anyone seen this before? im stumped *pics*

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My sec D yearling has this scabby growth/lump (have attached pics think they are sideways! cant seem to rotate them!) it is on that vein between his cannon bone and his tendon on the side if his front leg,
I saw it last week and it was smaller I just thought it was a little cut so put some sudocream on it,
but its not, its like scabby dead skin but its all attached you cant really pull bits off, the whole lump is hard, it dosent hurt him when I touch it and he is sound
He has also always had a small thing like this on the bottom of his ear which kind if grew like a wart type thing and then fell off,
it has now grown back?
Its the one on his leg I am worried about though because of where it is, he also has a small one on his pastern on the same leg (last photo ignore the mud!)
I asked the vet ages ago about the ear thing and they said dont worry about it, it will probs fall off, which obviously it did, but this one is different on his leg
I am compleatly stumped!!! thought I would rack your brains??
any ideas??!!
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It is pastern dermatitis which is an umbrella term covering multiple causes of similar looking scabs/grease and scale on the lower limbs. This is different to mud fever but confusingly the lesions may be contaminated with the mud fever bacteria. A common cause of the condition is mites. Your horse is not actually to severe so may not have full symptoms but does it ever itch its legs or stamp its feet? Whatever the cause this is a chronic condition that will require constant management. You need to get these scabs treated and I would strongly urge you to get him tested for mites. To treat clip hair and shampoo with shampoo appropriate to cause then use iodine and dermisol cream to cover. If bacteria areinvolved he will need antibiotics too. I suggest you search pastern dermatitis/greasy heel syndrome and see how chronic cases end up if not managed.
 
I would say feather mites looks excatly like mine get, you can either get a jab from the vet or treat with frontline spray and keep the legs greased with pig oil and sulphur or anything greasy like aqueous cream
 
Could def be mites at this time of year- could try Dectomax jab or get some Ivermectin wormers into him. My youngster had this a few weeks ago and I'm sure its to do with the time of year and I washed with Seleen shampoo once and then repeated 14 days later, wormed, and also used Deosect and repeated it after 14 days , we put aqaeous cream as someone has suggested above onto the crusty bits, and hair- he is back to normal now!- hope you get it sorted!
 
Defo Mud Fever please get some Athletes foot spray into it and see in a week it should clear up completely. Even if the scabs fall off and it goes pink keep going till it goes. :) Once a day spray is enough
 
I thought mud fever was scabs on the pastern right above the back of the hoof and it causes a lot of pain, enough so that the horse does not even want to take a step for food. I've seen hjorses fall into walls because the pain was so bad. This doesn't look or sound like mud fever to me.
 
Don't you think it might be more appropriate to get a veterinary diagnosis before you start treating for something you are not sure about? As you can see from the replies you have had so far there are many possibilities.
 
fawndashaw said:
I thought mud fever was scabs on the pastern right above the back of the hoof and it causes a lot of pain, enough so that the horse does not even want to take a step for food. I've seen hjorses fall into walls because the pain was so bad. This doesn't look or sound like mud fever to me.
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No not all horses are the same with it I have seen some as you describe bust most I have seen are not lame at all and it goes all over the legs
 
Hi. My horse had these when she had mites, I sprayed her legs with frontline and they have gone away. I thought she had mud fever initially but it started in the summer. But as others have said it could be something different so best to get it checked out.
 
fawndashaw said:
I thought mud fever was scabs on the pastern right above the back of the hoof and it causes a lot of pain, enough so that the horse does not even want to take a step for food. I've seen hjorses fall into walls because the pain was so bad. This doesn't look or sound like mud fever to me.
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You must have seen very acute cases.

Mud fever can be cracked heals to swollen legs, to scabs that everyone recognises.

Two of ours that are prone to it don't have any sighns initially, other than slight swelling in the fetlocks on one, the pastern on the other. If this is left untreated, then the scabs etc appear after a week or so.

As has been said, it could be mites, or it could be mud fever. Is there anyone more experienced around who could take a look? If not, I'd get the vets out for a look. Whatever it is, the sooner it is properly identified and treated correctly, the sooner it will be gone. Your vets don't sound like they treat things that don't need treating, so hopefully the bill won't be too large.
 
fawndashaw said:
I thought mud fever was scabs on the pastern right above the back of the hoof and it causes a lot of pain, enough so that the horse does not even want to take a step for food. I've seen hjorses fall into walls because the pain was so bad. This doesn't look or sound like mud fever to me.
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What you are describing is a very out of control infection of mudfever. If caught early enough you can stop its progression really quickly with Ketaconizole shampoo - you will need to find what it is marketed under in Canada - its a human anti dandruff shampoo.

If scabs have been forcible removed by the horse itching or the handler removing them it can develop very fast into fissures which like chapped lips are really painful.
 
Sam22 said:
It is pastern dermatitis...
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Agree.

My mare had it. God knows where she got it from, she was out at grass with a foal at foot - it wasn't mites.

It took a good couple of months to get rid of it. Udder cream (huge amounts) got rid of some of it on her heels but the infections on her cannon bones and fetlocks were a lot more stubborn. She ended up with it on all her legs and it had to be treated with iodine and a shampoo for dogs (prescribed by my vet), not sure what it's called.

I was told it's highly infectious so we were very careful, new, clean gauze to clean each leg and wash hands with hibiscrub.

Definitely get the vet to diagnose it properly, but it looks exactly like my mare's legs did. It got a lot worse too so best to jump on top of it now!!
 
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