BA to serve Halal only meals !

Any one seen a bull fight in England recently.....? urm.... just how many foxes were killed by "inhumane" methods each day.....? but hunting got banned didnt it?? - suppose we should have said that it was part of being c of e and then we could have got to keep it?

Are we saying that sending kids up children up chimneys, bear bating, cock fighting etc would not have been banned if islam supported them then?
 
eahotson said:
We wouldn't have had a health service if it wasn't for the immigrants who staffed it.At my nursing training school, a few years ago admittedly, we had to recruit foreign nursing students as there weren't enough people of the right calibre locally born to keep our training school open otherwise.The foreign born doctors worked in the inner cities mostly where the nice white middle class Christians didn't want to go.
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What tosh we wondn't have a health service!!!!!! what a stupid inconsiddered
remark....
 
Gingerwitch said:
Gekko - if i were sat reading this post in Australia i would probably have your opinion, but then your government is pretty tough on imigration and so it should be, and certainly stands up for the rights of the Austrialians...the uk unfortunatly is a weak as a kitten with cat flu.
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You do realise that the Australian Govt limits immigration because it only wants to admit people who bring benefit to the economy? They are not doing it to "stand up for the rights of Australians". They don't care what colour or religion immigrants are provided they bring something useful to the country and pay into the system.
 
Gingerwitch said:
Any one seen a bull fight in England recently.....? urm.... just how many foxes were killed by "inhumane" methods each day.....? but hunting got banned didnt it?? - suppose we should have said that it was part of being c of e and then we could have got to keep it?

Are we saying that sending kids up children up chimneys, bear bating, cock fighting etc would not have been banned if islam supported them then?
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This post doesn't even make sense! You have become incoherent in your hysteria.
 
eahotson said:
Who would have staffed it? Fairies?
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^^ This ^^

I also think people forget that the immigrants often do the jobs that the white, British "working class" people refuse to do, preferring instead to spend their lives on benefits claiming there are no jobs out there. Immigrants end up doing the grotty jobs.

I couldn't care less who comes to the UK provided they work, they pay taxes and they contribute to the economy. I'd rather the entire country was full of the dreaded Muslims if they work. Rather them than lazy white British who won't work for a living and expect my taxes to keep them.
 
I am removing myself from this thread - its up to everyone to object to halal and kosher meat being forced on the main stream.... if you dont object - you cant then complain about it can you?
 
The joys of Saturday night in casuality as the drunks were dragged in screaming "I don't want any ******ing P*ki W*nker treating me!" Well, the only reason tha said "F* etc. was there AND treated them was often that no one else wanted to be there.
 
gekko said:
The level of racism, hysteria and paranoia displayed by some idiots here is incredible.
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hopfully your nice new PM and labour goverment will open your countys doors open to anyone!!!!!! and give them every benifit without asking for anything in return... see how you like it!!! its ok for you.... people enter austraila on there merit and as a result your goverment keeps your way of life safe.. we have had destuctive social engineering experiment inficted on us by almost totaly uncontroled immigration by sucsesive labour administrations over the last 50 years... the country is now suffering over population adding to pressure on services and housing shortage and widening the gap between rich and poor...
 
Gingerwitch said:
Can you also tell me why if England is an English speaking country - why do we waste millions of tax payers money on interpreters? why do we print all the government information of how to claim benefits etc in 142 different langauges?
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I know I'm being petty but... there have been some awful examples of spelling and grammar within this thread, usually from the people shouting loudest about foreign folks. :rolleyes: Says it all really, I'm quite embarrassed to be British at times, and not for the reasons you lot seem to think.
 
chestnut cob said:
^^ This ^^

I also think people forget that the immigrants often do the jobs that the white, British "working class" people refuse to do, preferring instead to spend their lives on benefits claiming there are no jobs out there. Immigrants end up doing the grotty jobs.

I couldn't care less who comes to the UK provided they work, they pay taxes and they contribute to the economy. I'd rather the entire country was full of the dreaded Muslims if they work. Rather them than lazy white British who won't work for a living and expect my taxes to keep them.
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Yes I agree very few people object to people who want to work but also fit in and yes sadly our wonderfull welfare state has bred a lazy feral underclass... hopfully the economic downturn and a responsable conservtive goverment will derail the benifits gravy train and then the lazy and feckles will have to work or starve
 
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Perhaps as the number of Muslim people increases, the general morality of the great country which is england will change for the better. At the moment, it seems that the morals of an alley cat prevail.
 
AengusOg said:
Perhaps as the number of Muslim people increases, the general morality of the great country which is england will change for the better. At the moment, it seems that the morals of an alley cat prevail.
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I was actually wondering this the other day after something I saw on TV made me think about it. At the moment we have one of the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe, massive problems with alcohol (particularly) and drugs, high crime rates and a huge sector of society who just do not want to work. Maybe society's morals as a whole will begin to change.
 
yorksG said:
the law allows halal and kosher slaughter for the religeous beliefs of the consumer. Surely if the consumers are not of the religeons which support this form of slaughter, then it is no longer legal?
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:eek: So are Britain's animal slaughter laws different depending on Religious beliefs? If true, that in itself is a disgrace in this day in age. The only legal way to slaughter animals ought to be the most humane way based on scientific evidence, then if anyone has a problem eating it because of something a God/a book/their Mum and Dad told them, they should go veggie or get lost.
 
Gingerwitch said:
All we want is all meat products, supermarkets, airlines, menus especially fast food joints to TELL us the method of slaughter... give us the choice - surely it will help folks whom stricly stick to Halal and Kosher meat too !
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You are out of date. EU MEPs voted on this months ago. It was passed by large majority.
 
This is the saddest and most eye opening thread that I have read on HHO. I am shocked by the levels of ignorance, idiocy, intolerance and islamophobia. The person who was bleating on about EU directives clearly does not understand the particular directive in question or how the EU operates in general.
 
Hello *waves* I am from a ''foreign country'', although I am white. Am I allowed an opinion?
I'll voice it anyway:
I think/believe that Halal (and Kosher) slaughter is wrong and would never eat meat slaughtered in this way. In fact, I refuse to sell my lambs to Muslims alive, I'm happy to supply meat, though - funny enough, they don't want meat :rolleyes:
I would not stand for my own livestock slaughtered in this way, even if Halal abattoir was available locally. As it is, the distance to the nearest Halal abattoir is, in my opinion too great to allow my animals to go there on welfare in transport grounds.

Call me racist or anti-Muslim if you want, but I simply object (be it very strongly) to the slaughter methods on welfare grounds.
 
Gingerwitch said:
Gekko - if i were sat reading this post in Australia i would probably have your opinion, but then your government is pretty tough on imigration and so it should be, and certainly stands up for the rights of the Austrialians...the uk unfortunatly is a weak as a kitten with cat flu.

Do you actually know what the requirements are for immigration in the UK? Thought not. There is a points system, just like other countries (like Canada for example, oh and Australia) and you basically have to have an education (a degree at least in most cases) work experience at a skilled level (minimum wage doesn't get you points), and speak English. You'd be hard pressed to pass the points criteria without those three. We do have freedom of movement within the EU of course - you are just as welcome to go to Spain, Greece, France etc as they are to come here.

Oh we have not had "as a good Christian you should turn the other cheek" quote just yet but then again "an eye for an eye"

Not sure what you are trying to say here, that vengence is a good thing? How terrible, frankly.
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I do find some attitudes bizarre
 
Maybe everyone who objects to halal and kosher should just eat pork and shellfish and have done?

A huge amount of halal meat is served in the UK - the chicken in most pizza restaurants for example, or meat in curries etc. It is the case that non believes can eat Halal (or Kosher) without any real issue (the welfare debate aside), so it makes more sense for a business to be able to cater to more people. It is simple economics.

I do think it makes cost sense, but on the flip side, I can also see why offering a choice of meat (non halal) or veggie would also be acceptable too - and would save on the cost too.
 
blackstar said:
....... The person who was bleating on about EU directives clearly does not understand the particular directive in question or how the EU operates in general.
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Whilst I agree, without question to the first part of your post, "The person who was bleating......", isn't alone. Whilst it's only my view, which will carry little weight, I would tell you that there are very few who actually understand the workings of EU Directives, and that, certainly from the point of view of agriculture, includes those who would administer the pointless "Directives".

Alec.
 
I've been trying to think how to phrase this. I think CHOICE is great, so in theory, I'm all for halal. But what I object to is that I can't go to KFC and get free range, or a takeaway, or even something simple like ready cooked chicken that's free range. I want choice, and labelling so that I can make an informed choice. I would rather eat free range halal meat, than intensively reared meat. So that's the bit I am mad at - why is Halal so widely available but I can't go and pick up a free range cooked chicken? Id anyone knows then please tell me where - ASDA, Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons and Booths don't do them
 
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