Are all DIY yards bitchy?

I've only been on 4 livery yards varying from about 20 horses to about 80. They were all painfully bitchy from the teenagers in it for the social aspect, not the horses, to the very much older people who should really have known much better. In each case the Y.O's and particularly their teenage children were the main stirrers and seemed to need the drama. It's difficult to avoid being sucked in, because if you mind your own business, you're that weirdo, the dodgy one and stuff gets blamed on you even more.

Current share is kept at small private yard, just the owner, one livery and myself and 2 other sharers. It's brilliant, although still not without the odd issue about jobs and people not doing them. But i do love it after all those years of nasty people.
 
I've always been on really small, or totally private yards, but moved to a really big place last year. I was anxious about it before moving there, but I've been there about a year now and up until 6 months ago everything was brilliant. I loved it. Then this one unpleasant individual moved in, always accompanied by her equally unpleasant mother as she cannot drive (she's about 25) and things have changed dramatically. It's gotten to the point when I find myself visiting the yard either very early or very late, simply to avoid them. Unfortunately they are stabled right next to mine. You would not believe the atmosphere when those two are up there - the rest of us cringe. So it only takes ONE PERSON on a yard to ruin the experience for a whole lot of other people. And I guess there's inevitably always one
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I moved to a new yard two weeks ago, although the old yard was alright, and i do miss the people there, i am loving the new yard no bitching at all a lovely supportive group of people i couldnt ask for anything more, have been on some horrible yards in the past one that almost made me give up horses for good
 
I too think it happens everywhere not just on yards but in life generally. However I do think it is such a dam shame that women with the same hobby can not geniunely be friendly. I love to see my friends do well and enjoy their horses yet so many people seem to compete against each other so not nice!!

Then there is the two faced lot arrgghhh

I must say the yard I am on right now is one of the better ones, not perfect by a long shot but not as bad as some I have been on
 
I think woman in general are bitchy, and it just so happens that on livery yards you get a whole bunch of them together which seems to make it ten times worse!

I also think its a bit unfair to says its yards with lots of younger people on (I'm 25 so hopefully still count as young!) as the last yard I was on it was actually the woman in their late 30's, 40's and 50's who were the worst and constantly slagging off the girls we had on our yard who were 18 and 19 (and then me too at a later stage).

Saying that, when I moved to that yard everything was great and I got on with everyone really well, organised xmas parties etc for everyone, and swore I would never want to move. 14 months on, I got myself another horse as one of mine was lame and the other was too small (13hh!) and overnight the atmosphere towards me changed, my new horse was always doing things wrong, getting blamed for things (like chewing the p&r, even though he was turned out with a serial wind sucker who's owner swore it was her horse doing it not mine!). I even confronted one person about it once when she was asking me if everything was ok with new horse (he had cellulitis in the first week I got him and they were slagging me/him off like mad - not too discretely either, even my OH heard it), to which I asked her why she was even bothering to ask me when it's the topic of the month to have a good bitch about? She actually had the nerve to say they weren't bitching about me, it was just 'horsey talk'
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. Anyway, the YO knew it was going on and was really annoyed when I said I was leaving because of it, and told my friend (who is still there and apparantly its as bad as ever) that he always loses the people he doesn't want to lose, but never the troublemakers - shame he doesn't have the nerve to kick them out!

Anyway, I left and rented my own place where the only 'bitching' that goes on is when I am slagging off the bloody mare to my OH because she has escaped through the electric fence again! That said I have been only ever been on two other yards, one was fine until one person joined and then it went downhill, and the other yard had lovely people on it!
 
I've been on four DIY yards and found that the smaller ones were the most bitchy/cliquey. I'm now on a big (70 horse) yard and yes there is still bitching, there is a dressage clique, the YM clique, young teenagers etc but because it is so big you can avoid it, i'm lucky to have a stable thats not in the main hustle and bustle, so I can easily keep myself to myself and not get involved.
So I do think most yards have some bitching going on, but its whether you get involved or not that matters.
 
Our yard is lovely - We have cake day on a saturday, where we all have a gossip whilst having a cup of tea and a big fat piece of cream cake. Everyone gets on with everyone and if there's a problem we sort it out amongst ourselves

Our YO won't tolerate bitchy people anyway - they are always told politely to clear off!!!!
 
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Nope, its not the yards that are bitchy.... but the people on them!!
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Yes, I agree with this
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It seems there is always some bitchiness, I prefer to stay well away, if they want to bitch pointlessly then they are sad sods and can sod off
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I'm oblivious to bitchy people I let them get on with it, I'm there for my horses only.

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Oh and this is how I feel about it, summed up much better than myself as per
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Discuss
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Is it just the yards I end up on?

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DWI - jump the valley and come on over to us rather than ride past the gate lol:-) We have a variety of charecters but very little bad bits - Infact Ive been off work ill all week, and 2 of the other girls on there have nabbed my boy and done everything for him, feel very lucky indeed :-) mind you - they did point out they didn't want flu too, so I was to stay the **** away until i was better - but they sent me pics of him all happy and tucked in!
 
I would say yes t some point somewhere there's always "ONE" but maybe I've not experienced enough yards.

Actually saying that one I was on years and years ago was alright, but I was 14/15 so maybe I just didn't notice!
 
Mine isn't.

Maybe it is and I don't notice because when I go to the yard I generally keep out of the way unless its a nice convo I want a part of.

But I will say, IMO middle aged women are the worst for it.
 
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