Bad name for both horse owners and farriers!

indiat said:
Can you imagine how humiliating it is being turned down by a man while you are shaking your nudey baps in his face?! It must be hard work being a stalker! :D
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oh she was nuts! i dont think she was quite right iykwim? every one ust to joke and say if hubby was ever brave enough to go with her id know because hed come out scared! lol
 
xapplex said:
I find this funny ... My farrier is to do one job only and thats to do my boys feet i dont look at him like that but hey its not just a farrier you get this in all walks of life Mrsdip your hubby must have done it to you as your getting your knickers in a twist
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A little harsh.

People are allowed feelings, and for you to generalise like this, unfair.
 
trottingon said:
Ohhh Starzaan you're back!!!!!! I've such a girly crush on you, I've so missed your posts and my computer will never really recover from all the tea I've spluttered at it whilst peeing myself reading your posts - not literally, well actually sometimes literally but not every time (pelvic floor exercises really do work!!)

Mrs Dip/Troll whatever she calls herself needs to wake up and smell the coffee and take your posts with the frivolity intended - like we all know, you didn't actually do anything wrong, you were just rather vocal on here about a crush you had, and we've all had crushes haven't we? I too cannot abide unfaithfulness in any form by men or women, but I can fully understand how much fun casual flirting can be, and miss the times in my life when I have worked in a more mixed environment when flirting used to be par for the course to some extent on a daily basis (thinks back to twenty years and a few stone lighter ago when I was actually remotely attractive in some men's eyes!!)

If someone is the cheating kind they will cheat, if they are not they won't. End of. Starzaan didn't cheat, the Farrier didn't cheat, so what's the big issue here! There are far more important things in this world that Mrs Troll should be worrying about than this. Methinks she needs to get out more?
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Actually, I think I would argue that me and mine ought to stay IN more!...Having too much fun really.

Lots of love
The Troll xx
 
xapplex said:
I find this funny ... My farrier is to do one job only and thats to do my boys feet i dont look at him like that but hey its not just a farrier you get this in all walks of life Mrsdip your hubby must have done it to you as your getting your knickers in a twist
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I said, many times over, that it's all walks of life...and I've had to repeatedly state that, no, my husband HAS NOT "done it" to me!...It's not me it's ever happened to, thankfully, but it's happened to people (both men and women) who are personal close friends, and also relatives, of mine, and I've witnessed the devastation it can cause.

I dared to speak out and got attacked, called names, accused of having been cheated on, accused of having a husband who somehow must be a bad farrier who doesn't give a toss about the horses (when that's exactly what he does care about), accused of being insecure, accused of being jealous, and so on and so forth...none of which, gives a good impression of the community out there, all by itself, does it?!

You have said that you consider your farrier to be there to do your boys feet and nothing else...and that was MY major point of the issue!...But it seems that most have ignored the fact that a) it is'nt really funny to publicly talk about getting rid of someone's girlfriend/wife- i.e. how would they feel if it was them being talked about like that? and b) farriery is a skilled, and should-be-highly-regarded, profession - it's all about the welfare of the horses and the health of their feet. Period.

And for revealing one or two truths that many a farrier has said to ME personally - I got called a liar, in so many words!

Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also.

And although I completely agree that it's far better that an owner be present when a farrier is attending, there ARE farriers out there who have told me they sometimes breathe a sigh of relief when certain owners AREN'T around, so they can get on with their work and not have to engage in conversation with certain people...but equally, there are owners who are well-liked by the farriers I know...yet no one picks up on the balances I made!

I find it quite telling that the majority of responses on here have been attacking, which in itself, doesn't give a good impression of the community...and that too was a point I was making, originally!...I also find it a little weird that so many have taken my remarks so directly personally...it's ridiculous that people should feel personally attacked - and also an impossibility...I'm left wondering, myself, why so many are quite so touchy, themselves!

May your boys always have good health, and a happy, happy life. Enjoy them!

Regards
Twisted Knickers
 
MrsdipWCF said:
I said, many times over, that it's all walks of life...and I've had to repeatedly state that, no, my husband HAS NOT "done it" to me!...It's not me it's ever happened to, thankfully, but it's happened to people (both men and women) who are personal close friends, and also relatives, of mine, and I've witnessed the devastation it can cause.

I dared to speak out and got attacked, called names, accused of having been cheated on, accused of having a husband who somehow must be a bad farrier who doesn't give a toss about the horses (when that's exactly what he does care about), accused of being insecure, accused of being jealous, and so on and so forth...none of which, gives a good impression of the community out there, all by itself, does it?!

You have said that you consider your farrier to be there to do your boys feet and nothing else...and that was MY major point of the issue!...But it seems that most have ignored the fact that a) it is'nt really funny to publicly talk about getting rid of someone's girlfriend/wife- i.e. how would they feel if it was them being talked about like that? and b) farriery is a skilled, and should-be-highly-regarded, profession - it's all about the welfare of the horses and the health of their feet. Period.

And for revealing one or two truths that many a farrier has said to ME personally - I got called a liar, in so many words!

Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also.

And although I completely agree that it's far better that an owner be present when a farrier is attending, there ARE farriers out there who have told me they sometimes breathe a sigh of relief when certain owners AREN'T around, so they can get on with their work and not have to engage in conversation with certain people...but equally, there are owners who are well-liked by the farriers I know...yet no one picks up on the balances I made!

I find it quite telling that the majority of responses on here have been attacking, which in itself, doesn't give a good impression of the community...and that too was a point I was making, originally!...I also find it a little weird that so many have taken my remarks so directly personally...it's ridiculous that people should feel personally attacked - and also an impossibility...I'm left wondering, myself, why so many are quite so touchy, themselves!

May your boys always have good health, and a happy, happy life. Enjoy them!

Regards
Twisted Knickers
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Superbly put. You stick by your guns.

:D
 
Can I stick my oar in?
I have known many mnay farriers over the last 23 years and all have been total male whores, will sleep with anything that show's interest, wether they themselves have been single/married/in a relationship has been irrelevant. I have also know of farriers that will accept sexual favours in lue of payment!!
 
The_Hooligan said:
Can I stick my oar in?
I have known many mnay farriers over the last 23 years and all have been total male whores, will sleep with anything that show's interest, wether they themselves have been single/married/in a relationship has been irrelevant. I have also know of farriers that will accept sexual favours in lue of payment!!
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Gosh! Well I never.....!
And I'll lay good money that all their wives/girlfriends/partners thought they were paragons of virtue as well.
 
MrsdipWCF said:
I said, many times over, that it's all walks of life...and I've had to repeatedly state that, no, my husband HAS NOT "done it" to me!...It's not me it's ever happened to, thankfully, but it's happened to people (both men and women) who are personal close friends, and also relatives, of mine, and I've witnessed the devastation it can cause.

I dared to speak out and got attacked, called names, accused of having been cheated on, accused of having a husband who somehow must be a bad farrier who doesn't give a toss about the horses (when that's exactly what he does care about), accused of being insecure, accused of being jealous, and so on and so forth...none of which, gives a good impression of the community out there, all by itself, does it?!

You have said that you consider your farrier to be there to do your boys feet and nothing else...and that was MY major point of the issue!...But it seems that most have ignored the fact that a) it is'nt really funny to publicly talk about getting rid of someone's girlfriend/wife- i.e. how would they feel if it was them being talked about like that? and b) farriery is a skilled, and should-be-highly-regarded, profession - it's all about the welfare of the horses and the health of their feet. Period.

And for revealing one or two truths that many a farrier has said to ME personally - I got called a liar, in so many words!

Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also.

And although I completely agree that it's far better that an owner be present when a farrier is attending, there ARE farriers out there who have told me they sometimes breathe a sigh of relief when certain owners AREN'T around, so they can get on with their work and not have to engage in conversation with certain people...but equally, there are owners who are well-liked by the farriers I know...yet no one picks up on the balances I made!

I find it quite telling that the majority of responses on here have been attacking, which in itself, doesn't give a good impression of the community...and that too was a point I was making, originally!...I also find it a little weird that so many have taken my remarks so directly personally...it's ridiculous that people should feel personally attacked - and also an impossibility...I'm left wondering, myself, why so many are quite so touchy, themselves!

May your boys always have good health, and a happy, happy life. Enjoy them!

Regards
Twisted Knickers
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behind you every step of the way hun. i also agree that some of the responses you have had have been downright rude!
 
"A lot of farriers - and I know many, including my hubby - have less than positive or attractive comments to make about their many clients, and most wouldn't "touch a horsey woman with a barge pole"...Whether you want to face it or not, most, if not all, farriers, are in it for the hourly rate!...Money. And most, after a few years, would gladly pack it all in"

The statement giving farriers a bad name on this board is the above comment tbh!

Your husband sounds lovely.. coming home with his less than attractive comments about his customers? Again, as a horse owner I am fairly selective of whom I have tend to my horses feets, backs etc. Therefore, just as a client being a small drop in a big ocean, if I found my farrier making personal comments relating to anything other than my horses feet, then I'd source another farrier! There is normally at least 3/4 different farriers servicing customers on my yard at any given time. Luckily my farrier is incredibly proffesional and has better things to do than go home and make personal, less than attractive comments about his customers to his OH. As for your husband "not touching a horsey woman with a barge pole", Why would that question even enter his head? Maybe he should be focusing on the job in hand rather than the owners of said horses.
 
This did make me laugh! I have to listen to countless conquests my farrier has had over the years(I am not surprised in the least he is divorced)! Rich women, poor women what has gone on in his van is quite amazing all amongst the gas cannister & anvil!!Splinters of metal..yuk!

What makes it worse he is no looker but thinks he is. I just want my horses shod thats all.

I think it takes two! But unfortunately you just have to live and let live and hope its not your other half male or female who is over the side. Anyone can do this farrier or not!

Now where is Arnold?
 
MrsdipWCF said:
I said, many times over, that it's all walks of life...and I've had to repeatedly state that, no, my husband HAS NOT "done it" to me!...It's not me it's ever happened to, thankfully, but it's happened to people (both men and women) who are personal close friends, and also relatives, of mine, and I've witnessed the devastation it can cause.

I dared to speak out and got attacked, called names, accused of having been cheated on, accused of having a husband who somehow must be a bad farrier who doesn't give a toss about the horses (when that's exactly what he does care about), accused of being insecure, accused of being jealous, and so on and so forth...none of which, gives a good impression of the community out there, all by itself, does it?!

You have said that you consider your farrier to be there to do your boys feet and nothing else...and that was MY major point of the issue!...But it seems that most have ignored the fact that a) it is'nt really funny to publicly talk about getting rid of someone's girlfriend/wife- i.e. how would they feel if it was them being talked about like that? and b) farriery is a skilled, and should-be-highly-regarded, profession - it's all about the welfare of the horses and the health of their feet. Period.

And for revealing one or two truths that many a farrier has said to ME personally - I got called a liar, in so many words!

Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also.

And although I completely agree that it's far better that an owner be present when a farrier is attending, there ARE farriers out there who have told me they sometimes breathe a sigh of relief when certain owners AREN'T around, so they can get on with their work and not have to engage in conversation with certain people...but equally, there are owners who are well-liked by the farriers I know...yet no one picks up on the balances I made!

I find it quite telling that the majority of responses on here have been attacking, which in itself, doesn't give a good impression of the community...and that too was a point I was making, originally!...I also find it a little weird that so many have taken my remarks so directly personally...it's ridiculous that people should feel personally attacked - and also an impossibility...I'm left wondering, myself, why so many are quite so touchy, themselves!

May your boys always have good health, and a happy, happy life. Enjoy them!

Regards
Twisted Knickers
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Very well said! Its so nice to see someone whe doesn't run with the crowd and can express herself without being nasty. My compliments to you MrsD:)
 
claireanddylan said:
"A lot of farriers - and I know many, including my hubby - have less than positive or attractive comments to make about their many clients, and most wouldn't "touch a horsey woman with a barge pole"...Whether you want to face it or not, most, if not all, farriers, are in it for the hourly rate!...Money. And most, after a few years, would gladly pack it all in"

The statement giving farriers a bad name on this board is the above comment tbh!

Your husband sounds lovely.. coming home with his less than attractive comments about his customers? Again, as a horse owner I am fairly selective of whom I have tend to my horses feets, backs etc. Therefore, just as a client being a small drop in a big ocean, if I found my farrier making personal comments relating to anything other than my horses feet, then I'd source another farrier! There is normally at least 3/4 different farriers servicing customers on my yard at any given time. Luckily my farrier is incredibly proffesional and has better things to do than go home and make personal, less than attractive comments about his customers to his OH. As for your husband "not touching a horsey woman with a barge pole", Why would that question even enter his head? Maybe he should be focusing on the job in hand rather than the owners of said horses.
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Bloody UNBELIEVEABLE!
My husband does NOT "come home with less than attractive comments about clients" and I DIDN'T say that! I revealed that I know more than enough farriers who DO - my old man was NOT included in that statement...I also did NOT state that MY husband wouldn't "touch a horsey woman ith a barge pole"!!! I SAID that most farriers I know wouldn't! And the ones I know, WOULDN'T! - nothing to do with me, OR my husband!

If you're going to lauch an attack on me, then read what I say, understand it, THEN open fire...that said, once again, another person who is simply saying exactly MY point: that farriers should be there to attend the horses - NOT the owners!

No "question" HAS ever "entered" my husband's "head" because it wasn't ABOUT him!!!...And all he EVER wants to do is focus on the job in hand - THAT'S his pride and joy!
 
MrsdipWCF said:
Bloody UNBELIEVEABLE!
My husband does NOT "come home with less than attractive comments about clients" and I DIDN'T say that! I revealed that I know more than enough farriers who DO - my old man was NOT included in that statement...I also did NOT state that MY husband wouldn't "touch a horsey woman ith a barge pole"!!! I SAID that most farriers I know wouldn't! And the ones I know, WOULDN'T! - nothing to do with me, OR my husband!

If you're going to lauch an attack on me, then read what I say, understand it, THEN open fire...that said, once again, another person who is simply saying exactly MY point: that farriers should be there to attend the horses - NOT the owners!

No "question" HAS ever "entered" my husband's "head" because it wasn't ABOUT him!!!...And all he EVER wants to do is focus on the job in hand - THAT'S his pride and joy!
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The quote you posted: Most farriers...and I know many, including my husband...MEANT that my husband is also a farrier, and nothing more than that! I simply was saying that I know many farriers and that my own husband is included in farriers I know, because he IS one...you then went on to assume that I meant every single farrier I know, including my husband, says horrid things about their clients...and that isn't what I was saying, or meant.
 
I think the title of the posting hit the nail on the head(pun not intended).

It takes two, I have absolutely no interest in my farrier at all..nice bloke.......in fact the sooner he goes is paid the better! End of.

My farrier tells me he picks and chooses his clients? He has a good reputation, the only farrier that is on TIME(spot on) is reliable end of!

Works both ways. Takes two. Not everyone is bad, just a few.
 
"Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also."


ok i know this is off topic, when you say that farriers move on clients they don't like, is this done professionally? as in to the client unfortuantely i will not be able to shoe you horse again you need to find an alternative


or

is this is why they don't turn up, go on holiday and fail to mention that though you are booked on that day hard cheese, fail to reply to your phone calls? when contacted because a horse has gone lame 4 hrs after shoeing, it is found to have nail bind try and charge for a seperate attendance. yes i had this with one, yes i moved on because he was not professional and yes he did ring me back after 3months to find out why i had not rebooked back in with him after the 3rd time he had gone on holiday, (which people have a right to do) but at least let you client know.

reading through these post you seem to make out that we the clients are all ways in the wrong

it takes 2 to tango it also takes 2 people to be professional
 
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indie999 said:
I think the title of the posting hit the nail on the head(pun not intended).

It takes two, I have absolutely no interest in my farrier at all..nice bloke.......in fact the sooner he goes is paid the better! End of.

My farrier tells me he picks and chooses his clients? He has a good reputation, the only farrier that is on TIME(spot on) is reliable end of!

Works both ways. Takes two. Not everyone is bad, just a few.
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Absolutely right! ..My husband also, sort of, 'picks and chooses clients', as in, he's big on punctuality - so clients who are frequently late (and so it causes a knock-on effect for all the other clients during a working day) are very politely 'let go', but my husband will always recommend another good farrier who may well suit them...Now, I hasten to add, before some fool leaps upon my back from behind the forum corners and slates me for saying that, my husband does not NOT give his clients 'breathing space'...that is to say, he's well aware that traffic problems, etc can crop up and cause a client to be late, and he will mostly wait for as long as he dare for them, or re-arrange another date if they are goin to be very late - because it's just not fair to have all the other clients kept waiting for their farrier...He doesn't immediately 'sack' them...it's only habitual lateness he doesn't put up with...and neither, should any client put up with that from a farrier either, I should add!

So, glad to hear you've got yourself a good farrier!
 
While you have a lot of valid points to make your opening statement was a little, shall we say, contentious so don't be annoyed it was picked up on. It DID read in a very negative fashion against all horsey women! Your later posts were far more measured and made better sense.

I shall, however, never look at my farrier in quite the same way again! He is Mr Nice Guy who does try to help out if you are stuck (i.e shoe off unexpectedly etc) I never knew it could be so problematic!
 
My husband is a Naval Officer and you know the saying, " all the nice girls love a sailor" and he doesn;t even like horses lol

most men in uniform get lusted after, men in offices get persued, in fact in all walks of life this sort of thing happens, doesn't make it right but it's a fact of life.

Trust your husband as you would hope he trusts you!
 
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TicTac said:
My husband is a Naval Officer and you know the saying, " all the nice girls love a sailor" and he doesn;t even like horses lol

most men in uniform get lusted after, men in offices get persued, in fact in all walks of life this sort of thing happens, doesn't make it right but it's a fact of life.

Trust your husband as you would hope he trusts you!
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Well said!
 
hollyandivy123 said:
"Just as there are owners who dislike a particular farrier and move on to another, there are just as many farriers who dislike particular owners, and move on from them too! And for that, I was attacked, also."


ok i know this is off topic, when you say that farriers move on clients they don't like, is this done professionally? as in to the client unfortuantely i will not be able to shoe you horse again you need to find an alternative


or

is this is why they don't turn up, go on holiday and fail to mention that though you are booked on that day hard cheese, fail to reply to your phone calls? when contacted because a horse has gone lame 4 hrs after shoeing, it is found to have nail bind try and charge for a seperate attendance. yes i had this with one, yes i moved on because he was not professional and yes he did ring me back after 3months to find out why i had not rebooked back in with him after the 3rd time he had gone on holiday, (which people have a right to do) but at least let you client know.

reading through these post you seem to make out that we the clients are all ways in the wrong

it takes 2 to tango it also takes 2 people to be professional
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What the Hell are holidays?! lol!...I can not believe tht farrier tried to charge you fora separate call out for attending to your lame horse - which he nailbound!...That's outrageous!...My husband wouldn'tdo that...he'd make your horse priority and want to get there asap, he'd also feel terrible about the matter...What a crap farrier that was!...Not returning calls, standing a client up, going off on holiday without advance warning and arranged cover? Bad, bad BAD!

I wasn't saying all clients were in the wrng or to blame...I was saying that some are naff, just as some farriers are naff...But I did make the balance of reality and opinion (yours, mine, theirs, the others) that there are also lovely, trustworthy clients and farriers...either I've not expressed myself well, or a number of folks are totally misreading/misunderstanding me...perhaps the wave-lengths don't always fuse together.

My husband also doesn't charge for lost shoes, but I know farriers who certainly do...I don't agree entirely with that...In my opinion, free lost shoe replacement ought to come under Reason Code: Good Will!

May you always have a good farrier who never nailbinds!
 
Very entertaining thread, full of twists and turns and backtracking..ironically, has anybody yet mentioned the farriers wives who have run off with hubbys' apprentice/colleague? I know of 3 in one county. .We should all, as adults, make healthy choices, have good self esteem and strong boundaries regarding what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

But, sadly, it seems these qualities are very lacking in all walks of life, on all sides. All we can do is make sure we think through carefully and take full responsibility for OUR OWN actions..if everybody did that, affairs would wouldn't be as common and as seemingly 'acceptable' as those that play away,or who target attached people, seem to think it is.
 
Luci07 said:
While you have a lot of valid points to make your opening statement was a little, shall we say, contentious so don't be annoyed it was picked up on. It DID read in a very negative fashion against all horsey women! Your later posts were far more measured and made better sense.

I shall, however, never look at my farrier in quite the same way again! He is Mr Nice Guy who does try to help out if you are stuck (i.e shoe off unexpectedly etc) I never knew it could be so problematic!
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Yes I agree with you - I was raging a bit...but I get passionate about my beliefs...and you and me both will never look at farriers the same way again, let me tell you! This has been an education for me too!

It shouldn't be problematic at all, but it'll never be a perfect world.
 
Good lord is this still rolling?
Have you all got nothing better to do? I've just finished vet wrapping my farrier to a hay bale after chasing him around the barn half naked for 3 hours.........
 
Leah3horses said:
Very entertaining thread, full of twists and turns and backtracking..ironically, has anybody yet mentioned the farriers wives who have run off with hubbys' apprentice/colleague? I know of 3 in one county. .We should all, as adults, make healthy choices, have good self esteem and strong boundaries regarding what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

But, sadly, it seems these qualities are very lacking in all walks of life, on all sides. All we can do is make sure we think through carefully and take full responsibility for OUR OWN actions..if everybody did that, affairs would wouldn't be as common and as seemingly 'acceptable' as those that play away,or who target attached people, seem to think it is.
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You have just said BEAUTIFULLY exactly what I feel!

And yes, farriers wives probably aren't all 'angels' either...It most certainly does encompass everyone, from all walks and all professions.

Sadly though, I think my own convictions will only serve to get me into trouble.

Trouble it is, then :)
 
I'm not about to run off with anyone's Significant Other, but if a farrier is picturesque, I reserve the right to hide in a stable until I have conquered the dreaded Hat Hair to the best of my ability, and to then admire the view from a suitable distance. If he is bantersome, I reserve the right to give as good as I get. Good lord, ogling opportunities are rare in the horse world, you have to take them where you find them! Mind you, I'm still traumatised by the experience I had discreetly ogling a new instructor at the place I used to ride, who was so scenic until he opened his mouth and a Home Counties Graham Norton voice came out:eek: Such a let down:(;):D
 
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OP i can see where you are coming from, but your opening post was a bit aggressive, glad to see you have relaxed a bit and happy to converse in a less 'rottweiller' fashion.
;-)
Yes we all hate affairs but sadly it is the way of the world and can everyone hand on heart honesty say the have never gone out with a man that was attached, i know i did and it was 4 months before i found out he actually had a wife (and i found out as she was in the bed next to my friend in the maternity ward with a new baby boy), yes i promptly kick him into touch and debated telling the wife so she knew what he was up to, but hell she has to put up with him, that is hard enough without the heart ache of finding out he was a complete cad as well.
I have to say my farrier is just an amazing man, super star farrier and a very caring chap, twice last year when i had horses pts he came out and said bye to them and brought me a bottle of cider and ciggies to calm me down.
Also when he turns up he happily cuddles me and my mum, sits and has coffee and tells us about whats happening in his life with gf and kids.
I can say i think he is wonderful and so do friends of mine that have him as a farrier, we do laugh about sex, drinking and all adult stuff you chat about, but as for flirting yes our chat could probably be misconstruded as flirtying but no way is it, it is harmless adult banter
 
Forgot to add along with my farrier worshipping, when i had 2 very ill mares last year, my farrier and vet spent up to 6 hours a day twice a week trying to save the 2 mares and they both agreed between them that they would only charge me for half the time they were there.
Which over the weeks/months they were in the yard was a significant amount of money they deducted for me.
And no it was not because was sleeping with them or anything like that, i supplied coffee.
So just a point that yes my farrier and vet like all professions are in it for money but you know what sometimes it is also for the love of the animal
 
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