Bad news for my lovely boy...

bikerchickone said:
I actually thought I was a pretty good owner, love my horses, always try to do the right thing but I think unless you get a different perspective every so often you can easily become the owner with the big bad but simple problem that just got away from you.
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how true is this I too thought this doing my BHS exams in 1981 thought yeh i should cope with most things notice most things . Many years of experience saw me cope with many ailments and learnt and treated but hands on lami i never got to witness and treat 99% its true I do. But then last year never having laminitis before she went lethargic i thought Asthma = inhaler= airways etc cured. also more food boost her . This I did also a course of ventapulmin. after a while she improved.

This year same thing so repeated what i did. But july lame treated for abscess tendon for weeks until xray showed Lami My beautiful mare who I love more than life itself had lami .

Why the hell did I not know - because learning and reading is not the same as hands on experience with a disease she hadn't stood in the lami stance with legs out etc. I had ridden her out on a hack the wed she went lame sun or over the weekend i was away thurs to sun night
21 1/2 years never had it. now 23 nearly 24. If any idea or someone had been there had said have you thought lami i would have been on it but no visible signs apart from lethargy which she did get with her asthma


She is bright eating well now happy calm sweet loving even though box rested so long.

so far overcome

laminitis acute flare up
rotation
sinking
protein loss
tape worm
abscess
small lami flare up
more rotation
infection of pedal bone.




protein loss seem ok now
been tape wormed
no pulse
no heat on foot
abscess gone
foot growing


xray again today dreading it in case infection worst tho been on antibiotics for a while

I dont listen no anyone saying PTS not fair etc. because the vet say u fight it she is fighting we will fight , and as long as there is breath in my body and my hubby to fund her treatment as she is showing me in her eyes mum i want to live and fight I will .

So really search and search and search you will keep finding more things you can do.
 
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cptrayes said:
bikerchickone the horse I rehabbed barefoot with "incurable" navicular was sound at 3 months, won his class in his National breed championships at a year and hunted with his new owner at 18 months, and has been in full work including jumping for approaching 2 years this spring.

I know it's a devastating diagnosis but your vet is quite likely to be wrong about your horse's future or about him needing 6 months rest. You are already contacting Rockley so I wrote this only to cheer you up a bit.
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Bikerchickone, my ponio was diagnoised with Navic, he came sound 13 weeks later. :) Dont give up there is hope :)
 
soo sorry to hear the news - my first horse was diagnosed with sidebone - we tried all kinds of shoes and farrier treatment - none made it any better some made it worse. Eventually I did alot of research and decided to go barefoot with her - she was immediately improved - unfortunately she has not improved enough to be ridden (you could walk her round the block with the odd trot - it doesnt make her worse but makes me a wonky ridder !).

The key for me was taking her barefoot and providing her with 24/7 turnout and a hardstanding area - their hay and water is on the hardstanding so they are constantly walking onto it and I shut them on there (with big matted field shelter and arena) at night in winter - she keeps her feet trimmed to her own comfortable level - I have the farrier rasp them once or twice a year and they are text book feet !! I did have a barefoot trimmer and she was excellent (slow and no different to a farrier tbh but good) but much easier to do it naturally.

By getting hardstanding area you would take away the need for a trimmer/farrier to make the decision about how his feet should be and he will naturally wear them down to the right level in the right places. hopefully helping his navicular and other issues.

I know this is not always possible but just a thought - my girl couldnt be ridden again due to a sidebone the size of a golfball but fingers crossed that given enough time and the right conditions your boy may come right x

Take the pressure off yourself for a while and think about postponing the saddle, expecially as you may find he changes shape after you have him sorted foot wise - at the moment he will be trying to compensate and building muscles he wouldnt otherwise use. dont cancel saddle "postpone" it.

ps if he cant be ridden barefoot you can use hoofboots for the stony ground ! cheaper too !!
 
Oh just to add one of my liveries has navicular he is now 30 years old. Still going strong.

He has special shoes on she has him on flexijoint and glucosomine and she doesn't trot on hard stony ground.

There is hope :)
 
You need to think outside of the box sometimes... When our old fella was diagnosed with coffin joint arthritis and Nav syndrome, we were told to have his PTS or spend ££££s getting him to paddock ornament status. Once the vets at Newmarket had used up all of the £5k chopping his feet about, he was discharged. Hopping lame and VERY miserable.


This was 9 years ago. Long before barefoot was something other than what ponies were...and Tildren was something that only France had.

We were told not to go down the barefoot route by one of the (then) senior consultants at Rossdales as he had reverse tilt pedal bones and terribly thin soles.

We were devastated.

Then we were recommended Cytek shoes (which along with barefoot is a marmite word) and he went almost completely sound in one shoeing. Over time his heels have grown back and his soles are now thick enough for him to wear roller shoes, and I suspect, go barefoot if we needed to.

So please dont think its the end. Think outside the box your vet has put you both in. Good luck xx
 
Thank you to everyone who's posted, I've only just had the chance to catch up with the thread, and I really appreciate the positive comments from you all.

I've had a chat with YO today and it went better than I thought it would, I was half expecting to be looked at very incredulously and asked if I was really sure I wanted to try something so unusual! Thankfully it was a really good discussion of the pros and cons that left me feeling quite positive and happily reminded of exactly why I like my YO so much! :)

Now all I need to do is get face to face with the vet to broach the subject with him too! He's a great vet though so I'm very hopeful now. :)
 
robthecob said:
How does the trimmer recognise it but not a farrier? My mare lands toe first, I took her shoes off in december and seem to have got the diet under control, she is walking much much better although I do wish we had a little more growth.

My farrier is out later. How can I get him to check we don't have sulcas thrush?
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You often have contracted heels in long term, shod horses and it's common to get a slit in the sulcus - as happened to my Arab.

This gets colonised easily.

Any sensitivity from the hoof pic in that sulcus = infection of some type (bacterial or fungal).
Any holes in the frog where a bug or fungus can hide is likely to be infected too.

The trouble with the term 'thrush' is that you expect to see classic signs...but BF's mean thrush as ANY infection to the hoof. We are obsessed with it and see it when it's not even there
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I imagine farriers are looking for classic signs (smell, white discharge etc) and don't consider anything less to be dangerous. Unfortunately it is more serious that commonly thought:(
 
bikerchickone said:
Thank you to everyone who's posted, I've only just had the chance to catch up with the thread, and I really appreciate the positive comments from you all.

I've had a chat with YO today and it went better than I thought it would, I was half expecting to be looked at very incredulously and asked if I was really sure I wanted to try something so unusual! Thankfully it was a really good discussion of the pros and cons that left me feeling quite positive and happily reminded of exactly why I like my YO so much! :)

Now all I need to do is get face to face with the vet to broach the subject with him too! He's a great vet though so I'm very hopeful now. :)
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I love this article. Just discovered it again.
http://www.quia.com/files/quia/users/medicinehawk/1107-Foundations/paradigm.pdf
 
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