Are Stubben saddles out of fashion?

I loved mine, it was a Siegfried CS and my horse went so well in hers she muscled up to the point it didn't fit. I stupidly sold it and have regretted it ever since :( Have a 'Stubben' shaped horse now and just cannot find another one. Had a few over the years as have Tb's and they always seem to fit straight from the box. I loved jumping in mine, felt like I could take on anything, never found it that uncomfortable either, guess my bum has enough padding... :)

Lusting after a new one with Biomex seat, a friend has 2 and they are lush.
 
ofcourseyoucan said:
most of my stubbens are parivals which are much comfier than the siegfried, of which i have 2 and they are hard.
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Mine is a Parsival GP and the second Parsival I have had. It isn't nearly as heavy as my Kieffer event, and I find it very comfortable, so maybe some stubbens are harder. Again, as somebody said, they wear well, and I like the double skinned flap and skirt. I'm beginning to think that its a bit of a fashion thing like so many things equine!
 
I like the hard, flat seats on stubbens but have yet to find a horse they fit. We have a few in the rafters but they are so bizarrely narrow. This is on a yard of 30 TBs and a few others. I have never had a horse fit anything less than a medium wide. Do I just choose horses with big shoulders?
 
I love them to jump in, and the new ones are lighter, flatter and designed to fit "modern" horses. The old ones are narrower, and that's why people struggle to move them. If I needed a new jump saddle though, the new ones would be near the top of my list, and they fit my wide round mare well.

Re. Tim Stockdale, he ALWAYS used them until a few years ago when he changed to butet as he said the stubbens didn't offer as much freedom through the shoulder...the new trees came out, and he went straight back to stubben....
 
I've got 10 Stubbens - 8 jumping, 1gp for OH, 1 dressage. From a few months old to 25 years.
2 x20yo Columbo saddles & 1 x 25yo Daland (fully suede covered) - all still in amazing condition.
1 x 5-10yo dressage & 1 x Scandica Nova (quilted leather)
1x 3yo Siegfried GP
These ones are all the traditional heavy old style, but I (and OH) find them very comfortable and very secure to ride in.
I don't agree with the all too narrow and made for TB's issue. In fact I find the opposite. Stubben originated from Krefeld in Germany back when they had stonking great Hannoverians, not the lighter weight types of today. Mine are a variety of widths from 28-32. Use a 28 on ex racehorse through to 32 on Dutch warmblood with virtually no withers!
In last couple of years have bought some of the newer ones - Scandica II, Genesis and 2x Edelweiss NT de luxe. The Edelweiss are ultra light and built on the new Stubben tree (hence NT). Everyone who's tried the Edelweiss has loved them - even Butet afficionados! Do agree though that they are not as popular as several years ago. Most of my friends seem to want Butet or Devoucoux. I would be interested to see a 25 year old Butet, as if I was going to pay £2,500 for a saddle I'd be expecting it to be as long lasting as a Stubben.
 
The only new saddles that I've ever bought have been stubbens. The last one was a Roxane S for an elderly TB who was fairly narrow. His tree was a 29, but the saddle had to be restuffed right out of the box because it was not designed for a TB back with wither dips. Once it got restuffed, it was perfect. Very secure for me and comfortable for him.

So I tend to agree that (at least the newer ones) are not designed for the typical TB back.
 
Ive had two Seigfrieds one was the older design but the seat was so hard, I hated it. The newer one was better to sit in but both were a 28 and medium wide. I found they were too wide for any of my horses. I sold them both at a loss and it took me ages to sell them.
 
I've had pretty good luck with Stubben saddles actually. I would prefer a saddle to feel quite hard rather than feel like I am sat on a marshmallow though! Our big and wide ISH has a siegfried that fits very well, and I have an ancient parsival that I keep because it is a well balanced saddle that seems to sit pretty much correctly on all sorts of ex-racehorses and lighter types, so I keep it as a very-regularly used spare!
 
When I was growing up Stubben's were the saddles we all aspired to..... until I rode in one! I hated it!! And every one I have sat on since I have also hated!! I just find them far too hard and heavy!! But good luck selling it!!
 
I think Stubbens are the marmite of the saddle world, people love or hate them!
Mine is hard but really keeps my leg secure when my boy is having a 'moment', I am short and find the pannels short on the jumping stubbens (you always have to get longer girths) so I have more of my leg in contact with the horse (rather than saddle) so I love them
 
They were definitely fashionable late 80s early 90s when I had a Siegfried which I adored. Then the close contacts I.e. pessoa's came in and everyone switched to those as they were so much lighter and Stuebbens went out and didn't seem to come back in. I would love to try one of the new ones as I think it would suit Loll but don't have the beans currently :(
 
i bought a stubben roxanne jump saddle when i got my youngster as she was very very sharp, kept me in the saddle when she had her moments ;) but unfortunately its now too narrow for her so im selling it - ive advertised it for about a month now and had a couple of silly low offers. I am realistic but im not going to give it away as its in very good condition!
 
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