luckyoldme
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Its the cost of keeping them...most people who are struggling will quickly work out that evan if they give a horse away free they will be better off than if they have to keep the horse and pay for its upkeep.
Are horses being sold too cheap?
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Littlelegs
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What a lot of rubbish impossiblepony. People selling good ponies & horses for decent money does not encourage over breeding cheap ones. Why should people expect other people to put in the time & work to make a good pony/horse so somebody else can save themselves having to shell out? If you want a decent horse/pony, you either buy cheap & put in the effort, or get your hand in your pocket & buy ready made. You wouldn't expect someone to sell you a house, car, lorry, new kitchen etc for less than its worth just because you're a cheapskate, why should horses be any different? My daughters pony cost £10 as a yearling. She's now 5&1/2 & coming along rather well as a lovely second pony. By the time she's outgrown she'll be even better. If we were to sell (not doing, ever) are you honestly suggesting we should do so for less than market value? So even though my child has worked really hard, she should give away the end result for peanuts? 'yes, sorry sweetie, we will sell her for peanuts incase people are too tight to want to pay for a ready made pony. And we'll buy you another £10 pony, so you can do all the work over again for some peasant to reap the benefits when you've finished'. If people can't afford to buy a decent one, & lack the experience to make one, then tough luck.
Goldenstar
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That's a strange way to look at it if I have a TB he's was cheap ( for me ) to buy at just over £4000 , if I was to sell him now I would expect to get a lot of money he's sound looks fantasic know all the dressage moves will do very well when he starts completing again and is jumping well he's about to return to BE if all goes well he will be a valuable horse why if I needed to sell him would I give away my skill for nothing ?
likewise a child's pony you put the most valuable precious thing in your world on a pony of course great ones make good money.
Coldfeet!
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TB are lovely horses I used to own an ex racer myself but in my experience people do not want them due to the high maintenance aspect and the fact ex racers are not a novice ride then all tb ex racer or otherwise are considered equally, breaky and costly to keep, even if it events/dressage its a tb and not worth the hassle and not worth more than 1k. Section A's are ten a penny, go for peanuts, you see people coming back from markets with small herds of welsh all "saved" its a very sorry state of affairs all round. I feel the really good horses and ponies worth their weight are not getting a fair chance of selling due to people going for the cheaper options.
I sold my boy for £50 less than asking price he was fairly priced but not under priced. The horse I have just bought would have cost me 4k in a good market but cost way less than half that, I was the first to view him and a few other lovely horses available as the owners were getting no interest and had ended up having to lower the prices due to their own circumstances. I feel a little that I had done well on their misfortune and didn't quibble a penny on the asking price.
its so sad when a creature as special as a horse can be so worthless.
I sold my boy for £50 less than asking price he was fairly priced but not under priced. The horse I have just bought would have cost me 4k in a good market but cost way less than half that, I was the first to view him and a few other lovely horses available as the owners were getting no interest and had ended up having to lower the prices due to their own circumstances. I feel a little that I had done well on their misfortune and didn't quibble a penny on the asking price.
its so sad when a creature as special as a horse can be so worthless.
Goldenstar
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It depends of course on the TB like all breeds and types of horses theres a huge range of types and conformations and temperament .
My TB is lucky blessed with conformation and movement that leads him to be mistaken for a light warmblood he's easy to train and very sweet marketed right he would go into the top end market for a wealthy person who wanted to event and do dressage quite seriously he will not need a pro rider when he's had a little XC mileage such horses can always find buyers . It's the bottom. And bottom of middle market thats really slack.
My TB is lucky blessed with conformation and movement that leads him to be mistaken for a light warmblood he's easy to train and very sweet marketed right he would go into the top end market for a wealthy person who wanted to event and do dressage quite seriously he will not need a pro rider when he's had a little XC mileage such horses can always find buyers . It's the bottom. And bottom of middle market thats really slack.
navaho
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Im having to face the prospect of selling 7 of my horses this year, the question that bothers me most is how on earth do you put a price on anything at the moment. Its really difficult, ive got 2 2yr olds & a yearling to sell & they are the ones proving the most difficult to price. I dont want to give them away for silly money, but at the same time i dont want to over price them either. Its such a mine field.
Firewell
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My mum bought her old horses back in the 1980's for more than they would be worth nowadays.
She bought a 15.3, 7yr old PBA who had some BSJA winnings and had jumped up to Newcomers and had come 2nd in ther Newcomers final for 3k... I do add that he had pulled a check ligament at the time and wouldn't pass a vet..
She also bought a 16.1 8yr old Irish TB with unknown breeding that had done a few bits and bobs but nothing of merit but was a classy horse. The owners wanted 7k.. she paid 3.5k for him.
This is back in 1989 when a £250,000 house cost 30k....
It is absolute madness now that those same horses would probably worth 1/2k if that and it is nearly 25 years later... Now either those horses were horrendously expensive back in the 80's or the value of horses as dropped like a stone. I wonder what on earth has happened for horses to be worth less now then they were 25 years ago while the price of everything else has rocketed through the ceiling.
When I think of putting a price on my horses head it makes me cringe. He is priceless, he is fantastic and the best horse iv'e ever had but if his old owner hadn't of taken him on for free he would have probably have gone for meat. I can't bear the thought of all those brave beasts with so much to give someone on the rubbish heap (or in our burgers!!). What has happened over the past quarter of a century for it to get like this.
She bought a 15.3, 7yr old PBA who had some BSJA winnings and had jumped up to Newcomers and had come 2nd in ther Newcomers final for 3k... I do add that he had pulled a check ligament at the time and wouldn't pass a vet..
She also bought a 16.1 8yr old Irish TB with unknown breeding that had done a few bits and bobs but nothing of merit but was a classy horse. The owners wanted 7k.. she paid 3.5k for him.
This is back in 1989 when a £250,000 house cost 30k....
It is absolute madness now that those same horses would probably worth 1/2k if that and it is nearly 25 years later... Now either those horses were horrendously expensive back in the 80's or the value of horses as dropped like a stone. I wonder what on earth has happened for horses to be worth less now then they were 25 years ago while the price of everything else has rocketed through the ceiling.
When I think of putting a price on my horses head it makes me cringe. He is priceless, he is fantastic and the best horse iv'e ever had but if his old owner hadn't of taken him on for free he would have probably have gone for meat. I can't bear the thought of all those brave beasts with so much to give someone on the rubbish heap (or in our burgers!!). What has happened over the past quarter of a century for it to get like this.