Arthritis injections in US v. UK

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I'm an American expat, living in the UK since 2006. Anyway, a horse belonging to a friend of mine is starting to have troubles with arthritis this year, to the point where she is cutting back on his work, basically only riding him in walk. The vet has suggested she bute him on days he seems especially sore and otherwise keep him moving as much as she can. That's it.

The vet hasn't suggested giving the horse injections directly into the joint, nor has he suggested putting him on a course of Legend or Adequan injections. Adequan is the brand name of injectible polysulfated glycosaminoglycan, and Legend is injectible hyaluronate sodium. According to a vet at Colorado State University (better for me to quote than get the technical stuff wrong), “Adequan incorporates itself into the cartilage and tries to normalize the flexibility and the composition of the cartilage itself. They’ve tested it, so they know it gets to the joint. They put a radioactive dye on it and then injected it into the horse, and then they look at the joint and it lights up in the cartilage." It's an IM injection.

Of Legend, this same vet says, "it’s hyaluronic acid. It’s a mechanical lubricant and an anti-inflammatory when it’s put into a joint. There are lots of different brands of hyaluronic acid that people put into joints (Hyvisc, Hylartin V two other examples), and Legend is one of them. When it’s injected intravenously, it’s an anti-inflammatory, and it also finds its way to joints and acts as a lubricant."

Vets also inject corticosteroids, hylaluronate acid, and polysulfated glycosaminoglycan directly into the joint. It treats inflammation and helps the joint heal, though it won't fix damage that's already there.

My barn in Colorado was like a shooting gallery. A majority of the horses were on this stuff, and it seemed to prolong their working lives. My old horse was on Legend and had hock injections, and it gave her a few more years of doing dressage comfortably. What I find bewildering is that I have never come across it here. Not with my friend's horse nor any other. Never seen a vet even offer it. Are the drugs not approved? Is there another reason?
 
The evidence in humans is limited - and there is a lot less research in animals... in my experience of human medicine on both sides of the Atlantic is that North America over treats and the uk under treats...
 
My boy had his elbow injected with corticosteroids and hyaluronic acid (HA) about 2 years ago and hasn't looked back, except for a slight wobble about this time last year. When my vet saw him he felt he wasn't bad enough to warrant a 2nd injection as injecting into the joint obviously carries risk. He did have an IM (I think, might have been IV) HA injection and he's been pretty good ever since. My vet explained that HA research had moved on and there was no need to inject that into the joint any more, it would be as effective (and would have the benefit of potentially treating more than one joint) as a general injection.

I understand not injecting directly into the joint if it can be avoided, but don't see why vets would be reluctant to use IM/IV injections unless the evidence base isn't really there yet? My old boy was treated with Catrophen about 15 years back but I understand that's not so widely used now as other products are more effective.
 
I’ve often wondered the same. My sister lives in Virginia and had all her older horses on regular systemic Adequan injections. Didn’t even need the vet to do it.
 
Two of mine have regular injections for neck, stifle and hock arthritis but never heard of the drugs you mention OP? The only name I can remember is Arthrimid? The horse with the neck (and hock) problem hasn’t had the neck injected since last December, but did have to have her hocks done last week which is the first time since she last had her neck done in December. The other horse doesn’t fair quite so well. It’s his stifles that seem to give the most trouble. He has just had the platelet procedure done and is currently on 5 weeks box rest with walking in hand daily. He also had kissing spine surgery which was successful 2 1/2 years ago so he’s just a walking sick note really!
 
Adequan used to be used a lot over here-are they less popular now?

My experience from living in the US back in the 90s, was that many were on quite alot of bute to keep them in work. I am not against buting to keep a horse happy in work but there is a level whereby I feel its unethical. I have little with Legend/Adequan but wasnt aware it wasn't widely used anymore. I had a horse treated with IRAP also which helped him alot but just recently that seems to be off the radar as well.
 
The evidence in humans is limited - and there is a lot less research in animals... in my experience of human medicine on both sides of the Atlantic is that North America over treats and the uk under treats...

I’d support this.
These types of IM joint support drugs are widely available in the US and far far cheaper than in the UK. There is some scientific evidence to support them but it’s not mind blowing. That said, at the right price I’d put my money into IM support rather than the range of expensive (and mostly useless) oral joint supplements fed in the UK.
A lot of performance and racehorses over here are routinely maintained on IM joint support, many prophylacticly. It hasn’t filtered down to the amateur market though, mainly because if you were to buy cartrophen from the Vets it is very expensive
 
I’m in the UK. My vet prescribes Cartrophen, I buy it online and inject it myself. It’s more expensive than in the US, but a heck of a lot cheaper than buying from the vet and paying them to do it. I have an understanding vet, though.
 
Two of mine have regular injections for neck, stifle and hock arthritis but never heard of the drugs you mention OP? The only name I can remember is Arthrimid? The horse with the neck (and hock) problem hasn’t had the neck injected since last December, but did have to have her hocks done last week which is the first time since she last had her neck done in December. The other horse doesn’t fair quite so well. It’s his stifles that seem to give the most trouble. He has just had the platelet procedure done and is currently on 5 weeks box rest with walking in hand daily. He also had kissing spine surgery which was successful 2 1/2 years ago so he’s just a walking sick note really!

Adequan has been used for years in sports/racehorses in the UK. It is very expensive and not always effective. It is an easy injection anyone can do so in theory you would think it would be more popular. My horse has intarticular injections for arthritis. I enquired about Cartrophen however the cost given it can be of little effect in some horses puts me off. I know if he is bad bute will work so I stick with that.
 
My horse has corticosteroids and hyluronic acid periodically (every 4-6 months) for his fetlock arthritis. All the other horses I know in the area with arthritis have regular injections as well. I'm not sure why a vet wouldn't suggest them, has the owner asked?

I would say that 'preventative' injections don't tend to happen here very often as there is no evidence to support their usage, although I know they are far more common in the US.
 
We had a course of Adequan for my oldest mare when her arthritis first flared up, which helped hugely. The vets didn't suggest keeping her on it long term, but it gave enough of a clue to what was wrong that they found the right joint to inject with steroid etc. She has only had one injection. Vets seem to recommend supplements over injections long term.
 
I’m in the UK. My vet prescribes Cartrophen, I buy it online and inject it myself. It’s more expensive than in the US, but a heck of a lot cheaper than buying from the vet and paying them to do it. I have an understanding vet, though.

I did the same with cartophen in 2010. My vet hasn't seen that much benefit to using it, and didn't suggest it when I had an arthritic issue with another horse. I think there is fairly limited evidence cartrophen into the muscle is beneficial for many arthritic horses. Seems to be so for some and not others. I think it has lost wide scale popularity, as results in UK not been there. I think cartrophen = adequan?

Intra joint injections steroid / HA combinations short and long acting are fairly commonly used for arthritic joints in UK. But not without risks or a very long term solution. Not suitable for laminitic risk or metabolic horses. All joint injections carry an infection risk. Vets do generally want nerve blocks and x-rays to confirm which joint and that will help before will inject, and this is in the region of £300-500 before inject. Some uk owners when offered steroid injections into joints to carry on riding say no. It is seen as less acceptable and a more serious step for amateur owners than it is in the UK. Professional UK riders typically do a lot of regular injecting of joints with steroids, and injecting high level horses regularly is very common.
 
Just a totally different culture, then. In the US, the mantra is 'when in doubt, give it Cartophen/Adequan/Legend.' I don't remember it being that expensive but it was a long time ago. I asked my friend yesterday if she considered injections and she said there isn't enough evidence that Cartophen works. I don't know... It has been around for a long time in the US and if you look up at US studies, it suggests there are benefits to both Adequan and Legend for many horses. My friend (a human doctor) said that joint injections do work but seemed to think it kind of crazy to do that for a 21-year old pleasure horse. Whereas Americans will do it for a 21-year old horse to keep it going.

I paid about $800 in 1999 or thereabouts to have hock injections done on my horse. It's not cheap there, either, and requires x-rays so you know you're injecting the right joint. But amateur owners with pleasure horses do it anyway. Arguably people take it too far and will do prophylactic joint injections on young, sound horses. There is no evidence that shows that it prevents arthritis and justifies the risk of infection, but horse people be crazy.
 
One of ours had a course of adaquan about 14 years ago. She ended up having it in three different joints for different problems. There has been no problem since. Several of ours have had steroid injections into various things with different levels of success.
My vet suggested cartrophen as a helper for competing with older horses.
 
No personal experience, although I think that competition horses (must) have joint injections. Wasn't there an ariticle about in in last week's Horse and Hound. There have been cases where the joint has become infected, there was one very well known horse that died, but reading the very carefully worded statement it was pretty obvious what had happened, although this was some time ago now.

This is quite interesting because I stopped competiting on my horse as he is on 1/2 Danilion per day for arthritis, so that means that if he had an injection instead which wouldn't show up in a drugs test I could start taking him to shows again?

I don't know about USA v. UK except that some things are allowed in racing that are not allowed in UK racehorses.
 
This is quite interesting because I stopped competiting on my horse as he is on 1/2 Danilion per day for arthritis, so that means that if he had an injection instead which wouldn't show up in a drugs test I could start taking him to shows again?

Normally vets don't recommend long term danilon for a competing horse, if there is an easy steroid option. It might be multiple joints, or a high activity joint where joint actions aren't very successful. See what vet says. <fingers crossed>
 
One of my horses is treated by a vet who specialises in loss of performance/lameness issues. The horse has his coffing joint medicated every 9 months or so & he still competes & enjoys his job. The injection increases the viscosity of the joint fluid & the horse is now moving beautifully. Certainly speak to your vet about doing this procedure. This procedure cures the issue for long periods, bute just masks them!
 
IME HA or steroid/HA joint injections are used fairly frequently when needed over here. Less so they systemics but I can understand why.
 
Just a totally different culture, then. In the US, the mantra is 'when in doubt, give it Cartophen/Adequan/Legend.' I don't remember it being that expensive but it was a long time ago. I asked my friend yesterday if she considered injections and she said there isn't enough evidence that Cartophen works. I don't know... It has been around for a long time in the US and if you look up at US studies, it suggests there are benefits to both Adequan and Legend for many horses. My friend (a human doctor) said that joint injections do work but seemed to think it kind of crazy to do that for a 21-year old pleasure horse. Whereas Americans will do it for a 21-year old horse to keep it going.

I paid about $800 in 1999 or thereabouts to have hock injections done on my horse. It's not cheap there, either, and requires x-rays so you know you're injecting the right joint. But amateur owners with pleasure horses do it anyway. Arguably people take it too far and will do prophylactic joint injections on young, sound horses. There is no evidence that shows that it prevents arthritis and justifies the risk of infection, but horse people be crazy.

Within humans at least there is actually evidence that steroid injections into the joint actually speed up the deterioration of the cartilage long term - they provide shorter (1-12 months typically) relief from symptoms but deterioration long term
 
Personally I think it’s absolutely mind boggling how often horses in the US have intra-articular injections, even as young as 3 and 4 years old. Any slight lameness seems to result in stifle, hock or fetlock injections.

Personally, I think, that if your horse needs injections at 4 years old, you really need to rethink the type of work and amount of work your horse is doing...
 
One of my horses is treated by a vet who specialises in loss of performance/lameness issues. The horse has his coffing joint medicated every 9 months or so & he still competes & enjoys his job. The injection increases the viscosity of the joint fluid & the horse is now moving beautifully. Certainly speak to your vet about doing this procedure. This procedure cures the issue for long periods, bute just masks them!

could you PM me, I have a horse I've had to retire due to an issue in his coffin joint and who didn't respond to two injections, but would be interested to know if there are other options when it comes to joint injections
 
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