As a general comment...

alleycat

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I was rather surprised at the very final official line from the Horse and Hound Advertising Manager (no queries or replies allowed) to Rainbowrider's post regarding the wrong phone number being shown on her advertisement- twice.

So, as a general rule; is it Horse and Hound's policy NOT to apologise publicly (i.e. on the advertisment) for mistakes which its advertising section have made, and which might prejudice the sale not only by losing customers through misdirection, but by making the animal look as if nobody wants it? Others who have rung the (wrong) phone number, possibly twice, aren't going to waste their time ringing again, unless the error is noted, with apology, by H&H.

H&H are supposed to be the cream of the advertising outlets- the charges are enourmous and its human nature to infer that only horses worth having are going to be advertised here; but for this advertiser this advantage has been blown.

From what I've read, the H&H advertising manager is also unable to distinguish between compensation and a refund; this poster doesn't seem to have receieved compensation so much as a refund for an advert which was positively damaging.

This, plus the tart reply from an advertising manager who should really be a bit more clued up over public relations, is pretty disappointing from an institution like H&H.

I suggest a FREE advert and an honest apology, in print, is appropriate under these circumstances, bearing in mind that someone thus inconvenienced could have advertised in Horse Deals etc. for peanuts and could have had their horse sold a fortnight ago.
 
Hear hear.
Bad customer service IMO, and even worse PR to say it all on here!
ETS: having re-read the reply though, it seems H&H do not in fact want to discuss it on a public forum. Good for them although I shall not be advertising with H&H as I have heard too many stories about wrong phone numbers printed!
 
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That sounds really bad. Well said OP. Sort it out H & H!
 
I have to say, sadly, that the advertising section of H & H has been of appalling quality for some years. When I placed an advert by phone for puppies which was spelt wrongly in print, I made a point of telling them I wasn't happy with the quality of it, the spelling, wrong phone numbers, wrong captions for adverts, adverts in wrong sections ( from what I remember, a grey gelding is not a HOUSE for sale!
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) and so on. I was told it's because the classified staff aren't 'horse literate', they're likely to be drafted in from any of the IPC offices so basically haven't a clue what anything is about and wouldn't know a dun from a done; it means nothing to them. It also has to be said, that many spelling errors are the advertiser's own in the first place; it's apparent, even on here, that spelling standards are not always the highest or a priority!
From being the best in the world, a position it held for many years, it's almost become a laughing stock, great shame.
 
It interested me just as much to see that HHOAdmin had found Rainbowrider's threads.....
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I enjoyed Steve's response to her thread though - how transparent eh?
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For the price, they really should be able to get it right. The various companies (none mentioned....but you know who I mean) who do it for next to nothing, always try to get it right, as it is their neck on the line. If you b**ger up, then people ain't going to spend their money there.
I have noticed that in certain sections, especially 15hh and under, other websites have many more pages....try 14.2hh and 2000 quid on the site...there is only one page!
 
Well I have to say I know nothing about their service - good or bad with adverts so cannot comment. But I did not feel there was anything wrong with their reply and apology at all! I have been in business for many years and run my own business too and that was a polite and prompt response to a problem. At the end of the day we are all human and make mistakes, I accept that to get it wrong a second time is pretty bad and I would not tolerate the mistake once never mind twice in my business. But they have apologised and obviously responded as they mention they have paid compensation to the advertiser...whether this is a refund, part refund etc is neither here nor there, it is the gesture and acceptance that they made a mistake and are trying to put it right.
If someone is interested in an advert they will ring and find out regardless of how many times it may or may not have been advertised. If people think there is something wrong with the horse because it has been advertised a couple of times then they are only loosing out to their own assumptions and predudices!
 
Their rather casual attitude to their mistakes is not very good. When you are paying £250 to advertise your horse & they get it wrong...twice, isn't very good at all. How many times have you read adverts in this magasine & the picture clearly doesn't match up with the description?

To insert a line in the advert saying 're-advertised due to wrong telephone number' shouldn't cause them too many problems , should it?
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H&H is allegedly the leading Horse magasine & as such need to set a good example & get things right, specially with the amount they charge for an advert. To see them closing a thread due to them being subject of adverse comment does not bode well.
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To see them closing a thread due to them being subject of adverse comment does not bode well.

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My feelings exactly: and I strongly suspect the OPs wish to post the matter on a public forum is actually a result of the "Like it or lump it" attitude that shows through in the Advertising Manager's answer, rather than a rant at the mistake(s) as such.

I'm afraid under these circumstances even the apology comes across as "I've SAID sorry, now go away and stop bothering me!"

If the private response was equally dismissive, no wonder the OP went public.

Curiously, the wording suggests that even the Advertising Manager realises that the "compensation" of not having to pay for something you haven't had is not a full recompense; and the refusal to do anything about this, even in a limited way (free advert? apology/explanation where it counts?) suggests a contempt for its clientele which will damage H&H in the long run far more than admitting a mistake (or two
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