Weezy
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
You sold the grey?! OMG I am SO gutted, I would have been over like a shot had I have known he was for sale *sob*
Anyone want a very talented project horse??? What does everyone think?
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BBs
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Seriously nice horse.
Obviously got a few issues tho. Id cut my losses too and just put in offers.
He looks to just been needs time, work and forming a partnership with someone.
Good luck finding him a home.
Obviously got a few issues tho. Id cut my losses too and just put in offers.
He looks to just been needs time, work and forming a partnership with someone.
Good luck finding him a home.
TarrSteps
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I'd also have to say he doesn't look quite right behind, although I'd have to see him in the flesh and sit on him to know more. Might be something to look into, though.
As to the money, I've started to look into taking some horse on with a local showjumping yard to make up (NOT as a dealer - I specialise in green/"problem" horses and the YO is a great horseman so we're going to invest our time and experience with a little bit of other people's money
) but I'd have to say that's a little more than I'd look to spend on a horse in his situation. Not that he's not absolutely lovely, just that from what you describe he's a long term project and there MAY be an underlying factor which might make the whole thing moot so it would have to be worth it.
Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.
The catch is between selling (or buying) "potential" and buying a "problem". When you're selling untried horses you're effectively selling dreams - everyone imagines a bright future and is willing to pay for even the glimmer. By the time the horse is going and jumping a bit then people are paying more for the reality, not the fantasy. (This is partly why people who make up young horses or fix problems for sale expect to make a good profit on a horse. First, the work is hard and time consuming and expensive. Second, many DON'T work out and the end result has to cover all the risks.) If the reality is there is work to be done and time to be spent it cuts a lot of people off the list immediately. The fact is MOST horses don't work out to the highest level - Germany produces 40,000 sport horse foals a year but they sure don't produce 40,000 successful show horses every year. And the latest studies suggest genetics and natural ability carry less weight in the final product (although they are essential if that makes sense) than production. A horse that's not working out even early on is already losing ground. And people who have the time and experience not only know this but tend not to have the money to take huge risks, unfortunately. They also often expect to get something back - not unreasonably if you ask me. If another limitation is that the buyer be a "forever home" then that lets out a lot of interested parties.
As to the money, I've started to look into taking some horse on with a local showjumping yard to make up (NOT as a dealer - I specialise in green/"problem" horses and the YO is a great horseman so we're going to invest our time and experience with a little bit of other people's money
Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.
The catch is between selling (or buying) "potential" and buying a "problem". When you're selling untried horses you're effectively selling dreams - everyone imagines a bright future and is willing to pay for even the glimmer. By the time the horse is going and jumping a bit then people are paying more for the reality, not the fantasy. (This is partly why people who make up young horses or fix problems for sale expect to make a good profit on a horse. First, the work is hard and time consuming and expensive. Second, many DON'T work out and the end result has to cover all the risks.) If the reality is there is work to be done and time to be spent it cuts a lot of people off the list immediately. The fact is MOST horses don't work out to the highest level - Germany produces 40,000 sport horse foals a year but they sure don't produce 40,000 successful show horses every year. And the latest studies suggest genetics and natural ability carry less weight in the final product (although they are essential if that makes sense) than production. A horse that's not working out even early on is already losing ground. And people who have the time and experience not only know this but tend not to have the money to take huge risks, unfortunately. They also often expect to get something back - not unreasonably if you ask me. If another limitation is that the buyer be a "forever home" then that lets out a lot of interested parties.
Flame_
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Sorry I already have a horse so I haven't got any money. I have an addiction to ginger horses of strange behaviour and if I was looking I'd be there in a shot. I'm sure some other crazy person will jump at the chance of figuring out such a lovely horse for that money. I bet he's not on the market for long.
xfeex
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I think he is a bit expensive but If you put him any cheaper you might get people who are not expearienced enough for him that just want a cheap horse.
He does look like he has a fab jump, have you tried him round a course?
He does look like he has a fab jump, have you tried him round a course?
icklemadame
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Hi everyone, thanks for all your help, advice etc - much appreciated
For those who asked - his breeding is Aldatus Z (Oldenburg) out of Clonmore Bay (ISH), his grandsire is Arctic Que (TB)
He has jumped a small course with no problems and he's done quite a bit of work over grids and combinations - he really enjoys his jumping and has a real 'have a go' attitude about it.
His price will be flexible and open to offers, I'm reluctant to put him really cheap for his sake, he really does need someone who knows what they are doing otherwise it'll just get worse for him, I don't want people who are just looking for a cheap horse with a 'he can't be that bad' attitude - he needs someone with a lot of time and knowledge who will accept his quirks and know how to cope with him...
We've spoken tonight about getting a second opinion on his back and we'll look into it tomorrow, so that may explain/rule out that as an explanation as I agree that it could well be that something isn't right.
And Weezy I'm so sorry I never realised you liked the grey boy that much
I'll let you know if they decide they don't like him!!!
For those who asked - his breeding is Aldatus Z (Oldenburg) out of Clonmore Bay (ISH), his grandsire is Arctic Que (TB)
He has jumped a small course with no problems and he's done quite a bit of work over grids and combinations - he really enjoys his jumping and has a real 'have a go' attitude about it.
His price will be flexible and open to offers, I'm reluctant to put him really cheap for his sake, he really does need someone who knows what they are doing otherwise it'll just get worse for him, I don't want people who are just looking for a cheap horse with a 'he can't be that bad' attitude - he needs someone with a lot of time and knowledge who will accept his quirks and know how to cope with him...
We've spoken tonight about getting a second opinion on his back and we'll look into it tomorrow, so that may explain/rule out that as an explanation as I agree that it could well be that something isn't right.
And Weezy I'm so sorry I never realised you liked the grey boy that much
wonkey_donkey
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I think he way over priced IMO. With his issues and less than favourable conformation you would be best off advertising on 'Project Horse' or similar. However, if he dumps his rider without going in draw reins then he may be very hard to sell for any money.
Emily99
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I was going to suggest project horses too.
You're at my old yard, god i miss that school!
You're at my old yard, god i miss that school!