Vodkagirly
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Are arnica tablets safe for horses? Mine has a corn which is taking a while to heal and wondered if this could speed it along. Farrier has been and dug it out.
Arnica?
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rhino
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Yes, homeopathic arnica tablets only contain lactose (not even arnica, but hey 
) so are harmless. Completely ineffective, but harmless.
) so are harmless. Completely ineffective, but harmless.
Batgirl
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I would say safe but you would have to spend a fortune to get a decent dose??
rhino
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No such thing as a 'decent dose' if you are discussing homeopathy, the more dilute the substance, the stronger the effect according to the laws of homeopathy.
NiceChristmasBaubles
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Yes, homeopathic arnica tablets only contain lactose (not even arnica, but hey
Saw the title to this thread and was going to suggest you asked Rhino - doh... she got there first!
igglepop
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If your using arnica, use the cream, messy but its the only time i have seen it work.
rhino
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But be careful as there are increasing reports of adverse effects, and the FDA has even reclassified it as an 'unsafe herb'
Good general nutrition, a decent farrier and time should sort it
Nugget La Poneh
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I am curious as to why Arnica? This is normally for bruising and strains? If there is swelling you could try the cream and put in round the area.
Look into using Hypericum cream (don't think should be a problem for horses)
Look into using Hypericum cream (don't think should be a problem for horses)
Vodkagirly
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Rhino is the cream homeopathic as well? I've had great results with the cream on myself but since this is a hoof I doubt it would absorb hence the tablet thought.
rhino
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No, the cream is classified as a herbal medicine, and unlike homeopathic arnica, it actually does contain arnica! I know a few people who swear by it, but as said before, it can have side effects, the same as any drug.
Vodkagirly
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I am curious as to why Arnica? This is normally for bruising and strains? If there is swelling you could try the cream and put in round the area.
Look into using Hypericum cream (don't think should be a problem for horses)
A corn is basically a bruise as i understand it.
Marydoll
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Ive used both tablet and gel with witch hazel to good effect for bruising an inflammation, just dont put it on broken skin
Nugget La Poneh
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People swear by Kevin BAcon dressing/cornucresine etc. and they all get put on hooves and soles...
It'll all get absorbed, just maybe not as quickly as it might've done if put on the muzzle for instance
Batgirl
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You know I feel like a bit of a twit, I don't know if you have ever heard Dara O'Briain's Homeopathy rant and I have been reading a book about it as it drives me wild but I never realised Arnica was homeopathic!!!!!
Nugget La Poneh
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But you said the farrier had dug it all out?
Arnica will help if there is remaining bruising, but I was working on basis that it had been cut out.
Providing your horse doesn't react to arnica, then it won't do any harm either way.
rhino
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You know I feel like a bit of a twit, I don't know if you have ever heard Dara O'Briain's Homeopathy rant and I have been reading a book about it as it drives me wild but I never realised Arnica was homeopathic!!!!!
Well homeopathic arnica is homeopathic, yes, so if it's in a little bottle or sugar pills then it is homeopathy.
Herbal arnica, that is a cream in a tube, isn't homeopathic
Nugget La Poneh
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Well homeopathic arnica is homeopathic, yes, so if it's in a little bottle or sugar pills then it is homeopathy.
Herbal arnica, that is a cream in a tube, isn't homeopathic
Rhino - so these homeopathic:
But this isn't?
(available in other brands, just I happened to have this brand in the house to look at
)All because the cream actually contains the active ingredient?
So if the pills don't contain anything, why are they sold?
Surely not just the placebo effect?
rhino
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Rhino - so these homeopathic:
But this isn't?
You are correct
All because the cream actually contains the active ingredient?
Yes, it is a herbal product
So if the pills don't contain anything, why are they sold?
Because people buy them, and they believe it works. Countless scientific studies prove otherwise.
Surely not just the placebo effect?
Don't underestimate the power of placebo, it is absolutely amazing. Blue pills work better than red, two pills are better than one, and an injection (of sugar, naturally) is better yet...
The precepts (laws of homeopathy) state that a substance becomes more potent the more times it is diluted, as long as succussion takes place (tapping the bottle between dilutions). Even though it is scientifically impossible that at the more dilute preparations even a single molecule of arnica is present (avogadro's law) the theory is that water can hold a 'memory' of something it has once been in contact with, a sort of vibrational energy which is passed on. How water only remembers that particular memory, and not of all the people it has passed through (and all the piss/poo it has passed out of them in) is a subject of much debate. As is the fact that all homeopathic preparations are water soluble, so surely any water on the planet already contains the whole gamut in saturation.
Still they do no harm
RubysGold
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Gawd, learn something new every day :O
I have used those tablets on my horse, could have sworn they worked.... Oops!
I never knew it was homeopathic, another case of placebo working on me
I have used those tablets on my horse, could have sworn they worked.... Oops!
I never knew it was homeopathic, another case of placebo working on me