it last week and it was smaller I just thought it was a little cut so put some sudocream on it,
but its not, its like scabby dead skin but its all attached you cant really pull bits off, the whole lump is hard, it dosent hurt him when I touch it and he is sound
He has also always had a small thing like this on the bottom of his ear which kind if grew like a wart type thing and then fell off,
it has now grown back?
Its the one on his leg I am worried about though because of where it is, he also has a small one on his pastern on the same leg (last photo ignore the mud!)
I asked the vet ages ago about the ear thing and they said dont worry about it, it will probs fall off, which obviously it did, but this one is different on his leg
I am compleatly stumped!!! thought I would rack your brains??
any ideas??!!
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Will be interested in this as my mare, also coloured get these. They are bit scabby but not an injury and seem to be made up of scurfy skin and scabs. She has only has them on legs and they do go away in time but is bit wierd!

If you pull off all the hard scabby bits they do bleed slightly but seem to cause no pain, in time they just heal and go.
 
My Irish cob also has these...
Never caused us any problems and amazingly never had infection! But not been able to clear them up either...
No idea what causes it, but very common in cobby/feathered types!
Sorry not much use!:o
 
As I said on your post in vets, looks like mud fever.

Wash with hibiscrub/malaseb, leave on for 10 mins and then wash off. Dry well.
I also used Flamzine cream from the vet which was very effective.
 
You really need to get some treatment from your vet. If it takes hold, it can go pretty high up the leg and in the heels will cause lameness.
The cream from the vet isn't expensive, it could be false economy buying an over the counter treatment.
 
quirky said:
Thank you :)
I seem to be ignored :( in favour of people who have yet to identify what they think it is :confused:.

Think I'll give up and they can learn the hard way how bloody painful it can be for the horse :rolleyes:.
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Hi as I said before my Irish cob also gets this, have treated it as mudfever, and washing with hibiscrub etc. in his case its not worked, vet has seen it and said its not mud fever...
Also odd to have mudfever part way up leg as in pics without lots of inflammation and swelling?
 
becca_norrey said:
Hi as I said before my Irish cob also gets this, have treated it as mudfever, and washing with hibiscrub etc. in his case its not worked, vet has seen it and said its not mud fever...
Also odd to have mudfever part way up leg as in pics without lots of inflammation and swelling?
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Don't see mud fever, or vet mentioned in your earlier post :confused:.

No, not at all unusual to be higher up the leg, my horse had it up beyond his hocks. It is probably swollen because it is infected.

Have a read of this, it is quite useful and easy to understand :)

http://www.equine-world.co.uk/horses_care/mud_fever.htm
 
I think it might be a bit like rain scald/mud fever? Mine gets scabby at this time of year in random places over him when it's been mild and then wet as he's got a very thick winter coat and I think all that hair lets the bacteria get going in a nice warm place on the skin! I dampen them a bit to clean them up, dry very thoroughly and then apply aloe vera gel and usually after a day or two they come out gently with fingers or brush out when grooming.
 
Fungatrol is good for ridding horse of mud fever like this but you can also get ointment from your vet. Id also use hibiscrub like Quirky advised. Use diluted hibiscrub, rinse off, dry area and then smear with appropriate cream which helps loosen the scabs. Once the cream has been left on over night it is usually easy to get the scabs off. You should remove scabs to let oxygen in as oxygen kills dermatophilus bacteria.
 
becca_norrey said:
Hi as I said before my Irish cob also gets this, have treated it as mudfever, and washing with hibiscrub etc. in his case its not worked, vet has seen it and said its not mud fever...
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If I was you I would be asking your vet to take some skin scrapings and find out exactly what is causing the problem.
Over the counter lotions and potions rarely work. I would definately stick with a prescription only medicine(POM). My hairy cobs are prone to itchy scabby legs, I've had great results with Malaseb, Flamazine and mite injections. However, it is an on-going battle and needs very careful management/maintenance.
 
He's in 22hour a day at the moment, fields still very dry and still has scabs, yep it is an ongoing problem, but they come and go, don't cause him any discomfort etc. have tried numerous creams which haven't worked, unless they start presenting problems I'm keeping an eye on them and theres no problems...

Am not saying OP's horse doesn't have mud fever am just putting across my experience with similar symptoms :o
 
It's not like mud fever though, as I'v dealth with that in the past, my mare doesn't have hairy legs (WB) and had this more over summer, it isn't itchy and no pain.

I did wonder if there was something in the grass causing it, but as yours in in mostly at the moment then probabaly not.
 
It looks like harvest mite scabs to me. We've had them this Summer as the horses have gone on to new rough grazing, they come up primarily in their lower legs but also round their faces.
 
my welshie gets random scabs.. at various times of year, for some reason particularly bad atm.. he currently has about 8 :p all over his body.. 3 on belly, neck, back, bum. I think his associate from fly bites that he gets a low grade bacterial infection in, but also get problems in winter, and sometimes if he gets too hot. Did get the vet out in the first instance and did scrape for ringworm (negative) and treat with fungatrol though not any better than other topical applications.

So anyway, have found for my boy that sudocreme with some sulphur powder mixed in works best and they clear up within a couple of days.

If I leave them alone they get worse (tried that ;) )

I would get your vet to check them out in the first instance though if you aren't sure.
 
Thank you all for your replies, the reason I dont think it is mud fever is that the horse that lives out with him had mud fever when I bought him which I treated and he hasnt had it back since, I hibiscrub their legs regularly to prevent any reoccurance, their field is also very dry, the reason I seemed to take the advice from pottamus is because she and a couple of other people who replied have welshies, my boys legs arent particularly hairy, plus for a small pot the cream is £6.99 so if it dosent work I will call the vet but its not breaking the bank even if it dosent work, and if it does its alot cheaper that a consoltation fee + cream,
it will also be a useful cream to have around I think, having read about it.
Thanks again for all your comments :)
 
My mare got these this year - she's a cob, and it's the only time (never again) that I trimmed some of her feather from just below the knee, which is where she then developed the scabs. The farrier, who happened to be there when it first showed, said 'treat it like itchy heel' so I have. Hibiscrub was no good, but baby oil gently massaged in took most of the scabs away, and I then used Sudocrem. The condition is much better, but hasn't entirely cleared up, so I'm waiting to see what winter will bring. Stay in touch! But like your horse, mine is completely sound (she's a mahogany bay with black points - no white at all)
 
Looks like malenders to me, and my boy's cleared up completely with pig oil and sulphur, applied every couple of days. I tried absolutely every else, all the above really, and I only wish I'd known what it was, and about POS years ago. sm x
 
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