ARGH!! Muppets with horses make me mad!!

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Basically A used to be on our yard. She had two horses - a lovely old gent and a nutty mare. She used to have to give the mare sedaline before she could ride it
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and frequently took it on pleasure rides half drugged. YO found out and kicked her off the yard - she moved to a local yard and bought a 4 yr old Halflinger (i think) mare that had just been professionally backed.

The new yard has limited TO during the winter - as youngster is 'difficult' to lead when it had been in all day she left it in the stable
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and it only came out to be shod. Yesterday she got on it for the first time - after it had been in teh stable 24/7 for two months!!!!!
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Horse went nuts and she came off breaking her wrist. Horse was chucked in stable and left with tack on overnight until the YO saw it in the morning and untacked. A's husband arrived and started leading it around with the side reins done up as tight as they would go
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Luckily YO spotted it, took the horse away from him and chucked it in a field where it bucked, rolled and galloped for ages.

In this instance there's a happy ending - A's YO has just bought her horse from her and is sending it to her sister's yard for three months where it can have unlimited TO with another youngster
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some people seem incapable of learning how to treat their horses! bring back the old fashioned riding school instructors with their headscarves, tweed jackets and baggy jodhpurs - they would sort them all out!!
 
we seem to attract them all the time. one person was too scared to handle her old gent so decided the best idea would be to get an unhandled youngster to keep him company. what a fantastic idea that turned out to be.......... not!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I really think that some people are too stupid to own horses.

Why don't people like this just ride at a riding school, no responsibility, no commitments, just turn up, pay yer money, ride a dobbins for an hour or two and go home!
 
We attract them too Clairefeekerry1
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YO is currently being sued by the last person to leave - she arrived at the yard with a fully fit TB which would have been fine except she'd never ridden before in her life
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Horse bolted with her on the road and then fell over
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Luckily they both came out of it with minor injuries.
 
I agree our yard is full of these, one lady is such a idiot that she tacked her horse which has serious nerve damage up this morning and started long reining it about the yard, the horse should not be hear some days it can hardly move, WHAT THE HELL!!!!
 
years ago we also had a lady move up with a TB. she used to lock herself in the stable with it, close the top door and inject it with her home made calming supplement, several times a day!!! needless to say she was asked to leave the next day. think its coz we are quite cheap diy farm so seems to attract the odd ones!
 
i know of a girl who is in early twenties ridden a few times in her life mainly when she was 6!! came to ride my friends with view to her helping out and riding both horses, she was so novicey it was almost dangerous, gone off today merrily with borrowed horsebox to buy a horse she's never seen let alone ridden... worrying thing is she thought she could buy an 8 month old and be riding it within weeks!! luckily we didn't agree to have her on our yard and she's gone somewhere else - its the horse i feel sorry for!!!!
 
oh my god all this stories are worrying!! i don't know what i;d do if somebody started doing things like that! and i get stressy at the people who don't come up every day and expect us to keep an eye on their horses for them.
 
They're everywhere! Our classic this week has been young lady home for the holidays - her horse has not been ridden for months and is lucky if it is checked in the field once a week. So yesterday she tacks it up and gallops around the frozen solid fields for an hour or so! No damage appears to have been done - how do these people get away with it??
 
they get away with cause they can, we live in a world where stupid people can have, own, breed people or animals, with no checks what so ever
yes we all have to learn, but some people should just be locked away in padded cells to protect everyone else!!!!!!!!!!
 
you know what they say...a little bit of knowledge in the wrong hands is more dangerous than no knowledge at all... my yard is full of people who have read a lot of books and spend their whole time criticising others when they don't have a clue! i find it best to smile and keep to myself!
 
The worst thing is that those people who have good knowledge, do everything possible for their horses/ponies seem to have horses that get sick/injured whilst those who really don't know and don't care just seem to get away with it
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I agree 100% with Bugbee... how many stupid people do you see with dogs they have no idea how to look after, horses they think are pets that can be kept in a back garden and interesting pets that lose their interest when they realise they have to get off their lazy butts and look after them? I don't have a horse (I'd love one but know I haven't realistically got the time to devote to one) but unfortunately there are too many stupid people in this country who think they can do whatever they want and couldn't care less if, when it all goes wrong, an animal is injured or worse.

I think we need to licence horses and dogs.. but how would it be policed? The people who cared who spend the time and money to do things properly and the usual muppet suspects would just not bother and nothing would be done about it!

Sadly, while animals are seen by some as a right, not a privilege, this will continue
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The worst thing is that those people who have good knowledge, do everything possible for their horses/ponies seem to have horses that get sick/injured whilst those who really don't know and don't care just seem to get away with it
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Just what I was thinking and that person who you have described with the injured horse is me.Feeling really sorry for my boy today hes looking so bored hes been injured for so long I cant wait for the summer so he can have a bit more turnout.Having a sad day fed up with him having treatment and injections
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yer i agree with little donkey as i take great pride in my horses however i always seem to end up with the vets bills whlist the numptys get away with it scot free
 
I think they are everywhere to be honest, I've come across a fair few, got a couple on my yard at the min. The worst has to be the couple who bought a 11mth old filly (trakaner x cob I think) for their 3 daughters, the eldest was 13 and none of them including the parents had never ever owned a pet before let alone knew anything about horses! YO at the time told them time and time again to sell it, she offered to find something a bit more suitable as they were dead set on owning a horse, they were having none of it, moved it away and the last I heard it was dangerous in the stable and field and they were considering PTS, I haven't heard anything of it since.
Luckily this is the worst - the other people that annoy me with horses are currently only guilty of being idiots in charge of horses most of them have been bobbing along this way for many years, without coming to any harm - god knows how IMO but they have.
Muppets with horses really do get on my wick and makes me want to win the lottery even more so I can escape livery hell!!
 
I'm afraid escaping from livery only puts a little distance between you and the muppets. My OH owns her own paddock land.

There is a large field below ours and one to one side and both look like someone is actively cultivating ragwort in the summer. Both have horses in, and no one pulls the ragwort. When we have spoken to some of the horse owners they are always 'about to have a pulling party' or 'intend to have it sprayed' but it never happens.

Muppets are everywhere in the horse (and every other) world I'm afraid.
 
People like this really p**s me off. I remember a few years ago, my then YO (who I am still good friends with) was given a horse to bring on and sell. Gorgeous creature, lovely paces etc, but was young and if allowed to get his own way turned into a complete s***. YO sorted the horse out, had him going really well, and woman came to see him with view to buy. Absolutely loved him, thought he was brill and agreed to buy - YO explained that she would need to be firm with horse, else he would likely revert to old habits, and new owner was adamant she could handle it fine. A month or so later, YO got a call saying horse had turned evil and the new owner was sending it back. This woman had basically ignored all advice given, let the horse get away with being naughty - and hey presto, it kept on misbehaving, until she couldn't deal with it. It's not like the YO had just sold her a dodgy horse - the woman was given pretty basic instructions on how to keep the horse going well, all she had to do was follow them and she'd have been fine, but it appeared that she chose to do things her way then wondered why things didn't work out!
 
Quite shocking!!

So a lot of horse owners knew this poor horse had not been out of its box for two months and DID NOTHING.

One of the reasons BEVA and equine welfare org. wanted licensing for livery is because of the welfare problems which occur in Livery yards where 'clever' people gossip about the owner but do nothing to help the horse.

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Rollin - the yard is a DIY yard with people keeping their own timetables. A was telling people she was taking the horse out once a day to lunge and graze in hand - it was only after her accident she admitted she had ben lying
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I remember being on one Hell of a yard. An experienced lady encouraged a very novice lady with two very very unhappy horses to swap her ruined TB for a 8 month cob.

She'd bought the 16.2 hh TB mare despite never having a riding lesson, of course she went downhill and was branded a nut which she certainly wasn't as I rode and started bringing her back into work myself.

I couldn't watch her be mistreated so stopped after she wanted her 8yo to ride her when I was long reining her - was starting her slowly and gently over a couple of weeks - got shouted at etc for getting huffy about that one lol. The owner lunged her over 2'9 jumps over and over again until the horse was raw "Oh she's being lazy". It was a shame she done that was it was only me there.

The TB went straight for meat although no one told the owner that. Once she had the cob the experienced person took joy in slagging her off. Why encourage her in the first place?

I hate Bristol livery yards. I'm sure there's some good ones but the ones I encountered were a nightmare.
 
I think an awful lot of this kind of thing is to do with ego and control.

I see so many people riding in our area who have BIG horses and yet never move faster than a walk and look terrified every time they encounter other riders. They are completely over horsed (not just size wise), but having a 16.3 hh TB (or whatever) makes them feel big and important, and the ego side won't allow them to admit they are wrong.

I had my ego beaten out of me, during 25 years of Martial Arts training (thank goodness), I only wish I could do the same to some folks around here, for the benefit of their horses.
 
If BEVA get their way this would not happen - DIY would not free the yard owner of responsibility. If a yard is properly supervised then it is not possible for the proprieter to say - 'it weren't me gov. I didn't see nuffing'. If it is your business it is your business to know what is going on.

I had issues with a yard in central scotland where an ignorant owner did a full clip on his brood mare for a show and then left her out all winter in a field with no protection from the elements. She stood out un rugged in -8C. The farmer said it was nothing to do with him. I contacted ILPH and lent owner an old rug which fitted well. This helped her throught the worst on the winter until she shredded it because he didn't check her every day.
 
A few years ago at our old yard there was a horse who broke out of a breeze block stable by hammering the wall down it was so frustrated at being kept in 24/7, the teenage owner thought it would get chilly being turned out in winter and was better 'tucked up in bed'. It was only 4 at the time and didn't get ridden because it was lively when it lived in!
 
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