teacups
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Free range status can only be kept for 12weeks even if mandatory.....
I'm sure I read on the DEFRA statement that free range status is maintained if birds are contained by reason of the DEFRA order.
Free range status can only be kept for 12weeks even if mandatory.....
I'm sure I read on the DEFRA statement that free range status is maintained if birds are contained by reason of the DEFRA order.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/avian-flu-prevention-zone-extended
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I think beyond 12 weeks there may be a problem with advertising standards.
ok, so? you seem very focused on this point and I wonder why? would you rather they free ranged at any cost? who cares if the eggs are free range or not in view of a major bird flu pandemic?
You are being ridiculous!
It goes back to my previous post about what's going to happen at the end of February......and also replying to Teacups post.
I think the general public may baulk at paying a premium for free range products when they clearly are not.
Im sure most of the public will understand why! rather than seeing skips full of dead birds being chucked in the incinerators. There is every chance the 12 weeks will be extended it only takes a variation from Brussels and they already have more of a problem over there.
I dont think anybody in their right mind will object to an extension under unprecedented circumstances.
I don't think anyone will object to an extension....but will they pay extra for anything marked free range?
You are being ridiculous!
They will have to think themselves lucky they have any. Have you even thought that the cost of production actually goes up on Free range units if the are housed 24/7 as more labour is needed.
how am I the one being ridiculous? I asked for your POV, why be so rude?
You were asking ridiculous questions in an accusatory stance.
People around me are not doing anything, just carrying on as normal, poultry out during the day and in at night
I take this back, today a group of workmen arrived and there is masses of blue tarpaulin going up to cover the entire chickens and ducks area in a neighbouring property
Free range status can only be kept for 12weeks even if mandatory.
The problem will be, or already is, that for those who are free range, and who are running a commercial enterprise, then production will be falling through the floor and feed costs will be escalating, I'd have thought.
My neighbour advises me that he has adequate insurance to protect him, though I wonder if that insurance is against the loss of his flock through infection, or the loss of sales.
Alec.
Oh, that's interesting and thanks jrp204 and popsdosh. Perhaps it's that as the birds are now kept in they're now warm and so the feed requirements are conversely, less than might have been imagined.
One of my next door neighbour's sites with 24k birds is due to be emptied very soon, and presumably as the replacements were ordered before the scare, he'll be committed to them. He previously had his cull birds taken away for nothing with no exchange of payment. Now I suspect that he will need to pay something for their disposal, even though the go to our fish and chip shops, from what I can make of it!
Would birds which are known to be infected be permitted in to our food chain, does anyone know?
Alec.
Whether the figure of 10k birds is journalistic licence, we won't know because that would probably equate to 250k poults to rear, which is an awful lot, but that said, unless the owner has adequate insurance, it's likely that their entire breeding stock for this year is wiped out in one go and without the said insurance, could well spell bankruptcy. It would also be highly unlikely, I'd have thought, for that many game birds as laying stock to be kept housed as commercial poultry would be.
With the sporadic reports arriving with no apparent link to each other, we have to wonder if this particular virus is far more widespread than we imagine and if it doesn't become a matter which we're going to have to live with, for some while yet. I wonder if in wild birds the infected cases are also only a small percentage of the given population and with infection spreading amongst those birds which are contained, so the concentration of birds is where the problem lays. If I'm right, then the situation has the capacity to worsen, and considerably so. Worrying times for anyone who has large flocks, from the viewpoint of the attendant culling programmes.
Alec.
Its is an accurate figure ! I believe its Hy Fly game( on good authority) and they set .25m pheasant eggs a week in season the biggest game farm in UK .It may cause major issues for shoots next season!