Appleby Colt Drowning - Man Caught !

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Man's horse drowning admission

Published on 05/12/2007

A MAN has admitted being involved in a pony drowning tragedy at Appleby Horse Fair.

But a special hearing will now determine how much he was to blame for the animal’s death during a washing ceremony on June 8.

Ian Deer, of Seven Sisters Road, Tottenham, London, appeared before Eden Magistrates Court today where he admitted causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Prosecutor Peter Kelly described how the 21-year-old had taken the piebald colt into the River Eden during the fair which happens every year in June.

Reading from a series of statements he said Deer appeared to be struggling to control the pony and had tied a rope around its nose to restrain it.

He said eye-witness Sarah Brookfield, who had been standing on the river bank, said: “He (Deer) was leaning on its neck with all his weight on the pony’s mane to get its head under water. Twice the man thrust its head under water.

“The second or third time he put its head under it just didn’t come back up.”

In an interview Deer said he bought the pony at the fair despite having no experience because he wanted to swim it with the other young men. He admitted he could have taken the pony out of the deep water but said he was excited and “caught up with the atmosphere” and as a result the horse drowned.

Geyve Walker, defending, said: “The suffering this animal admittedly had was caused by negligence only and was not in any way deliberate.”

He said Deer only intended to take the pony into the shallow water, but struggled to control it, and the rope around its nose slipped because he was inexperienced.

He was bailed until February 20 when he will next appear before Eden Magistrates Court.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=571424
 
World full of arseholes, makes me sick
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How many inexperienced people take a horse deliberately push it's head under the water and drown it for the fun and experience of it, nothing to with inexperience of having a horse, it's to do with the retards we have bred in society, the week before he was probably out with his mates drinking as much as he possibly could, fighting, pissing and vomiting in the street, wasting police time and then needing an ambulance for passing out in the gutter, of course, all for the experience of it and got caught up in the atmosphere, I think I know who needs drowning,
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Geyve Walker, defending, said: “The suffering this animal admittedly had was caused by negligence only and was not in any way deliberate.”

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Does tht matter????
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Not talking a pi55ed off kitty because inexperianced owner diddnt know cats are not dound of water are we?
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I'm sick to death of the "I diddnt know,it wasnt deliberate" cop out!
 
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Pikey's make me sick sooner we use them for human testing the better
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Because racism and death threats against humans are always fun.
 
I know lots of people that don't know anything about horses.... I know some that have never been within half a mile of a horse but any of them would know that you can't hold a horses head under the water without it drowning......same way as humans can't breathe underwater.....

I would like 10 mins of 'negligence' time with this **at and a large tank of water
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Thats a little harsh- I have some friends who were travellers, parents still are, they also own a few horses, and breed from them and are responsible with that and in all horse care and who they sell too.
 
Can't see there's any defence for forcibly drowning an animal, experience or no. And I agree about pikeys - maybe once they were honourable people but there's just too much evidence against 'travelers' now.
 
There isn't a defence for it. full stop!

but the generalisation that 'pikeys' need to be tested on etc isnt fair comment. It was one person, not all travellers lack common sense, most prevail to be good people.

I am sure the next time an animal dies at the hands of an irresponsible person, say a caucasion, female in her 40's, that the people who fit that criteria need to be tested on and that somone should hate that particular group. Its nonsense.
 
You've got to wonder what he thought would happen to it if he kept forcing it's head under the water with a rope round it's nose - any person with a modecom of sense would realise if the animal was struggling that perhaps something was up? Absolutely ridiculous that he claims not to know any better - twat!
 
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Absolutely ridiculous that he claims not to know any better - twat!

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Absolutely ridiculous that anybody believed him!!!
 
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Because racism and death threats against humans are always fun.

Well i no alot of pikeys! And if im honest 90% of the ones i know shouldnt be allowed horses........and thats coming from someone who has traveller blood so you cant call me biast OR DESCRIMINATIVE!
 
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Because racism and death threats against humans are always fun.

Well i no alot of pikeys! And if im honest 90% of the ones i know shouldnt be allowed horses........and thats coming from someone who has traveller blood so you cant call me biast OR DESCRIMINATIVE!

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Could call you a bad speller though, and "DESCRIMINATIVE" is not even a real word!
 
Untaxed vehicles, no insurance, fly tipping, no waste carriers licence, illgegal parking on private land, illegal blocking of bridleways, claiming benefit yet not paying into the system, badgering people at their front doors, free use of the NHS, always seem at the forefront when horses and horse stuff stolen, sorry if I missed anything, can anyone tell me what their particular niggle is and give me one reason why we should like these "travellers", gypsy, traveller, pikey, whatever, it's just words covering up the fact they are mobile criminals, if we all decide to live the same claiming it's our "human right" then society would be chaos covered in crap and disease, they only exist because the rest of us twats go to work and abide by the law.
 
this fella didn't drown the horse...it "drowned"...2 entirely different things.

the guy didn't hold it's head under the water, as said ponymanaged to get one of its front feet through the rope halter, so everytime it made a swimming stroke, it's head went under..
several by standers, not the guy charged admittedly, tried to un-hook its leg..to no avail...and the end result is what we know..

i am in NO WAY condoning what he did..he was in-experienced, shirked his responsibility by running off when the pony got into a panic, but IMO he didn't "drown" the pony...

i'm sure he would rather have taken home a live healhy pony rather then paying X amount for it and then "deliberately" killing it????
doesn't make sense really.......

he has acted stupidly and as far as i'm aware, has been dealt with appropriately by the travelling fraternity and now common law.





anyone like to enlighten me on "what is a pikey"??
 
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