PoppyAnderson
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Almost certainly directed at Oliver Townend. Hope he reads it and understand the force of opinion against him.
Badminton 2023 thread
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LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
Well it makes me cross that the sport I love is bought into disrepute by one person acting in such a manner. Thousands watched those ugly pictures and it raises so many questions for people
lannerch
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Except it wasn’t just one , sadly there were several really tired horses being pushed and several fell or made bad errors because of it , sadly imo this includes the horse that ended up being put down. OT was certainly not the only one .
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
I think you are wrong about Fiona’s horse, he was going well within himself and made an error of judgement at the fence. I hope neither her or any of her friends see your post
neddy man
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Eventing nation .com says the FEI have given a recorded warning to O T regarding his elimination at Badminton.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Keep up, nm 
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Not slacking multitasking
Glad you said it 
oldie48
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Worth reading the EN report though as it says where OT was held so it's clear when he was stopped and which fences were involved ie he was held at f24 and didn't continue.
Kat
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She did the right thing to retire if things didn't feel right but there was something very odd about the way she retired and when she made the decision. Tina Cook was baffled.
I do wonder if her post tells the full story.
He looked full of running and rather the reverse of tired.
Absolutely not a criticism it would have been better if a few more had pulled up.
LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
He had a horrible horse fall last year near the end where he blew through the rebalance and tipped himself up. He is a very strong horse and tips onto his forehand if not careful.
tristar
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ot`s horse did such a lovely test, then to see him clobber that fence was a sickener
Kat
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Ah yes, I remember and Emily got her foot stuck, it looked really nasty.
I wondered if he was getting strong rather than tired or there was a control issue or possibly a soundness issue in the background. But definitely better to be safe than sorry.
teapot
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He's entered for Luhmulen 5* in June
Annagain
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I read her facebook post afterwards. She said he'd never run in ground like that so she didn't know how he'd cope. He started not responding to her aids so even though he didn't look tired to an outsider she knew he was tired. I think if she'd been a few fences from the end she'd have nursed him home but he still had a fair bit of the course to go.
teapot
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Comments from Piggy March's H&H column:
Two things that spring to mind are fitness and wet conditions. We need to make sure our horses are fit enough, but also, are we getting too precious?
I ran at Thoresby on CCI4*-S cross-country day and the ground was wet but very safe. It might not have allowed the speedy run that some might have wanted, but we need to compete in the mud sometimes for horses – and riders, for that matter – to learn how to cope.
It’s horses for courses and we all run when we feel we want to, but I spoke to Ros at Thoresby and she said she didn’t think Walter had ever run in the mud, so she wanted to educate and give him a nice experience in those conditions. How right was she?
Two things that spring to mind are fitness and wet conditions. We need to make sure our horses are fit enough, but also, are we getting too precious?
I ran at Thoresby on CCI4*-S cross-country day and the ground was wet but very safe. It might not have allowed the speedy run that some might have wanted, but we need to compete in the mud sometimes for horses – and riders, for that matter – to learn how to cope.
It’s horses for courses and we all run when we feel we want to, but I spoke to Ros at Thoresby and she said she didn’t think Walter had ever run in the mud, so she wanted to educate and give him a nice experience in those conditions. How right was she?
teapot
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Just to bump this, I've always wondered how that horse would go with a different rider on him...and now he's for sale
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/mollie-summerland-charly-van-ter-heiden-on-the-market-830009
His last run, this year's Luhmuhlen 4* he had a run out/stop and subsequently retired on course too.
Michen
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I’m getting a bit fed up of seeing her whack the horse though (last time in particular).
Michen
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Kunoichi73
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He looks happier already! Go Boggle! 
anguscat
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….he’s looking good! 
AmyMay
Situation normal
So happy to see him home!!!.