Anyone used Noromectin wormer? Ok for this time of year?

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Just went to order wormers for my horses from the Harian website as they gave very good quick service last time. And it came up with 'wormer of the week.'
This wormer is called Noromectin paste and it says it treats adult and immature roundworms, lungworms and bots; because I've never heard of this wormer before I just wanted to hear if anyone else had and if it is suitable for worming this time of year?
 
We use Noromectin its a Equvalan like for like and its safe to use this time of year use it just as you would if using other branded products.
 
It's the active ingredient that is important, not the name of the wormer. Noromectin contains Ivermectin, the same as Equvalan and some others.
Why are you worming at this time of year? If you are not sure about which wormer to use and when, it would be advisable to get in touch with a company like Westgate who can perform worm egg counts and advise on if and when you need to use an anthelmintic.
See http://solo-equestrian.blogspot.com/2008/07/worms-and-worming-new-thinking.html for a summary of why you should be trying very hard to reduce the frequency of wormer use.
 
soloequestrian said:
It's the active ingredient that is important, not the name of the wormer. Noromectin contains Ivermectin, the same as Equvalan and some others.
Why are you worming at this time of year? If you are not sure about which wormer to use and when, it would be advisable to get in touch with a company like Westgate who can perform worm egg counts and advise on if and when you need to use an anthelmintic.
See http://solo-equestrian.blogspot.com/2008/07/worms-and-worming-new-thinking.html for a summary of why you should be trying very hard to reduce the frequency of wormer use.
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Why am I worming at this time of year? Because I have just had a new pony arrive which needs worming and my other 2 are due a wormer next week.....
 
Charla said:
Why am I worming at this time of year? Because I have just had a new pony arrive which needs worming and my other 2 are due a wormer next week.....
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But why are they 'due' a wormer? What are you worming for at this time of year? And for a new arrival, surely you want to cover all bases ie worm for tapeworm as well as the others?
 
So what should people be worming for at this time of year?

Sorry to jump in but mine are due to be wormed last did Ivermectin in Nov and was thinking of doing panacur 5 day for the encysted larvae as I think this is the time they migrate and can cause colic. I do poo test but that only tells you the adult worms so can't tell you the whole picture.

Someone please educate me.

Apologies again for interupting but this has been playing on my mind.
 
Beatrice5 said:
So what should people be worming for at this time of year?

Sorry to jump in but mine are due to be wormed last did Ivermectin in Nov and was thinking of doing panacur 5 day for the encysted larvae as I think this is the time they migrate and can cause colic. I do poo test but that only tells you the adult worms so can't tell you the whole picture.

Someone please educate me.

Apologies again for interupting but this has been playing on my mind.
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This is quite a tricky one, the problem being that yes, people do worry about encysted red worms, and the standard treatment for that is the Panacur 5-day BUT there is now widespread resistance to benzimidazole, which is the active ingredient of Panacur so you have no idea whether the treatment is effective or not. If you have had worm egg counts done regularly, and they all came back with low levels, then I wouldn't worry about encysted redworm. Although there may be some, their emergence (in spring) is highly unlikely to do any damage. If you had high levels of redworm, then presumably you would have done something about it at the time and so reduced the numbers of adults that would then produce eggs that would encyst. So either way, it is probably not worth worrying about them. I do wonder how much of this fear of encysted redworm has been instilled by the companies producing the drugs.... when I was younger, there was no such thing as the 5-day course, and I don't think anyone had every heard of encysted redworms. Then, so it seems, the treatment appeared and so did the problem!
There is some evidence that moxidectin is effective against encysted redworm, although as far as I know it's not licenced for this use, but it might be an alternative if you continue to be worried.
My horses are egg counted (infrequently now, but more regularly in the past) and then have one double dose of pyrantel once per year because I can't measure tapeworm burden.
And of course the caveat of taking advice from someone you don't know on a forum applies!
 
Thank you.

We did poo test quite a lot last year on advice of vet and never came back with anything much only ever a low count. I have been using Equimax tabs as I have one who has a real mouth phobia which we have been working on but I think squirting wormer down his throat may give him more excuse to be a twit.

I had heard of the resistance to benzimidazole which as you say is the Panacur. But with both my Mare and pony - one came off the New Forest so would have had limited worming to say the least and the other had a rather neglected past - again probably not had much worming. I have had them nearly 2 years now and regularly wormed with Equimax tabs and last time (Nov) the other eqi tabs that I was told was the right one for the time of year.

I do poo pick but haven't this past month due to snow but since owning the paddock I have done it religiously this is the first time I haven't and before we owned it there were sheep in it, so my vet advised me not to over worm as not necessary but I am an eternal worrier unfortunately.
 
Beatrice5 said:
Thank you.

We did poo test quite a lot last year on advice of vet and never came back with anything much only ever a low count. I have been using Equimax tabs as I have one who has a real mouth phobia which we have been working on but I think squirting wormer down his throat may give him more excuse to be a twit.

I had heard of the resistance to benzimidazole which as you say is the Panacur. But with both my Mare and pony - one came off the New Forest so would have had limited worming to say the least and the other had a rather neglected past - again probably not had much worming. I have had them nearly 2 years now and regularly wormed with Equimax tabs and last time (Nov) the other eqi tabs that I was told was the right one for the time of year.

I do poo pick but haven't this past month due to snow but since owning the paddock I have done it religiously this is the first time I haven't and before we owned it there were sheep in it, so my vet advised me not to over worm as not necessary but I am an eternal worrier unfortunately.
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I think you could safely cut down your worming! Although we are all brought up to think that worms should be totally eradicated, that isn't necessarily true. There is some anecdotal evidence that horses with no worm burden are more prone to auto-immune conditions (eg RAO) than those with a small burden, along the lines of the clean kids and asthma theory. Also, there is the concept of refugia, which is in the link I posted earlier. The biggest worry is that all worms become resistant to all wormers, and we will be left with nothing to treat emergencies.
 
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