Assessing my horses fitness

Mythical

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I keep saying my horse is just a little bit unfit and that I need to work it, but to be honest, I have no idea how fit or unfit she is or how fit or unfit she should be.

Weight wise, I'd say she's somewhere between a 2 and a 2.5. (using the five point scale) I want to put a bit more on her but not much. The only real workout she gets at the moment is schooling, and I tend to do a little over an hour, mostly trot, steadily increasing the canter work, but with lots of walk breaks, until she tells me she's tired, then we do another few minutes. We also hack out in walk with a little bit of trot, for about 30-45 minutes, once a week(ish). I don't want to do too much because it's all roadwork and she's unshod and drags her feet. We have nowhere to have a long, straight canter or gallop and I don't think I have the control to do that yet anyway. If we're jumping, our sessions are much shorter, maybe 45 minutes again with lots of walk breaks but we don't jump often. I intended to make it once or twice a week, but the reality is, I'm too lazy to set jumps up and put them down again. We only jump up to about 85cm at the moment.
In all, she's ridden five times a week now. Last year (around april) she collapsed and we think it was due to overwork and lack of correct food (communication failure between owner and sharer) so I'm wary of doing too much with her. She had a day off yesterday because shes had 4 schooling days in a row (we normally do 2 days in the school, an easy hack, 2 more days in the school and a day off then start again) definitely looked tired.
I want to do some RC dressage and jumping this summer and maybe one ODE towards the end of the year.

I read a guide saying a horse ridden three times a week should be capable of a days hunting, so should my horse, ridden five times a week be capable of a 1.5 hour walk, a 45 minute lesson and a 1.5 hour walk back?
 
I have ridden a horse 45 mins walk/trot to lesson, 45 min lesson and the return journey on a similar workload to you, so if you leave enough time for a 15 min break once you get there and a break before you return (and offer haynet and water both breaks) I would think that is fine on your current workload. You could introduce some longer hacks once or twice a week to help.

HOWEVER the collapse would seriously worry me. It would take a hell of an incorrect feeding and a serious amount of overwork to cause a collapse in a healthy horse, have you had a vet check her out following that incident? If not then I would, he/she may want to monitor heart and respiration rates during and after exercise, to check everything is working okay. I would do that before continuing.
 
I have ridden a horse 45 mins walk/trot to lesson, 45 min lesson and the return journey on a similar workload to you, so if you leave enough time for a 15 min break once you get there and a break before you return (and offer haynet and water both breaks) I would think that is fine on your current workload. You could introduce some longer hacks once or twice a week to help.

HOWEVER the collapse would seriously worry me. It would take a hell of an incorrect feeding and a serious amount of overwork to cause a collapse in a healthy horse, have you had a vet check her out following that incident? If not then I would, he/she may want to monitor heart and respiration rates during and after exercise, to check everything is working okay. I would do that before continuing.

Thanks, that's really helpful. Hopefully I'll have either my OH or the horses owner at the lesson venue in a car so I can put a net and a bucket in there for her and well leave plenty of time before and after our lesson.

I'll have a chat with my regular instructor about what happened, afaiaa, she saw it happen and will probably tell me with less drama and overstatements than the horses owner (teenagers!). Blood tests done at the time showed anaemia but nothing else was done as the horse wasn't insured. She's now on full loan to me so no more communication breakdowns, and I've built up her workload slowly, increased her feeds accordingly and added red cell, then replaced it with seaweed, but it also means I can't have vet checks done for her collapsing unless it happens again.
 
Cool, enjoy your lesson :cool: Just to add that I did it without the haynet and water, but now I know better and would rather he wasn't without something in his stomach for that long, and that offering a drink of water is fine :o

If a teenager told you about it, it should be interesting to get the instructor's take on the collapse yes! Here's hoping she just got sweaty and went down for a nice sandy roll ;)
 
Mini rant alert; ignore this. I just wanted to write it down somewhere.
According to my RI, and to other people on the yard who actually saw the incident, the teenager was texting on her phone and had the horse ambling along on a loose lead rope when she tripped. By the time the teenager looked up from her phone, the horse was back on her feet. This is consistent with the mark on her hoof I was concerned about at around that time and the fact that she's dozy with her feet anyway. It happened right outside RIs stable and she watched it happen and told the teenager what happened. (RI was never RI to the teenager though) But she insisted she had collapsed. "went down as if someone had sliced her legs off. She didn't trip or anything!"
If the teenager only knew the amount of stick I fielded on her behalf about letting the horse get into a state where she was prone to collapsing!!! Not to mention the crap I fielded for her about going out on the razz that night, OR the amount of time I've spent worrying about the horse!! Why would you lie about that??? I should have known!

As you may have gathered, I'm rather annoyed with her!

Anyway, RI thinks the horse is more than fit enough for what I've got planned and that I've no reason to worry about her. :-)
 
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