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im not one to normally judge people straightaway, and i don't know 1/2 the people on here, but the attitudes in some of the posts i have read have shocked me!

fair enough, this is an open forum and you are entitiled to post your veiws and opinions, but reading the post kissmesweet69 had an the 1st page of responses shocked me. if that was me reading them i would be in floods of tears and would be thoroughly considering giving up riding! i have had people say im a s*** rider and i "abuse” horses. (the abuse one was where some lady was watching her daughter ride, and I was in that lesson and I smacked the pony I was riding fairly hard because being a lazy git he would not move! No comment on this please as it was when I was younger (about 4 years ago)) anyway back to what I was saying…

The post that kissmesweet69 posted was quite shocking, I have to admit that, but putting responses that showed no thoughts for somebody’s feelings really did shock me. I’m not going to quote on what people put, nor mention names as I have not read the 4 pages of comments as of yet! But the attitudes people are showing towards others really did shock me.

I haven’t been on this forum long and my first impressions of people were really good and that everybody is really nice, but reading what was in the post, obviously not everybody has the same respect towards other peoples lifestyle and stuff (can’t think of the word) kissmesweet69, may not own that horse and I assume she’s said something to the owner by what I’ve read but tbh just putting comments that have no though into on here as a bit, y’noo off-putting (think that makes sense) those initial reactions that were shown were obviously considered and didn’t have to be posted, but like I said, its and open forum and you are free to write what you like.

The people who commented on that said it was an open forum and they were free to state their opinion, and I have done exactly the same by stating mine.

Thanks if you read this.

My last message is just consider peoples feelings before you blurt out what you wanted to say. I definitely know if I was kkissmesweet69 and read some of the stuff on there I wouldn’t stop crying for hours, how ever people react in different ways.

I’ve said my lot, and that’s as far as I wish to go. Comment if you like, but im going no further on the subject so do not expect a response. However to feel free to PM me if you wish to discuss any matters further.

Lizzie

p.s apologies for such a long post
 
ah, but have you seen that KMS does actually own (I think) 60% of the horse?
I think people have a problem with someone ignoring the advice, whilst saying they are implementing it.
Although I don't think it is necessary to comment on the rider, can you honestly say you would have a horse like that?
 
Lizzie whilst I agree wth you, you do not obv know all the facts

She has been given advce before regardng these horses - advice that has obv fallen on deaf ears - the nice approach hasnt worked, maybe the tough facts will?
 
Well that is initally what I thought, albeit I myself was shocked by the photos, I did keep quiet. However, have you ACTUALLY looked how poor the horse are? I must admit some of the posts are nitpicking.

I'm not Pm'ing you as this as you say is an open forum.
 
I know I said I wasn’t going to post back but I might as well. As I said I don’t know the full story. Okays he owns 60% of the horse so is therefore the one who should be mainly responsible for it. No I wouldn’t keep a horse like and posting something like that on the forum is always going to cause something. But as I did say im only stating what I was thinking.

Lizzie
 
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its not the first post that has been put up from her, and we are a nice bunch but when it comes down to the care and safety of the horse we will make it very clear on what should be done! i think everyone would in that situation, maybe the initial comments came across quite harsh but that hopefully got them to sink in.
 
The written word can be understood in many different ways. I feel that most people were generally shocked by the condition of the horses I know I was. I also think some of the comments were born out of frustration as she has been given advice prior to her posting these pictures.

I know if I had posted a picture of me riding and someone saying that I was riding heavy I would be offended but then I would have more lessons to improve on it.

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i can see im not going to keep up with all these posts. I did put in my original post that I was shocked by the state of the horses, and I fully understand that the condition of them is appalling, however I wasn’t actually stating about the condition of the horses as if I put anything it would wholly cover ½ a page if I did!
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the state of them horses is appalling, but in my opinion so are some of the attitudes shown… truth hurts, I understand that, and sometimes it the only way to get through to people, and yes the comments were harsh and you all had your reasons for posting such things, I was just shocked by attitudes for people. Haven’t read all comments though! This is ppossibly my last post on this. Again, thanks for reading it.
 
i think i was the first to post about the condition of those horses and i stand by my comment.....i do aggree on some of what you have said....but also some posters have been ripped to pieces on this forum for less...but as said, many times before it is an open forum and ......if you cant stand the heat in the kitchen stay out of the forum,,,,,so to speak!!!!!!!
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I also think forums have a tendancy to go up and down in quality - sometimes it is great, other times it just feels like the proverbial [****] gets thrown. Thus is life.
 
Understood!! I speak my mind but I think before I say, normally
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I really do understand the condition of the horses was appalling as I was shocked by it. Like I said it was the responses that shocked me a s well as the original post.
 
Hm havnt read post in question so cannot comment on that specifically BUT have noticed the same thing on so many other posts i've lost count - yes say what you want to say but i have to say some people are just mean about it - there IS a way of saying what you want without upsetting someone in the process! So yes agree with you - some people on here need a lot more tact!
 
I'm afraid as I flicked through the photo's my stomach churned. I felt quite upset for those horses and although I've seen worse in real life, the poster really seemed to be oblivious to the state of them. I think the reaction from everyone was fair enough and yes maybe had we all counted to 20 before posting it may have been slightly different but would the message have got across?!! I doubt it!
 
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Lizzie, i don't usually look at the photos, but was so intrigued by your post that I went looking for the original post. I wish I hadn't, and I really feel for those ponies.

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Me too. Very sad.
 
Pictures gallery, is called “Lets play chase me Charlie”

sojeph? The writing in your signature is very true… “everything written in my posts are 'MY OPINION' only-take it or leave it!!” and I fully agree with it as that is what I have done, stated my opinions, as have most other people. I do not wish for this to become a huge debate as I will feel it will turn against me and will feel awkward making any other posts on here.

Lizzie
 
Have to admit having seen the original post i can see how this all started - and i would comment purely on the poor poor condition of those ponies but i think this is an extreme case so im not surprised by people's reaction - if i'd seen it in real life i would have pulled them off the ponies and ridden them over the jumps
HOWEVER like i said earlier i DO agree that most of the time it is the same - on normal posts i see a lot of things said which could easily have been said in a less insulting or offensive way
 
KMS has posted countless times with pictures of horses in extremely poor condition. Everytime our worries fall on deaf ears and it is sickening.
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P.S Your Pogs are ridiculously cute!
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Nic01, your ps make me chuckle, I read pogs and then about 30 seconds later I realised you meant pigs! Ooopys lol.


But yes I am fully aware of WHY people put what they did, but wasn’t sure why they were posted in that manner or the way things were said. Fair enough if KMS hasn’t listened in the past, but I read on a little further in the posts and she did put that she has listened sometimes or would still be riding in spurs and bottom ring on the gag.

Please don’t shoot me down for this, but I am not on anybodys side! We all have opinions/thoughts/reactions, but we all have hearts, feelings and BRAINS. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that some of them posts were a tad personal. But I do agree that if being kind doesn’t work, maybe being nasty is the ONLY way.

If KMS does make another picture post, I just surgest that everybody CONSTRUCTS what they put instead of just banging out their frustration on the keyboard.
 
I wold say that 99.9% of the posts on this forum are constructive, friendly and helpful. I for one think this forum is worth its weight in gold in terms of advice and support. However, in the thread you mention, I personally feel most people have been pretty restrained. It is distressing to realise that this KMS69 person is totally unwilling to listen to advice that has been previously given out of peoples' caring. We try and help each other, but she is not willing to listen so the main concern now is for the welfare of her horse(s). Those videos were distressing to watch, and a caring and knowledgeable owner/rider wouldn't have ridden like that, let alone posted them on a forum as something to be proud of. I cannot think what you hope to achieve by this thread, this is a remarkable forum with some highly knowledgeable members. BTW, I think you can feel pretty confident that KMS69 won't be in tears. We have been down this road before sadly, and her only concern seems to be that anyone should think she is fat (she is not).
 
I agree with you, but in all fairness people where saying what they thought. Its an open forum, you can say what you think. I am personally a very opinionated person, and I will say what I think - there is no point in excuses, the truth hurts sometimes.
 
Ahh. Okay. The videos wouldn’t work on my computer so I haven’t seen them. I am not wishing to achieve anything by this post other than stating MY opinion. If she doesn’t want to listen then that is her choice, all you can do is try and put your points cross and that’s the best anybody can do. Virtual yelling doesn’t actually achieve anything.

No more posts for me as I’m off out. Will read all when I return…
 
Yes, I agree with you in that there are some people on this forum who could do with a dose of tact. However, in this and other cases where people have in the past made tactful comments and tried to give good, constructive advice it has repeatedly fallen on deaf ears. Therefore they have no option but to put their point across more forcefully.
Some of the comments may seem over the top but they stem from a genuine concern for the welfare of the horses involved and not from a desire to "victimise" the poster.
People should also realise that if you post pictures etc on an open forum then you have to be prepared to get comments you may not like.
 
i too think people were very restrained in there comments, i know i was, alot worse things were going round my head than what i posted, also when the welfare of an animal is concerned im afraid hurting the posters feelings is the least of my concerns
 
I have to say that I have posted a number of times about this girl. I have gone as far as to say that whoever is giving her advice needs to be shot. I am going to PM her then post my PM on here, as I am now worried for the welfare of her horses, especially the dark bay, who looks about ready to drop.

If she was on my yard she would either be off or reported… sorry but I speak as I find.

She is either really naïve, or her head needs to be extracted from her arse.

I have seen a lot on this forum, we have got horses that do all sorts of things, are big small sound and lame. The overwhelming thing is that they all look well and loved. But what I saw today, and keep seeing, is that those ponies are not being looked after like they should be.
 
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if i'd seen it in real life i would have pulled them off the ponies and ridden them over the jumps


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You saying you would of actually got on and ridden them???? Surely any decent horse person would see no one should be sitting on the poor b*ggers until they have got some weight on them and had a full M.O.T

There are attitudes on this forum, and unlike most other forums i dont think things are said on a my opinion is better than anyone elses, which does happen quite alot! We purely want to help these horses in this situation! There are alot of new people to this forum who are gettin too big for their boots and making comments and voicing opinions that fairly deserve to be shot down!

Any one that puts up a topic thats obviously going to get criticism then they have just gotta deal with it! If you dont like it dont put it up, i feel that soo many posts at the moment are being put up with a cry for attention, because theres convo's on here that really dont need to be put on the forum and get bought up time and time again! Ive swayed from the topic a bit and i do apologise, its just becoming stupid!!

Morale of the ramblings - If you cant take the criticism from the post you've put up then dont put it up in the first place!!

J
 
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if i'd seen it in real life i would have pulled them off the ponies and ridden them over the jumps


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You saying you would of actually got on and ridden them???? Surely any decent horse person would see no one should be sitting on the poor b*ggers until they have got some weight on them and had a full M.O.T

There are attitudes on this forum, and unlike most other forums i dont think things are said on a my opinion is better than anyone elses, which does happen quite alot! We purely want to help these horses in this situation! There are alot of new people to this forum who are gettin too big for their boots and making comments and voicing opinions that fairly deserve to be shot down!

Any one that puts up a topic thats obviously going to get criticism then they have just gotta deal with it! If you dont like it dont put it up, i feel that soo many posts at the moment are being put up with a cry for attention, because theres convo's on here that really dont need to be put on the forum and get bought up time and time again! Ive swayed from the topic a bit and i do apologise, its just becoming stupid!!

Morale of the ramblings - If you cant take the criticism from the post you've put up then dont put it up in the first place!!

J

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think she meant she would ride the owners over the jump
 
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