Asking others to pay your vet fees for a 33 year old...am i the only one who thinks..

I was going to bid on an item in her fb auction,as i felt she was trying her best to clear her vets bills,then i spotted her buying a duvet set off another site....so came to the conclusion she obviously has some money & sod her!!!
Have to agree with all the others the yard owner has been an absalute star & has kept everybody locally informed & if i ever wanted to move yards this is where i would try to go first although obviously as long as owner of 33year has done the decent thing & put the old boy down.Better a day to early than a day to late & unfortunatley this lad is going to be the latter due to her not being able to let go.
I do believe she has a mental illness & is on treatment for being bipolar...but im sorry it's no excuse! I do question whether a welfare organisation needs to get involved but i also trust the yard owner to be keeping a very close eye on the situation & i so feel for her having to put up with this individual & all her personal attacks on those around her!!!x
 
flitz02 said:
I do believe she has a mental illness & is on treatment for being bipolar...but im sorry it's no excuse! I do question whether a welfare organisation needs to get involved but i also trust the yard owner to be keeping a very close eye on the situation & i so feel for her having to put up with this individual & all her personal attacks on those around her!!!x
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But we are not 'attacking' her. Should we pat her on the back and go 'there there' whilst an animal suffers?

Having a mental illness, im affraid, is no excuse. I have suffered from severe depression in the past and PTSD, but delicia's welfare always came first. Just because she is ill doesnt mean we should pander to her and pussy-foot around her. Thats what really annoys me, if she were not ill, would you have the same viewpoint i wonder?

They say ignorance is bliss, but this lady doesnt seem ignorant in the fact she wasnt aware. There are a lot of people surrounding her giving her fab advice, but instead she would pull the bully card, play the victim and ignore them. Pulling winky smiles and smart arsed comments do nothing to help her horse but more to flatter her ego (her actions not yours btw).
 
Delicious_D said:
But we are not 'attacking' her. Should we pat her on the back and go 'there there' whilst an animal suffers?

Having a mental illness, im affraid, is no excuse. I have suffered from severe depression in the past and PTSD, but delicia's welfare always came first. Just because she is ill doesnt mean we should pander to her and pussy-foot around her. Thats what really annoys me, if she were not ill, would you have the same viewpoint i wonder?

They say ignorance is bliss, but this lady doesnt seem ignorant in the fact she wasnt aware. There are a lot of people surrounding her giving her fab advice, but instead she would pull the bully card, play the victim and ignore them. Pulling winky smiles and smart arsed comments do nothing to help her horse but more to flatter her ego (her actions not yours btw).
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Please read my post again i was not saying in any shape or form that you were attacking her!!!!....I was actually agreeing with almost everything you had said!!! i was merely pointing out that she has a label of being unstable & it in my opinion also doesnt defend her for any of her behaviour & treatment of her horse or those around her!...thus i trust the yard owner to call in the welfare organisations should the horse deterioate!!!!! The fact that the item i was going to buy was the same price as the duvet cover she wanted off another site was where i realised she was taking the piss & in fact i would be buying her a new duvet cover rather than helping her pay for her vets bill!!!".....now thats wrong!!.x
 
flitz02 said:

Please read my post again i was not saying in any shape or form that you were attacking her!!!!....I was actually agreeing with almost everything you had said!!! i was merely pointing out that she has a label of being unstable & it in my opinion also doesnt defend her for any of her behaviour & treatment of her horse or those around her!...thus i trust the yard owner to call in the welfare organisations should the horse deterioate!!!!! The fact that the item i was going to buy was the same price as the duvet cover she wanted off another site was where i realised she was taking the piss & in fact i would be buying her a new duvet cover rather than helping her pay for her vets bill!!!".....now thats wrong!!.x
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OOPS, sorry. :)

It doesnt suprise me she was going to do that!
 
I've been having a good think about this all day, as well as trying to find ways of feeding some local horses whose owner has gone on holiday leaving her 80 yr old dad in sole charge of 2 horses (one a 24 ex racer who apparently has a fab record, god help him now). They are living ina bog (literally half the field is under water), she hasn't left any hay, so dad struggles the good half mile down the road on his walking stick trying to balance 2 small buckets of chaff....

Anyhow, that is a different story but has a commonality to me. i usually keep my self to myself and rarely get involved as it always back fires nastily. But reading a post above who says when she last saw Fred he looked so depressed, the light gone from his eyes, i really can't bear it. I have a 24 year old Warmblood who is more precious than gold to me - the minute the light fades fro his eyes it will be the rainbow bridge for him.These old horses owe us nothing and we owe every duty of care to them.

Just the thought of a geniune old boy, no doubt riddled with arthritis in every joint without any pain or joint relief, being made to continue to work just kills me.

So I'm going to contact the YO of said yard throuh the FB page to make enquiries after Fred. Maybe point her in the direction of this thread, or maybe not if the owner is still active on here? Anyhow it might just be a way of getting news as to how Fred is doing and what lies ahead for him.

If any of you think this is a really bad idea, for whatever reason, please do let me know as I can be a bit blind somtimes where animal welfare is involved. Thank you XXX
 
I am the person that was going to go and clip Fred. I last saw him in I think July or August last year and he was looking fine then. I will state here though, as I have stated already to the woman involved, I will not clip unwell horse or any horse for whom clipping would be detrimental to health or recovery. I will also not risk other horses by having contact with any horse that has Strangles.

So, Fred will not be clipped, at least not by me. Advice has been offered and I hope it is taken regarding the sale or raffle of goods.

The important thing here is the horse, not the person. Fred is under the watchful eyes of a responsible yard owner. Let's all just hope and pray he gets what he needs...whatever that may be.
 
Just thought I would add in the interestof transparency that I don't actually know the owner of Fred or the YO. I have met Fred's owner when reuniting her with her runaway dog andother than that, everything I know is from the facebook group.
 
While unlevel/sound and clearly unhappy and not right with the swishy tail etc. the youtube vids show a good looking horse for the supposed age it is, and well schooled at some point. And if she doesn't see the horse as often as she should (which is suggested here) then you'd think she'd see the difference in him - I know I can if i have been away for a week with mine, and most others would with theirs too.

I often see posts asking for free stuff (even saddles for 18 month olds) on the local FB page and it takes all the will in the world for me not to put in capitals that if you can't afford a haynet for your new horse then you shouldn't have a horse.
 
The video of her cantering the poor boy really really upset me. Horse clearly very unhappy & at times found it hard to balance because of rider weight it looks like.
Clearly she doesnt' have the horses best intentions at heart at all:mad:
She doesn't deserved to own him
 
She's blocked me for very very politely and tactfully suggesting she didn't work him so hard the last time she came up on here, so quite relieved I can't see the pictures this time if it's so bad :(
 
I think what is also pretty worrying is the comments here about her backing the 13.2 cob she has :/

I have nothing against larger riders if they are suited to their mount and it doesnt cause any health issues...but seriously this is just delusional thinking she would be suitable to back this pony?!

All I can say is thank god she may have seen some sense is is now selling it.

http://www.facebook.com/andreajwh#!...79608.99311610.100000200499326&type=3&theater
 
Something else I've just noticed, heavy rider, ancient horse and she hacks him in spurs! Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this is wrong, that if you need spurs when hacking out an old codger that maybe it's time to call it a day?
 
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I don't usually comment on things like this ... but this really rattled my cage and made me think maybe I shouldn't have retired my 27yr old 17hh wb x tb because I thought I was getting to heavy for him at 10 stone! And maybe when he dropped so much weight he looked like a hat rack, no amount of feed would help and no amount of blood test showed anything abnormal, I should have kept him in work anyway and not had him pts. But the difference is I didn't know how much he was suffering and that was killing me, I didn't want to keep him alive for my sake. why can other people not do the same thing when it is obviously for the best. Lets be honest, this poor horse is nota spring chicken, nor is he getting any younger!

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.ph...27682643.36839.100000200499326&type=3&theater

The comment she makes on this ... I'm sorry but at the age he is ... it is highly unlikely he will ever look like this again.
 
I haven't commented nor wish to air my own opinion on it....but with risk of getting turned on, and whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I can't help but sit back, take a think and realise this is an actual person being spoke about very much obviously publicly on here.

Again, opinions either way on right or wrong... my only opinion is I'd be mortified [and fuming] knowing I was being 'discussed' openly on the internent from people who didn't know me. :o
 
Agree with ChristmasSparkles - ok so the original post about asking to pay for vets fees fine and yes, I do think it's cheeky. As for the rest, wow what a judgemental lot, it's almost stalkerlike the way her photos are taken apart and "discussed" :o
 
I don't think anyone will jump on you Christmas Sparkle, I think you raise a good point, this is a human being, possibily a vulnerable one.

For me, personally, I started out quite sympathetic but I'm really struggling to hang on to that today. I guess if you're openly soliciting donations of things to auction to pay for your elderly sick horse's vet bills whilst also openly arranging to view a possibly pregnant Arab mare people are going to talk about that.
 
skint1 said:
I don't think anyone will jump on you Christmas Sparkle, I think you raise a good point, this is a human being, possibily a vulnerable one.

For me, personally, I started out quite sympathetic but I'm really struggling to hang on to that today. I guess if you're openly soliciting donations of things to auction to pay for your elderly sick horse's vet bills whilst also openly arranging to view a possibly pregnant Arab mare people are going to talk about that.
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That's a very valid point, again, I'll keep my opinions to myself.

I'd just always think about the bigger picture. Most never 'know' the people being discussed. There could be so many other issues or problems going on, not horse related, who knows what reading or knowing about such a heated post could potentially cause.

Possibly a very very thin chance of that happening, but again, you never know.

The case of the receptionist at the hospital comes to mind. Which again, my opinion on that was there was probably a lot more going on behind closed doors with her, but still ultimately, timed in quite badly with the haux call. :o
 
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You also raise a good point, we don't know the bigger picture or how what we say could impact that, I would hate to *really* hurt anyone, even if I'm annoyed with them.
 
nixharveandpri said:
Agree with ChristmasSparkles - ok so the original post about asking to pay for vets fees fine and yes, I do think it's cheeky. As for the rest, wow what a judgemental lot, it's almost stalkerlike the way her photos are taken apart and "discussed" :o
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Agree with these two posters... cheeky but not worth the indignation of some of these posters! The 1st picture I clicked on was of a very happy and well looking Fred enjoying the snow. Taken December 2012.
And let's all slate people for asking or getting sponsorship. After all, if you want to compete shouldn't you use your own money? :confused:
 
mainpower said:
And let's all slate people for asking or getting sponsorship. After all, if you want to compete shouldn't you use your own money? :confused:
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Asking for sponsorship for competing and the huge costs that involves can not be compared to someone begging for money to cover the 'normal' up keep costs of a horse....that is not on at all...
 
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