BA to serve Halal only meals !

Gekko you have answered all points. The majority of us reading this thread probably understand that to change long term animal husbandry practices, particularly breed standards, takes time and that Australia is heading in the right direction.
 
The problem is the state do not have the Bo**ocks the will or the inclination to stand up to a minority who should have been made to intergrate not assimilate to the beliefs of a CHRISTIAN Country not a Secular multi faith society as our politicticians would have us believe that we live in. halal is a babaric method of slaughter left over from the middle ages.:mad:
 
Hello Hairy Old Cob.

I think someone needs to read all 28 pages of this thread and come back when you have done so. Of course that wasn't your intention - to read and inform yourself - but hey ho. Thread resuscitated, match lit, job done, right? Onward 'Christian' soldier, and perhaps when you have decided to not write in one long sentence, and have come round to the idea of inserting the odd capital at the start of aforementioned sentences, you'll be able to defend England in English.

Hairy Old Cob said:
When I left school I was clever enough to go to Agricultural College "Clever People went to University" Not DROSS with useless o levels and gc`s or whatever qualifications are on offer this week
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Oh, sorry. I stand corrected.

But perhaps... you might start again with the Bible - tolerance and love.

Then you might dare start on the Quran - not the selected five or so oft-repeated mistranslated lines, but the rest of it.

And then you just might abandon the lot, and just love your fellow man, because that is your truest nature. And it hurts to fight it, doesn't it?

To quote a wiser poster than me:

peteralfred said:
I am actually more afraid of Daily Mail readers taking over the country..
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Happy Christmas, Chanukah, Eid, Diwali and December to all.

:)
 
Hairy Old Cob said:
The problem is the state do not have the Bo**ocks the will or the inclination to stand up to a minority who should have been made to intergrate not assimilate to the beliefs of a CHRISTIAN Country not a Secular multi faith society as our politicticians would have us believe that we live in. halal is a babaric method of slaughter left over from the middle ages.:mad:
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Eurgh, I wish people would get over the "Christian country" crap. :mad::rolleyes:
 
Highly illuminating thread, and in between when I looked hard enough, some actual proven facts - but an awful lot of opinion guys with no back up.

This would make interesting reading for most politicians though and gives an excellent insight as to why the BNP are gathering strength. Through the centuries this country has changed many times, even had a major sea change of religion - and then a pretty violent uprising when the would be Charles 3rd (or Bonnie Prince Charlie) tried to take the throne and turn us back into a catholic nation. I question my own strong desire that we retain our english culture as am not sure where the line needs to be drawn - you can't stay stagnant and this country has grown because of immigrants or overrun by invaders.

But there are 2 things which will always raise my blood pressure - one is to bend to the pressure of some external influences when we are not afforded the same tolerance in the home country but more is this culture of 2nd or 3rd generation of people who just live off benefits! I fully support the benefit support system for those who need it and know I am being over simplistic in wishing that the money would go to those who are in geniune need. Best thing this government has done is to shake this up but I HOPE (probably again a little simplistically) that those who need support are not penalised for not understanding the systems..
 
Luci07 said:
Highly illuminating thread, and in between when I looked hard enough, some actual proven facts - but an awful lot of opinion guys with no back up.

This would make interesting reading for most politicians though and gives an excellent insight as to why the BNP are gathering strength. Through the centuries this country has changed many times, even had a major sea change of religion - and then a pretty violent uprising when the would be Charles 3rd (or Bonnie Prince Charlie) tried to take the throne and turn us back into a catholic nation. I question my own strong desire that we retain our english culture as am not sure where the line needs to be drawn - you can't stay stagnant and this country has grown because of immigrants or overrun by invaders.

But there are 2 things which will always raise my blood pressure - one is to bend to the pressure of some external influences when we are not afforded the same tolerance in the home country but more is this culture of 2nd or 3rd generation of people who just live off benefits! I fully support the benefit support system for those who need it and know I am being over simplistic in wishing that the money would go to those who are in geniune need. Best thing this government has done is to shake this up but I HOPE (probably again a little simplistically) that those who need support are not penalised for not understanding the systems..
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I think you are right in what you say. However how it will end is difficult to predict, at the moment it looks to me that alot of the clever practical people just get fed up esp when there is a labour goverment screwing it up and go to pastures new OZ NZ Canada the US etc, we brits have to be pushed very hard to fight so it looks like a slow slide into a very different and poor third world nation to the one we know and love..
 
eahotson said:
I have a lot more faith ib Britain and the British than you then Perfect11s
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I hope you are right however things look fairly bleak esp for the younger generation being able to get on the housing ladder and or a well paid job, the chances of wealth that was created by rising house prices for a lot of ordanary folk seems a distant memory and many are stuck with renting so never building up a asset for their or their kids future. immigration has driven down pay so there is a huge pay gap with some making a fortune and the majortie just getting by...
 
I think there are many problems.Competition from the far East for one and we have moved most of our manufacturing industries out there.People want cheap goods and thats the only way to get them.We have a large number of young people leaving school without basic literacy skills, unsocialized and lacking in both self confidence and self esteem.For instance I have a cleaner part time.She is only young, not particularly good, she slips off early and thinks I don't know about it and I pay her well above the minimum wage.She is English through and through.My biggest gripe with her though is this.She has trained to be a cook.She really wants to cook.She can't get a job oop north. I sugested to her that she goes to London.She would get a job there.Might not be brilliant and she may have to rough it.A couple of years down the line though, she would have experience and could come back up north and do what she wants to do.She hasn't got the confidence, get up and go or what, I don't know.There are of course lots more reasons for things being difficult and Iwill leave that to clevere people than me.Things are still pretty good though here in comparison to a lot of the world.
 
OOOH! Looky,holiday makers in the arab resorts are being chewed on by sharks attracted to the area by all those dead sheep lobbed off the floating Hiltons from Oz and NZ. Now that is indeed justice.:D
 
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