Are youngsters selling ?

laa666

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I have to sell a couple of youngster and wondered how other forum users who breed horses were finding the market ? I bought a couple of foals last year after I put a couple of my broodmares out on loan, decided not to breed again . However I have just been given back my mares as they no longer want them !! I dont have the room to keep 4 horses, dont have enough land, so have to part with yearlings. Friends told me you cant give youngsters away !!!!!!!!! would be interested to hear how others are finding the market. One of my youngsters is Irish bred the other warmblood, both decent event /SJ lines, both bay. Also if you have sold youngsters where did you find the best place to advertise apart from H and H ?
 

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I may well be wrong, but I suspect that there will always be a market for the very best, and the very worst. It's the middle of the road youngsters which are being sold at well below production costs, if they're fetching that much.

Alec.
 

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I have been very fortunate in being able to sell both my foals. One, believe it or not, was from a wanted post on FB, she was a Primitive Proposal x Renkum Englishman filly and has gone to a fantastic home.

The other, a Don Ricoss x Monte Carlo generated interest on FB when I posted pics of him, but sold to someone who'd bought one from us before and asked if we had another for sale, so they bought him. He too has gone to a lovely home with a family who will love him to peices.

Neither foal was overpriced, but enough to make it worthwhile doing it.
 

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I now have 3 people wanting one of our foals for next year and 1 for another girl so I am very happy jst hope we dont have any problems
I have sold 1 foal this year and got what I was asking for him, another youngter by our stallion has just gone for good Money heard from his breeder 2 weeks ago.
things might be looking up
 

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All of my foals sold months ago for their asking price. I advertise them at about 6 weeks old and theyre usually sold within a week or two weeks. I held my prices as high as in previous years and found the market has been strong this year. My foals were snapped up very quickly. Some markets dont seem to have been affected.
 

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I'm afraid that I've had no joy selling my two foals, despite them being Highest and Reserve Highest scoring event foals at Writtle Futurity. They are both from good competition families and I'm asking quite a bit less than some adverts I've seen. They are advertised on Horsequest, Horsedeals, Dragon driving, and preloved. NOT ONE phone call!
I'll just run them on, as they are too nice to give away, and I don't want to devalue my stock anyway. Good luck everybody else with yours!
 

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last year we sold roly on Coloured contacts within 2 weeks, and ths year Muddy was in horse deals first week he sold call friday sold Monday.
muddy was not coloured either just georgous but iam bias

good luck selling them
 

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Sold my 5 month old colt on Horse Deals. To be honest I thought I would just try and see what happened but didn't really expect to sell him. Had him advertised at £3k and got £2.9k for him. Good Breeding on both sides but not 'the best' so I was really happy.

Also sold a 2 year old (to my farrier - just mentioned I was going to sell her and he jumped at the chance as he has always liked her) and a 3 year old through a friend of a friend who just came to see our new home. I also have someone very interested in my palomino yearling filly but I want to keep her this winter so my other colt foal still has a young playmate.

All in all far more than I expected and signs the market is picking up?
 

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I've sold my foal too (touch wood, the vetting is on wednesday) but it was by the modern version of word-of-mouth and the buyer heard about the foal from an internet forum where we are both members. He knew the dam and liked her and liked the stallion I'd chosen. I did advertise on Horsequest too but didn't get one phone call from that advert.
 

laa666

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Sold my 5 month old colt on Horse Deals. To be honest I thought I would just try and see what happened but didn't really expect to sell him. Had him advertised at £3k and got £2.9k for him. Good Breeding on both sides but not 'the best' so I was really happy.

Also sold a 2 year old (to my farrier - just mentioned I was going to sell her and he jumped at the chance as he has always liked her) and a 3 year old through a friend of a friend who just came to see our new home. I also have someone very interested in my palomino yearling filly but I want to keep her this winter so my other colt foal still has a young playmate.

All in all far more than I expected and signs the market is picking up?
I do hope things are picking up, my youngsters are yearlings, dont want to sell them as will make decent competition horses, but been put in situation where have to sell. I know a friend sold some of her youngsters for half there value and another who breeds coloured cobs has sold all her youngstock for good prices. I might try H and H and HD and see how it goes, there might be still some people looking for a good irish bred youngster, but wont give them away.
 

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Don't want to be doom and gloom but yearlings are notoriously hard to sell because of their growing stages, not a cute foal now, more a gangly baby and for some unknown reason people also seem to think they'll have too long to wait before they can do anything whereas they're quite happy to buy a foal which is a year younger; work that one out!
It's actually my favourite age to buy as you tend to get a bargain, sorry, not what you want to hear.
 
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I have had difficulties selling mine-i have a yearling, 2yo and a 3yo for sale and they just dont seem to be going! Beginning to panic as if i dont sell something there will be no more mares put in foal next year as have 1 due next year too. Brightwells sale is a no go, have been there 3 times now with youngsters and the prices they go for in the ring dont even cover your stud fee never mind their keep, entry fee, fuel to get there etc...needless to say they came home with me in previous years!
 

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I think that the very best, high-priced, 'proven' youngsters in specialist markets are still selling. For example, a 2yo colt by my boy Tobago sold within a day of being advertised on Arabian Lines - but this colt has won a lot of major show championships, and was sold as a top show horse and future breeding stallion.

The in-hand show-Arab world is, however, a somewhat unusual market, in which a 2yo can already have 'proved' himself at national/international level and therefore be highly valuable - unlike the sport-horse market, where one is selling on the basis of future 'potential', rather than proven success. Good (or fashionable) breeding helps, as do good Futurity evaluations - but the riders who are the target market will still have to wait years before their purchase can prove itself in competition, so I suppose it is much more of a gamble for them?
 

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I think yearlings ARE difficult to sell for good money -- I personally would not buy a yearling unless it was a horse I had first seen, and liked, as a foal and then for some reason was not sold as a foal...

But foals and two year olds are definitely selling, if the price is right and they are quality youngsters! I sold my 2 yo by word of mouth, and for the asking price. A friend has bred half a dozen foals this year and sold them all (and they were not cheap -- between 6 and 10k each!). Youngsters are definitely selling!
 

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Don't want to be doom and gloom but yearlings are notoriously hard to sell because of their growing stages, not a cute foal now, more a gangly baby and for some unknown reason people also seem to think they'll have too long to wait before they can do anything whereas they're quite happy to buy a foal which is a year younger; work that one out!
It's actually my favourite age to buy as you tend to get a bargain, sorry, not what you want to hear.
How about a swap??

http://www.horsedeals.co.uk/horses-for-sale/event-horse---be/Quality-TB-Filly__19-10-10-395255
 
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I hadn't planned on selling my foals coming up to winter, but I actually sold my Iroko colt foal to a woman who came up to buy my fiberglass wheelbarrow. Only sold because it's an excellent stud farm that produces young horses. So a win win situation for me.

But yeah, the markets are dire really.

Terri
 

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Don't want to be doom and gloom but yearlings are notoriously hard to sell because of their growing stages, not a cute foal now, more a gangly baby and for some unknown reason people also seem to think they'll have too long to wait before they can do anything whereas they're quite happy to buy a foal which is a year younger; work that one out!
It's actually my favourite age to buy as you tend to get a bargain, sorry, not what you want to hear.
This post caught my eye - I think you are absolutely right, Maesfen, but perhaps the 'fugly yearling' stage does not apply to all breeds or bloodlines? Here are a couple of my boy's pure-bred Arab yearlings, for example, who don't seem to be going through that unattractive yearling growth-stage:







OK, these yearlings are being shown, but his unshown ones look the same (although quite a bit muddier)!

Are some breeds somehow miraculously exempt from the normal fugly-yearling stage, do you think? Or is it just, within a breed, those who have been bred for generations as 'show' horses?

Does anyone have yearling-photos from other breeds/bloodlines that might illustrate the differences in growth stages? (Sorry, these were the only yearling pics that I had to hand!)
 

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In my previous job on a showing yard we seemed to be able to get our yearlings looking less fugly and growthy but it was by rugging them well, walking them in hand, strapping and feeding them for the show ring. And these were all showing bloodlines as it were.
personally with my own babies I would rather just leave them to be gangly babies at 1 and maybe show them as 2yos as its a lot easier to get a 2yo looking in show condition without putting too much strain on them.

Really cant comment on the Uk market as we are in germany now, but even though my website is months out of date, and I am not advertising anywhere, I have had a few enquires this year about my stock, so people are looking it seems. It helps that we have a few crops out there that people are seeing and liking and thats where I think these enquires come from
 

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i have sold all of mine on donedeal.ie its a great website. i know its irish but i have sold to york, wales, scotland, tipperary, donegal, waterford, and more. in last few months i have sold 8. all young stock, 4 foals, 1 yearling, one 2yr old, two 4yr olds. i have 1 more yearling and 1 broodmare to go, but i dont mind keeping thme as amazing breeding and mare is infoal and yearling is a homozygous colt very well marked. so i am happy with donedeal great site, if i do sell the other 2 i will be left with 5 and that is my staying number. but dont mind if i dont sell the other 2 as great horses.
 

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I have been trying to sell a 3 year old lightly backed NF and a 3 year old lunged/long-reined/just sat on a couple of times nicely bred WB potential competiton horse. In desperation I sent the NF to the pony sales (and got a ridiculous pittance for him) and the only interest I've had in the WB was a text message saying they were interested if she was under £1000 (yeah . . right . . .) and an email from an on-line ad asking if I would part exchange but not specifying what for.
 

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i think it is an arab thing as my baby didn't go through an ugly stage, mind you she is x thoroughbred. although she did go through a stage where she was covered in milk warts around her mouth and chin which lasted 2-3 months by they have all gone :)

The stud where she was bred is a lovely place and i don't think they have trouble selling their young stock as they produce some lovely horses. I wasn't looking to buy another horse, especially a 2yr old after a 3 year break but i saw my baby and just fell in love with her :) now she is my pride and joy!

I hope you manage to sell your youngsters and i hope they all go to very nice homes. If i could have more i would but ones enough :) x
 

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This post caught my eye - I think you are absolutely right, Maesfen, but perhaps the 'fugly yearling' stage does not apply to all breeds or bloodlines? Here are a couple of my boy's pure-bred Arab yearlings, for example, who don't seem to be going through that unattractive yearling growth-stage..........
OK, these yearlings are being shown, but his unshown ones look the same (although quite a bit muddier)!

Are some breeds somehow miraculously exempt from the normal fugly-yearling stage, do you think? Or is it just, within a breed, those who have been bred for generations as 'show' horses?

Does anyone have yearling-photos from other breeds/bloodlines that might illustrate the differences in growth stages? (Sorry, these were the only yearling pics that I had to hand!)
Funnily enough,my four by Gemini were all very regular with their growth and none seemed to go through an ugly stage; at least to me, the doting mother so perhaps it might be an Arab sort of thing!:)
Another that always looked good was Stan, a TB by Shahrastani out of a Cadeaux Genereux mare, always very tidy. Sadly no pics of any of them, before my digital time and haven't had time to scan them in! Freddy, one of the foster boys has grown regularly too, always very compact; I keep waiting for him to lengthen but it doesn't seem to be in his make up while Harry is another that seems to grow evenly except that he has put on height spurts now and then but always looks in proportion. Pot luck I think whichever type you have.:D
 
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