Assisted DIY

I take assisted DIY to mean all bedding and hay/ haylage included but you do all the work! My last yard in Swindon charged £45 a week for this ( hay and straw) and had fab facilities - farm ride, floodlit arena, great hacking and use of horse walker (DIY were charged extra).
 
My thoughts are different to those of Ali27, I think of assisted DIY as possibly including turnout in the morning, possibly a.m. feeding, or possibly access to a grooms services should you need something doing if you can't be there. I wouldn't consider it would include bedding, hay etc. as that has nothing to do with DIY livery :)
 
my yard offers assisted DIY - this tends to include
turnout/bring ins/feeds/rug changing/bring in for farrier/vet etc/occasional muck outs - but they are super helpful at my yard & will do pretty much anything
variety of charges - usually added on to livery bill at end of the month
 
The yard I am on offers assisted DIY livery as a minimum because they like all the horses to be bought in in the winter while it is light. So therefore this includes bring in and rug change, evening feed etc although they will do it the other way round if people prefer eg morning feed turnout etc... They will also bring in for me even if they have turned out if I am running late etc..
 
I pay YO for DIY: facilities, hay/haylage/straw etc, but I employ another livery to assist on a paid-for-job basis. I would reckon if a yard offers assisted they should charge for whatever you need as "extras" on the same basis ie if you wanted horse turning out weekdays, you get charged per day for this as an extra on top of the DIY.

Assisted would suggest to me that the yard would literally assist in doing those tasks you are unable to perform, say, if you started work very early and couldn't turn out. It would depend on the client's particular needs.

ETA I pay £2 for bring in/turn out. Full livery ie bring in, turn out, haynets, water, muck out, poo pick would work out at £8.50/day when I am away.
 
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assisted diy on my yard includes adlib hay and straw. Morning feeding/rug change and turnout, water in fields, hay in fields in winter. Anything can be added to that as an extra whenever needed.

ets an upgrade from assisted to full for a day is £6.
 
It's interesting how different people see this. I would call most of what is described above as part livery. Assisted DIY, to me, means pure DIY but someone on site who will do whatever extras you need at a cost.
 
princess+dude said:
Hi

What is your defination of assisted DIY? What would you expect to pay and what should it include??
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I pay for all feed, bedding etc. Do my horse 100% myself. But if I need assistance for a small fee I can pay for my horse to be:

Turned out
Brought in
Mucked Out
Full livery (if I'm away)

Godsend at my previous yard - and I wouldn't go to a yard that didn't offer it as a service.
 
appylass said:
It's interesting how different people see this. I would call most of what is described above as part livery. Assisted DIY, to me, means pure DIY but someone on site who will do whatever extras you need at a cost.
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Exactly - so much better put than me:D
 
i agree with appylass.

DIY is a stable, grazing and use of schools.

You do all care of horse buy all feed and hay etc....

Assisted is paying for help, turnout every morning in the week as you work early hours.

Bring in one night as you need to work late.

Turnout Saturday morning as you are out Friday night and you know you'll have a hangover!!!!!

This is then charged per service, and added onto the top of your DIY bill at the end of the month.
 
i'm on an assisted livery yard at the moment but when i've rung up about other yards i get told that their DIY is £55pw (on a par with assisted) i think they hear me splutter and then go on to say what you get for that money, it equals part livery.
their part livery is the same as a full livery and their full livery is literally everything.

another place will be DIY and absolutely nothing else, assisted is having someone there if needed and then part livery is inclusive of bedding and hay and turn out.

i think it depends on the area or the person who is offering the livery as to what they regard it as.
 
I pay £32 pw for full DIY on weekends and during the week its DIY but she feeds and turns out in the morning and we do everything else. Hay is provided included in the price and straw is an extra £10 pw on top and then its £5 a day if she has to do things for you if you can't get there.
 
I am on an assisted livery yard, we pay just under £200 per month. This includes....

turn out/bring in
change or rug/rug removed or put on
hang a haynet (pre-made)
feeding
worming (although we must pay for the wormer)
all hay and straw
use of school/fields etc.

we can have horses mucked out if needed at a charge of about £6 per day (i think)
 
I interpret it as the following:

DIY - rent of stable and grazing and use of facilities. Buy own straw, hay, feed, etc and do all work.

Assisted DIY - As DIY but one "service" is done for you each day - either turn out, muck out OR bring in. Option to pay for extra services on top of that as required. May or may not include hay and bedding depending on yard.

Part - Includes everything except exercise, grooming and tack cleaning, includes all feed, hay, bedding.

Full - Includes everything - so much so that the horse would be perfectly happy if you never visited. Wormer, shoes, supplements charged on top of basic rate at cost.
 
To me 'assisted' DIY means same as DIY (you pay for livery and for hay/bedding/feed, etc) and the yard get in, turn out, change rugs, pick out feet, give feeds. You muck out, groom and excerise, etc.
 
appylass said:
It's interesting how different people see this. I would call most of what is described above as part livery. Assisted DIY, to me, means pure DIY but someone on site who will do whatever extras you need at a cost.
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ditto this ^^^

I am on DIY and do everything. However, I can have "add ons" on an irregular basis when I need them, for instance, turn out/get in, feed or muckout etc. partic useful when on holiday or away for the whole day.
 
Assisted DIY on my yard, I pay normal DIY livery, pay for all my own feed, bedding and hay, but there is a YO on site I pay to bring my horse in before I finish work, I can also pay the YO a ‘top up’ so he’s on full livery when I’m working away.
 
I am on 5 day assisted DIY, which means all hay, feed, bedding, t/o, m/o, bring in, feeds and haynets, 5 days a week. Weekends DIY, except haynets and fees.

I've come from DIY and find it really hard, so I bring in every evening, and would gladly muck out too, but as she points out - that's what I'm paying for! (Need to remind myself that my horse doesn't know who mucked him out... I'm still getting used to not doing it all myself!)

I pay £360pcm, which in Surrey is a bargain.
 
I offer this. All clients are on a Diy contract but I have a list of services to include turning out, bringing in, mucking out, poo picking, rug changes etc.

These services are predominately used in the winter months, as with shorter day light hours my clients find it easier just to come up one end of the day, and I cover the other.

The only time it can go 'tits up' is when I have clients who ask for these services 7 days a week - in that case I put them on 'full' livery, as can end up doing all the work but only at assisted prices.

Hope that helps!
 
Thanks guys thats really helped alot! We have recently opened a yard where DIY, assisted DIY, part and full livery is offered and i've had a few debates over peoples definitions xx
 
Assisted DIY doesnt mean feed/bedding included to me. It means assistance to the DIYer so for a small fee for turnout, bring in, muckout etc on the days the DIYer cant.

If might be a regular thing like turnout every weekday morning so DIYer only needs to go to yard in evening to do everything.
 
Toby_Zaphod said:
My thoughts are different to those of Ali27, I think of assisted DIY as possibly including turnout in the morning, possibly a.m. feeding, or possibly access to a grooms services should you need something doing if you can't be there. I wouldn't consider it would include bedding, hay etc. as that has nothing to do with DIY livery :)
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i agree :) it will be like part livery i would have thought!
 
merliebug said:
I am on 5 day assisted DIY, which means all hay, feed, bedding, t/o, m/o, bring in, feeds and haynets, 5 days a week. Weekends DIY, except haynets and fees.

I've come from DIY and find it really hard, so I bring in every evening, and would gladly muck out too, but as she points out - that's what I'm paying for! (Need to remind myself that my horse doesn't know who mucked him out... I'm still getting used to not doing it all myself!)

I pay £360pcm, which in Surrey is a bargain.
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Blimey! To me that is part livery see. It's interesting how many different definitions of livery services there are just in this one thread!
 
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