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RebeccaB1609

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Hey there, I'm new to this forum but have read some really good advice on here so hoping you may be able to give me some too.

After riding on and off for years and always wanting my own horse but being scared of the commitment, my ability to go it alone etc I finally decided to try a sharer before committing fully. I found a TBX gelding locally described as a gentle giant and it all seemed perfect so after a couple of conversations I went to meet him yesterday.

He was happy enough to be stroked and I took time to introduce myself etc before we started to tack him up at which point he became really fidgety. Unfortunately someone had messed about with his bridal so it no longer fitted over his head and as he was a big boy and both myself and his owner are reasonably short it was a bit of challenge getting him into it. His owner seemed reluctant to take hold of him and I didn't feel it was my role to do so. Anyway after that his saddle was easy and there were no other issues.

I mounted and we went in to the school. We walked a few laps and changed the reign etc which was fine although he seemed very distracted and I had to keep turning his head in to try and keep him focused. After a few laps we progressed to a trot which was fine for a bit but then he majorly spooked. To the point I nearly came off. We stopped, I steddied myself and spoke to him calmly before trying to walk on. But after that it was just no good he wouldn't settle and kept swinging out or heading back to the gate where his owner was standing. not knowing the horse well and not receiving any advice from the owner I didn't want to be too firm with him and push him back into a trot. Eventually his owner came in and led him around the arena and seemed a bit better. On the way back to the Stables the owner commented to one of the stable hands how he was really playing up and she'd never seen this behaviour before to which the stable hand commented that one of the other hands had ridden him the week before and said he was really spooky. At which point the owner stated that he hadn't been ridden for a little while.

I know horses spook, the one I ride regularly is a real sensitive boy but I trust him completely. I also know that on a first ride trust hasn't been built on either side so I don't want to rule him out straight away but I am concerned. In her own words the owner mother's him and so I wonder whether he has developed some bad habits and a bit of a dependency or whether something more sinister has happened and she is no longer riding him because of it and hoping some one more experienced can calm him down. Whilst not a novice I wouldn't class myself as an experienced rider either and have neither the desire nor the skills to re break a horse or deal with any behavioural issues. We've left it I'll go back next week and spend longer with him before taking him out again but I wonder whether I should ask to take any experience trainer with me to get their opinion?
 

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well. I'm sorry but id avoid like the plague. the fact that she appeared to be reluctant to get his bridle on and they fact that she didn't admit he hadn't been ridden for a while put me off. She obviously can't handle him herself and wants someone else to do it for her. Find something more suitable.
 

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Sharing is built on trust - with the owner. But also with the horse. It is a gut feeling. There is this three way stability that is needed.
Plus a priority is your own safety. For when or if things go wrong, it is the rider/sharer who is held responsible.

It isnt up to you to train someone else's horse not to spook. And definitely follow BHS guidelines for sharing or buying. Never get on a horse till you have watched its owner ride it.
 

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I'm in a sort of similar position of having returned to riding after a long break and looking for a first share. I have lessons every week and it has been helpful to be able to bounce my thoughts off my instructor about sharing - firstly whether it was a good idea for me to even start looking, but also when I've had a couple of experiences that I wasn't sure about. Do you have anyone like this you could either chat to or even take along with you?

One I'd had a funny feeling about before even booking a viewing, my concerns were validated by the expression on my instructor's face when I said where the share was based - the combo of the two things made me decide not to go and view!

I started a thread on here called 'sharing considerations' and got some good tips for things to consider/ask about when looking for a share so maybe check that out - you can use the search function to find it.
 

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Would you have considered buying him if he had been for sale, based on that viewing? If not, why would you consider sharing him?
Really good point. Honest answer is no. And thinking about it nor would I of brought any of my dogs if they had displayed worrying behaviour. The most important thing for me with my animals is an even temperament and good nature.
 

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Do you want to ride it again? Like actually want to, not just that you'd be willing to sit on it, are you thinking about what youd like to do next time with him etc? If not keep looking
Nope. If I'm honest I wouldn't be comfortable getting on it again, just didn't know if I was being a wus and overreacting. But I have never had a ride like that.
 

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I'm in a sort of similar position of having returned to riding after a long break and looking for a first share. I have lessons every week and it has been helpful to be able to bounce my thoughts off my instructor about sharing - firstly whether it was a good idea for me to even start looking, but also when I've had a couple of experiences that I wasn't sure about. Do you have anyone like this you could either chat to or even take along with you?

One I'd had a funny feeling about before even booking a viewing, my concerns were validated by the expression on my instructor's face when I said where the share was based - the combo of the two things made me decide not to go and view!

I started a thread on here called 'sharing considerations' and got some good tips for things to consider/ask about when looking for a share so maybe check that out - you can use the search function to find it.
Thank you so much, that was a really helpful thread for me. Lots of things I hadn't considered. To be honest I was looking at a sharer on the horse I ride regularly and so haven't really done a lot of research as I've ridden him for 2 years so know his temperament and the stables etc but sadly they are now closing and he is being sold on. So now I have to start from scratch with a sharer and stables.
 

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Sad for you but a friend broke her neck trying a horse to buy. It was horrendous some people will try it on because they want their horse gone or in the case of sharing the horse ridden to make it better for them. Best share usually are people who work long hours and are free to the sharer for a couple of days a week because the owner simply wants the horse exercised and cared for to have a little more time to themselves
 

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No, which having never viewed a horse as a sharer I didn't think to question but after I ride it she tried to get someone from the stables to ride it for me to see. That did alarm me, why wouldn't you ride your own horse?!?

Quite, and it would be a very normal thing for people to do, even just on safety grounds. Keep looking :)
 

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The first red flag was the bridle, which indicated that the horse hadn't been ridden recently. The second red flag was that the owner didn't show him ridden before offering you the ride.
Unless you are a professional rider, it's not wise to get on an unknown horse without seeing it worked first. With experience, you can tell whether a horse is in regular work by looking at its condition before you even tack up.
It's not being a wimp to refuse to ride, it's sensible. Stay safe.
 

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The owner not riding him and getting a stable hand to ride him the week before. To me it sounds the owner is scared of him . the minute he started acting up. I would have gotten off I have learned that the hard way as I ended Up with a broken wrist.
 

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I don’t think I’d feel embarrassed asking the owner to ride first if I was an experienced rider, but as a novice I would worry the owner would think I’m scared of horses or something, when in reality I’m quite good with bucks and spooks for my level.
 

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I wouldn't go back it sounds like the horse is not ridden regularly so will be fresh and spooky when you ride, the fact that the owner didn't ride before you would indicate she is scared of the horse and it's not normal practice, if it happens again with a potential share horse I would walk away don't put yourself at risk.
 

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I don’t think I’d feel embarrassed asking the owner to ride first if I was an experienced rider, but as a novice I would worry the owner would think I’m scared of horses or something, when in reality I’m quite good with bucks and spooks for my level.

the experienced rider has learnt that it is unwise to be the first one to get on strange horses. :D best to let the owner get on first and make sure it can keep all 4 feet on the ground. Self preservation is vital. :D

you don't have to worry about the owner thinking you are scared, just word it "I'll let you show me what he can do as he obviously knows you best" A reasonable owner with a genuine horse to loan would expect a potential loanee to watch and learn about their horse.
 
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